Masamune LS Alliance

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Originally Posted by Hypnotoad

Defiance pretty much means this in regards to end-game open world content (Dodore for example), not to be confused with grief tactics/douchebaggery or exp/coffer parties (we dun wan no trouble).

Your results may vary, use only as directed.

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She is always so diplomatic :D

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Can't wait....
This is so much better than that Kisses LS.

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

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Can't wait....
This is so much better than that Kisses LS.

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What's a Kisses LS?

You guys must be really bored, where are all the other Gysahl LSs at?

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Originally Posted by Nume

What's a Kisses LS?

You guys must be really bored, where are all the other Gysahl LSs at?

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Bored is correct.
Kisses was an LS with a retarded leader who came on these forums all the time trying to tell people their LS was the greatest thing since sliced bread while bashing everyone else.
We killed the LS.

Really bored now.

I’m sure Perfection will provide plenty of entertainment once we merge over there :D

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Originally Posted by Gonks

I’m sure Perfection will provide plenty of entertainment once we merge over there :D

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Here's to hoping! ^^b

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Originally Posted by Treach

But I see SIX shells signed up for this! Gotta be at least 5 people in each shell thats like 30 people, THATS LIKE HALF NA POPULATION ON SERVERS. I WILL LUMP.

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thats a BS statement... hehe you really need to be more careful on what you said there those linkshell have at least 20+ each i can said for my own linkshell we have around 30-45 members.

Takes offense to shell size....misses joke about small server population....over compensating for something?

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Originally Posted by Lauro

thats a BS statement... hehe you really need to be more careful on what you said there those linkshell have at least 20+ each i can said for my own linkshell we have around 30-45 members.

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How many people have multi shells? Of this 20-45 members how many are active? Can a group of 45 do more then a group of 8?

I can answer a few of these for you.
1. On our server many people are holding multi raid ls and I feel this is happening to many of the lower raid ls who are have problems with active members.
2. As you have pointed out your ls has 30-45 members, that has shown me you can not count or you are not sure how many members are active right now. Most people are coming back only to do the containt that takes less then 24 hours to beat. So the few days after you guys are on Masamune you might have 45 members, but they might also be on other ls to make up the 20+.
3. We have nothing in this game that 8 people alone can not do. No need for these big ls to feed more mouths. You guys must really care about your pro ranking.

Plus Treach's comment was about your server size. It is a know fact you guys had a small server. It is a know fact we had the the the larger population. I have no problem that at first you will lump me as choco food. So actually you where right that it is a BS statement, with still a lot of truth to it.

and Lauro Soto no Vicious member has ever been careful for what they said on any topic to anyone. hehe/troll

As if being careful on the interwebz actually did anything.
Stupid threat is stupid.

We have too many trolls on in the middle of the night.

Bah. Not a troll.
That passive threat really was stupid.

I am a factoid noticer...?

Wow... some people really have nothing better to do... lol

This is the last post I will put up on this topic... (maybe)

To clarify...

1. This ls is a communications channel between ls's that is all.
2. There are no 'rules' within this ls. I am simply the holder and I am happy to pass that to someone else if that is preferred.
3. If the member ls's want to make rules then that is something that would have to be agreed by all the member ls's. It is not planned.
4. It will not be 'used' to any extent at all until after the merge at the earliest. Again their are no plans.
5. It is not meant to stop fun/competition... being in this ls does NOT mean we will take turns claiming dodore with you etc... it doesn't mean we won't either. The point is we have had problems with certain ls's on wutai as I'm sure you have on gysahl. Being camped over at exp camps really? (do you need this?). Personally my own ls is happy to help out any other ls that gets camped over by a douche ls but again this is not an alliance 'rule' as there are none.
6. I do agree that there is not much 'need' for this right now in terms of what game content we have, but the one thing I can see this being useful for post merge is background checks on cross server (Gysahl > Wutai, Wutai > Gysahl) ls applications. Anyways lets hope for some epic Nidhogg type HNM's soon, as opposed to the wimpy repop every 5 minutes NM's we have currently.
7. Drama goes hand in hand with end game... drama will happen regardless of whether this ls exists or not. The only difference I see this ls making in the short term is allowing leaders to argue out points amongst themselves without having less diplomatic ls members generating more drama on forum posts like this.
8. If you want to be in this then be in it, if not then don't. Complaining about it on here really won't achieve much. If you want to shape it then join it and have a say.

