About Party Member Kicking...

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Originally Posted by Yllania

I do hold myself to my own standard, youre the one trying to force yours onto me because I didnt kick them immediately. I clarified what I did in the post you just quoted. Since you need it again apparently, I argued, voted no, then left. Stop trying to act like I did absolutely nothing and leave me alone, people like you are part of the problem because you blame others and even the victims and Im so tired of it. "You should have done this and its your fault what happened because you didnt." It is not my responsibility for how others act nor is it anyone elses besides the person who is acting.

I posted the story to say that undeserved kicks happen, and you guys try to use it as a personal attack? Get lost.

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Voting no doesn't matter, as you found out.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Voting no doesn't matter, as you found out.

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Yes it does, because if the other person (other than the instigator and target of the kick) also votes no, then the vote fails.

What else are you going to do? Abstain? Vote yes?

Once the kick has been proposed, voting 'no' is the only input someone has.

They're not at fault for not preventing the situation - and if the other DPS was siding with the tank, their hypothetical attempt to kick the tank would have failed anyway.

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Originally Posted by Cylestea

a druid? we dont have a druid class

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I see. In the german version of the game the pre-class of white mage is called "druide" which in english means druid. I didn't know they were called Conjurer instead.

I've only been kicked once because I had the most unfortunate luck getting into a premade of edgelords RP-ing in Castrum during MSQ roulette and I had all the aggro (healer) all the time and none of the tanks were actually tanking. More or less using DPS combos and not a single CD was popped.

I brought up, "Hey, guess I'm the tank now because I keep all the aggro." Then by Livia, kicked.

It doesn't happen often as the forum community would lead you to believe, but it can happen for the dumbest of reasons. Stories are told for le drama. Then the problem looks bigger than it is.

I've been playing for years and I've never been in a group where someone was kicked for any reason other than being offline or AFK. In the case of underperforming, most people just vote abandon, which has been pretty common lately in Orbonne...

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Voting no doesn't matter, as you found out.

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I did that and left but I see youre going to just keep moving the goalposts to try to blame me so Im not wasting time on you or your buddy anymore. I doubt youre really going to have anything worthwhile to say in the future.

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Originally Posted by JowyAtreides

I tend to just avoid any content that involved someone complaining they got kicked from a party.

They never give the full story.
They're always the victim
They say it happens all the time when in fact it's either only happened once or a complete attention seeking fabrication because as we all know, drama and being offended is trendy.

I would estimate that 99% of all player accounts have probably never experienced being kicked from a party and of that 1%, majority is because of being disconnected too long for the party, followed by being afk/lazy in msq roulette (for example), followed by being disruptive.

So yes, maybe you are lucky, but I reckon if you're at least a regular player who doesn't mouth off when some tiny thing goes wrong or go afk for 5-10 minutes, you'll probably not experience being kicked.

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I would have to say yeah that tends to be the experience I have witnessed myself. There have been times I've practicaly been floored when I havent been vote kicked Currently suck on BLM but I am constantly improving and have never died to the same mech twice. I strive to do the best in every class I level to 70. people can be genuinely patient in this game especially when you apologise for bringing the suck to the party

That's really not it.
When there's a group of 3 premade farming for ucob gear on Swallows compass its not that unusual to kick if they see you greed/need on gear.
It just depends on what content you run and with who.
I mean just notice that everyone here has a different concept on who to kick should say enough that there'snt real standard. Just some that are more pro about kicking someone and less that doesn't bother. I'm on the latter one. You won't see them again and everyone is paying the sub like you do, no point in ruin their game unless they're ruining your. And no being a "noob" its not ruining your game, ofc unless they're i45 at lv53 dungeons.

I've only been kicked once, over not buffing a DRG who was demanding my AST cards. Me being stubborn, I proceeded to place all buffs on the other dps.

Generally I dont kick people. I leave the group if something is bothering me that much.

Believe it or not I have been kicked many of times. No, not saying anything won't stop you from getting kicked either, if you step on the toes (literally) of the wrong person. Generally if there is a vote kick everyone will agree to kick even if they don't know who or why they are getting kicked. That's just how it is, if you think most people actually think about why, or "is this deserved?" they don't.

If someone tries to tell me what to do in-game or armchair me I will aggressively tell them off in chat "I do what I want". If I get kicked I get kicked, I don't care about your feelings. I'll just requeue on my tank and get an instant queue right away. Don't take no poop. :cool: