HoH Emp weapons cost too much

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Likewise, in my first 100 floor clear, I started with below 70. Better yet, our healer in the second clear didn't reach 90/90+ until the higher floors. You absolutely don't need 99/99 to start a full clear run.

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PF disagrees with you /s

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

PF disagrees with you /s

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PF people asks no double classes even in places the LB fill speed is irrelevant. A full run can start from 79/79 with no worries. But you know, pugs are pugs and you see asked 99/99 because the party leader can.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

PF people asks no double classes even in places the LB fill speed is irrelevant. A full run can start from 79/79 with no worries. But you know, pugs are pugs and you see asked 99/99 because the party leader can.

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There's no substitute for experience, so the next best thing you can go for is a high gear level and hope that makes up for it.

They'll nerf it to cost 3 to 5 grips later I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by Doki

They'll nerf it to cost 3 to 5 grips later I'm sure.

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Is the POTD grips needed for the weapon 10 as well? Also who knows if they introduce another weapon tier in to HoH like Padjali and Kinna weapons.

The HoH weapons are kind of pointless unless you want one for glam, there are other weapon routes that are faster.
i360 HoH aether accessories for 40 or so pool would probably have been a better, or more interesting maybe, choice.

I haven't even humored the thought of doing HoH for weapons.

Pagos is like... what? Couple weeks away now? When that hits I can just have all my weapons fully upgraded to what will (probably) be i365 while getting caught up on Hero Aca or playing Splatoon in like an afternoon.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

The HoH weapons are kind of pointless unless you want one for glam, there are other weapon routes that are faster.

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So far, Tsukuyomi requires you being good at it + RNG god's favor to win it (or farm 10 kills), while eureka gives you anemos but i355 and you need quite a farm before get the required level to farm what you need to get them, while HoH…

HoH is just half day of spamming 21-30 to get the requested 10 grips. What's faster than half day for a i365 weapon ?

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Originally Posted by SargentToughie

When that hits I can just have all my weapons fully upgraded to what will (probably) be i365 while getting caught up on Hero Aca or playing Splatoon in like an afternoon.

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You're kind of gambling it stays the same. Keep in mind that the weapons were easy mostly because the actual challenge was upgrading the armor; its about 1/3rd wep and 2/3rd armor if you were upgrading there. Now imagine weapon taking three times as long instead because there is no armor this tier, or just because SE increased elemental exp per level this time around. Or counteracted the fate train.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

So far, Tsukuyomi requires you being good at it + RNG god's favor to win it (or farm 10 kills), while eureka gives you anemos but i355 and you need quite a farm before get the required level to farm what you need to get them, while HoH…

HoH is just half day of spamming 21-30 to get the requested 10 grips. What's faster than half day for a i365 weapon ?

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Tsuku is quicker than half a day if you've got a good group, or get lucky.

Eureka might be a grind to get to Paz but once you're there it pretty much throws i355 weapons at you, plus the next step is out in like 2 weeks or so.

It's just not worth the boring grind IMHO (8-9 hours of 21-30 over and over...) to get a HoH weapon, especially when it's so close to being obsolete already.

If you manage your aether pool it's not too bad, if you got a static for climb to 100 x 5 you can pretty much get almost all weps if you trade in every 20 for handles.

How can it be to expensive if you can have it in less then 10 hours of playing?

For those asking "Why bother with these weapons when Tsukuyumi EX is easy and Pagos is coming out in a couple weeks?"

Remember, HoH only requires clearing the Ruby Sea storyline. You can get a 365 weapon from HoH without even having your first lv70 job. That is who HoH weapons are for, not you.

As for comparing it to PotD, yes PotD only needs 9 grips, but it is easier to farm aetherpool in HoH because of the guaranteed +1/+1, even if you get a group that hates chests.

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Originally Posted by Jeykama

For those asking "Why bother with these weapons when Tsukuyumi EX is easy -.

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*insert Tidus Laugh here*

And yet I still don't see people CLEAR the damn thing, because despite the mechanics being so simple, people consistently fail to do the meteors correctly.

I will agree to this now on the simple fact how much required you need to spam 21-30.

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Originally Posted by Jeykama

For those asking "Why bother with these weapons when Tsukuyumi EX is easy and Pagos is coming out in a couple weeks?"

Remember, HoH only requires clearing the Ruby Sea storyline. You can get a 365 weapon from HoH without even having your first lv70 job. That is who HoH weapons are for, not you.

As for comparing it to PotD, yes PotD only needs 9 grips, but it is easier to farm aetherpool in HoH because of the guaranteed +1/+1, even if you get a group that hates chests.

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I can buy a 350 weapon before I am 70 as well. It is simply not worth the effort unless it is a side effect to gain exp on your 61+ job...
though i wonder will someone be level 70 before 99/99? or least the trick of getting 85 or w/e and buying one of those grip things and keep repeating this off the 31-100 floors..

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I can buy a 350 weapon before I am 70 as well. It is simply not worth the effort unless it is a side effect to gain exp on your 61+ job...

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A 350/360 weapon is not a 365 weapon. You can't buy a 365+ weapon before doing any lv70 content barring just getting carried or layout out the gil for a suit of crafted gear (in which case, this weapon is not really for you, either)
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Whether it's worth the effort, who's to say. Back in HW, the first (bad) advice every sprout was given for fast leveling was to unlock PotD asap and grind it for both xp and a Kinna. It's no different here except that the level range is shorter.
Can you get 10 grips going from minimum level (63ish?) to 70? or even 61-70 on an alt job? Yeah it's not really that long or hard. You just keep your aetherpool at a medium but functional level so you never get dud silver chests and buy grips as you go.

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Originally Posted by Ekimmak

And yet I still don't see people CLEAR the damn thing, because despite the mechanics being so simple, people consistently fail to do the meteors correctly.

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Ah that's too bad. It actually wasn't too hard finding groups when I grinded up my 99 totems (talking about a long tedious grind, ugh) since everyone kinda goes with the Japanese players' strat now (healer float etc.) Hurray unified strat for once.
But people want ilvl for PFs so Tsuku EX isn't something a fresh 70 can just up and do right away for a 365 weapon, not without being carried/money/friends anyway.

1-30 gave me 17 and 21 for weapon and armor. That's three sets of floors, each set being an equivalent of running a dungeon.

At that rate, one will get the weapon long before hitting 70 on the class.

It's about 5h of playing maybe, depending on the parties you find and luck with chests. It's very likely going to be less than that...

Even if the weapon is not top of the line (stat-wise and otherwise), it's very easy to get and is gotten while you get other stuff. A good amount of experience from a decently fast queue regardless of class, potsherds for minion/orchestrion roll/emote and the stuff that can be dropped from the treasure coffers, like Sophias barding etc.