Milenya I hope our conversation yesterday clarified both of our misunderstandings? :) Please let me know if you have any more concerns and/or want removing off this list?

I will continue to maintain this list if the current members wish me too, if not I will remove it. If anyone from Gysahl wishes to be added please post and I will talk to you on merge day. I will also update the OP to make sure it reflects the above and does not cause any confusion.

P.s. I do not really react or respond to drama, so please feel free to flame this as you please...
but come on guys you can do better than this you havn't even hurt my feelings yet! :o

What happens when shell A who doesn't have those people with the shell is killing gold coffers and shell B show up because they didn't use the search function and relied on an answer from people who aren't online or afk?

I WILL TELL YOU, THE DRAMAS WILL HAPPEN.

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Originally Posted by dalejohn

To clarify...

1. This ls is a communications channel between ls's that is all.
2. There are no 'rules' within this ls. I am simply the holder and I am happy to pass that to someone else if that is preferred.
3. If the member ls's want to make rules then that is something that would have to be agreed by all the member ls's. It is not planned.
4. It will not be 'used' to any extent at all until after the merge at the earliest. Again their are no plans.
5. It is not meant to stop fun/competition... being in this ls does NOT mean we will take turns claiming dodore with you etc... it doesn't mean we won't either. The point is we have had problems with certain ls's on wutai as I'm sure you have on gysahl. Being camped over at exp camps really? (do you need this?). Personally my own ls is happy to help out any other ls that gets camped over by a douche ls but again this is not an alliance 'rule' as there are none.
6. I do agree that there is not much 'need' for this right now in terms of what game content we have, but the one thing I can see this being useful for post merge is background checks on cross server (Gysahl > Wutai, Wutai > Gysahl) ls applications. Anyways lets hope for some epic Nidhogg type HNM's soon, as opposed to the wimpy repop every 5 minutes NM's we have currently.
7. Drama goes hand in hand with end game... drama will happen regardless of whether this ls exists or not. The only difference I see this ls making in the short term is allowing leaders to argue out points amongst themselves without having less diplomatic ls members generating more drama on forum posts like this.
8. If you want to be in this then be in it, if not then don't. Complaining about it on here really won't achieve much. If you want to shape it then join it and have a say.

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So, to clarify....

Your alliance is one big circle jerk chat channel, with no real power over anyone, for LS leaders to feel important and wave some E-peen?

At least your leaders will have each other to bitch to while we claim your mobs and open your chest.

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Originally Posted by Rowln

So, to clarify....

Your alliance is one big circle jerk chat channel, with no real power over anyone, for LS leaders to feel important and wave some E-peen?

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LOL that made me laugh

This game needs PvP, soon.

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Originally Posted by Technyze

This game needs PvP, soon.

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Yes. Because we would never have the balls to actually K.O people we don't like in real life....Finding them is too much work anyway...better make an alliance so I can have other LS's do it for me.

There is a vast difference between LS's with class and those without. End-Game, Competition, and Class, are not exclusive in themselves.

This is the best haha. I cannot wait for this merge

Treach said it all....

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Originally Posted by Treach

I WILL TELL YOU, THE DRAMAS WILL HAPPEN.

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IM SOO EXCITED!!!

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Originally Posted by OwenLacroix

It may be a real necessity, as I think Masamune will be as big a world as it's namesake sword is long. Starting off in the spirit of diplomacy and fair play is the way to go. .... If we had a United Nations LS, with ambassadors as it where, it could save us all a lot of drama and grief, and help foster a play environment that is FUN (that's what it's about).

I would certainly be interested in representing GilgamesH, as I already have good relations with folks in the other big shells, but am also without question the best looking.

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til you /pose lol or /dance