Feedback on patch trailers

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Originally Posted by alimdia

I think trailers should convey all information shown in a live letter, the whole point of a trailer is to generate hype for those who are currently playing and to showcase information to those who aren't, so you wouldn't need to watch the live letter to know what's coming

This is what the older trailers accomplished that the new ones are falling flat at. Without the information we have from the live letter a returning player would have no clue what is being shown.

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Less is more. Why spoil everything the patch has to offer in the trailer? Get people interested and have them discover the content for themselves rather than showing them everything in a trailer like your average American Hollywood movie trailer.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

It's almost like everyone has different preferences. No need to try and make it seem like such a negative. This trailer, to me, feels like a jumbled mess which focuses mainly on the MSQ, which I couldn't give two figs about. I don't tend to follow the live letters, and if this is all I had to go on, I would be quite meh about the whole thing as nothing about it speaks to my interests in game.

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Focusing more on the MSQ makes sense because that's a key selling point of this game. Besides, you don't need the trailer to showcase everything because SE uses other avenues (Lodestone, Patch Website) to display additional information on. Players relying on a single trailer as a main source of information in this day and age is silly.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Less is more. Why spoil everything the patch has to offer in the trailer? Get people interested and have them discover the content for themselves rather than showing them everything in a trailer like your average American Hollywood movie trailer.

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Exactly. Someone gets it.

While I wasn't a huge fan of these shorter trailers when they introduced them in 4.1, I will say that they have improved with each patch. So much so that I actually preferred 4.3 over quite a lot of older trailers. So I think they should keep this style up for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Mysteltain

While I wasn't a huge fan of these shorter trailers when they introduced them in 4.1, I will say that they have improved with each patch. So much so that I actually preferred 4.3 over quite a lot of older trailers. So I think they should keep this style up for the time being.

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This, the 4.3 trailer is amazing.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Less is more. Why spoil everything the patch has to offer in the trailer? Get people interested and have them discover the content for themselves rather than showing them everything in a trailer like your average American Hollywood movie trailer.

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Because not everyone is currently playing the game, having it segmented can lure people back in by showing them content they might be interested in, the current format is such a jumbled mess that someone who missed a patch or two would have no idea of what he's looking at, and the trailer makes sure of that by changing scenes every few seconds

I'm fine with the trailers as they are. A lot of the time in the HW patches there were parts of the trailers dedicated to glamour items and stuff and it kinda takes away from the tone they are going for.

Four mins is fine. Get to the point and give me the important stuff, cut out the fat, give me a tease, that's all I need.

I prefer it this way honestly. I hate going through new content with a checklist in my mind going "Ah, yup, saw that, saw that, and that."

It's sort of like movie trailers that spoil all the funny or important parts of the film before it's even out in theaters. A little sample like this is perfect.

While I think the 4.3 trailer is probably the best so far in Stormblood, I do miss the old trailers that would highlight new gear, glamour, and hairstyles.

Some of us look forward to more than just the "main attractions."

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Because not everyone is currently playing the game, having it segmented can lure people back in by showing them content they might be interested in, the current format is such a jumbled mess that someone who missed a patch or two would have no idea of what he's looking at, and the trailer makes sure of that by changing scenes every few seconds

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Isn't this why they have a dedicated site for every major patch? If someone's been gone from the game for a long time and they want to catch up with what's current or coming soon in a new patch, they probably shouldn't be trying to glean all of that information from a trailer alone even if we still had the old, longer ones.

I feel like I could follow the trailer well enough to tell what was being shown where, knowing what I know about the content already in place and having followed the different quest scenarios, but I have to say that it did feel like it went every direction at once with voice-overs from the msq dominating it, so I can see how some would get confused when certain characters and events don’t show up in certain places.

I kind of miss the old format of trailers showing off everything felt more of a nice teasing preview now it’s just “ok I think I saw a new sword and one? Dungeon?”

Word on the street has it that this is part of SE's new greedy scheme.

Cut everything > less production cost and maximize profit.

Proof for this theory: Freemium app, €150 emotes, mogstation items are character bound (no longer account bound), separated male / female version of armors, outfits of quest lines now locked behind mogstation purchase (mandervile stuff), etc.

Except the production values of the trailer are up.

It's easy to just cut together segments of content. It's not so easy to make a trailer look good, give information, and be quick about it.

They could make a 30 minute trailer showcasing everything, but it wouldn't have high production values just because it's longer...


Also, I'm pretty sure having male and female versions of armor requires more work, not less..... And the Mandeville outfit is npc gear, which has always been on the mogstation. You guys are reaching hard these days.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Except the production values of the trailer are up.

It's easy to just cut together segments of content. It's not so easy to make a trailer look good, give information, and be quick about it.

They could make a 30 minute trailer showcasing everything, but it wouldn't have high production values just because it's longer...


Also, I'm pretty sure having male and female versions of armor requires more work, not less..... And the Mandeville outfit is npc gear, which has always been on the mogstation. You guys are reaching hard these days.

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You really don't understand sarcasm do you?

Well partly, it's no sarcasm about them being greedier.

I enjoyed the 4.3 trailer. However we only get 10% of what was shown on 4.3 patchday. Which makes me anoyed.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

I enjoyed the 4.3 trailer. However we only get 10% of what was shown on 4.3 patchday. Which makes me anoyed.

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Pretty sure they done that as well for the old trailers. They showed stuff not even coming in patch until a few weeks after so makes no difference to me.

I don't know... maybe it's just because I don't need a trailer to show me what I am going to get when I already know what I am going to get? If I want more details I will just go to the patch website or check the patch notes when it releases. I don't think a trailer needs to be 8 minutes long showing every piece of content that will be in the patch. I just see that as a waste of time because at that point is it even a trailer anymore if its getting to the 10 minute mark?

The first time they started showing in trailers things coming in x.xn patches was with 2.5 trailer so ye it is nothing new

That said I like the old style, but I don't mind the new one feels more cinematic in a way

I never said or meant it's something new. I just miss the old 2.x trailers when we got everything in a patch. I very dislike their approach with splitting up their content.

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Originally Posted by Remus

I don't know... maybe it's just because I don't need a trailer to show me what I am going to get when I already know what I am going to get? If I want more details I will just go to the patch website or check the patch notes when it releases.

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Can't please everyone.

Pretty sure they aim these trailers to both current playing customers and people who never played or took a break to show up upcoming features.

I like the old format more. The content are separated, so if I want to see the new hair styles or new recipes, I just forward to that time of the video.

I don't like spoilers, and I think the trailers content a lot of them. In the new format I can't filter the content, It's all mixed. =(

So I started to not seen them anymore.

They changed the format of trailers to be shorter and less like a checklist because there was feedback that they were too long. now they are more like western style trailers, and everything is interwoven. I prefer the new style - the old style was not exciting enough.