turbo controllers the new bot crafting?

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Originally Posted by Kyra

They need to add an Auto captcha that pops up at the begining of every synth. You have 10 seconds to enter it correcty or you get dc from the server and banned for 3 hours.

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No, they need a crafting system that entices the player with a game that requires involvement and at least a minimal amount of skill, not stupid captchas.

wait so if i got an original 360 controller that has no turbo function but put on the button the gum i was chewing at morning cause i like to go on synthesis stance and then just leave the button tapping for overheating reasons is it boting ? lolol if they dont agree/want it they will chance the interface, /end of arguing .

To prevent 'botting' they just need to make it so the way to craft isnt simply 'press enter repeatedly', standard synthesis should move around in the list, meaning a bot couldn't predict where it is in the list, that way even if people botted, they'd loose mats and money, and it wouldn't be beneficial.

lets pretend im yoshi p for a min
how about a factory based crafting system
its far fetched but bear with me

lets say you need a party for your miner u and your friends have to fill a cart or chocobo carriage with ore and stones to level up. this would be the only way to exp miner with a party. the amount of exp you get would be on how fast you could fill the carts. same with bot and fishing. you could also add a farming class.

the driver
a driver class would transport the carriage to and from the party to the factory. fly air ships and transport players from city to city at level 1 you get a chocobo 5 your goobbue 10 a chocobo carriage and so on to magiteck armor and grand co owned airships.

once the driver class reaches the factory then you would need a party on bsm one working the bellows one working the iron and one working the hammer. all 3 would get bsm exp. that way no one could bot.

when you reach say level 10 bsm then your awarded a few recipes that you can make on your own for lil or no exp
same with mining once you worked for so long you earn mining abilities that u can use when you mine for personal use for lil or no exp

ta-dah i solved the botting issue
your welcome!

dosent have to be done this way my point is if you make it party based to exp dol and doh no one could bot. hell make carpenters build houses or what ever or cul make food to feed an army.

content + fun = win

i thought when i voted for drastic changes to the game it would of been more then just dow dom. i dont count making less mats to craft an item a drastic change.

i just thought of an automated system for solo craft and party based crafting and dol for more exp then solo. man SE needs to send me a check lol

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Originally Posted by Halvaard_Vidan

SE could run a simple script that would check on players who craft non stop for more that X amount of time...

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I always thought that was a good idea... if you've crafted for 31 hours straight.... then it's either multiple people... a bot or you're not human....

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Originally Posted by Kyra

They need to add an Auto captcha that pops up at the begining of every synth. You have 10 seconds to enter it correcty or you get dc from the server and banned for 3 hours.

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hahaha F%^& you... I HATE Captcha... I love this game and I am a borderline white knight.. and I would instantly quit if that happened....
First of all.. Captcha blows the big one... second... Its a big middle finger to the people playing with controllers period....

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Originally Posted by Bongeh1986

To prevent 'botting' they just need to make it so the way to craft isnt simply 'press enter repeatedly', standard synthesis should move around in the list, meaning a bot couldn't predict where it is in the list, that way even if people botted, they'd loose mats and money, and it wouldn't be beneficial.

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I disagree... crafting by pressing one button repeatedly while watching a movie.. is that ok?
If, in an effort to hut botters, you hut legitimate players who are really just watching TV while crafting... then you fail.
i like the new system... standard spam for the win!!!!

Captcha's in MMOs I play work fine and only intrude on you if you're doing suspicious activiity and they're generally only 3-4 numbers you have to type within 30 seconds or your action is cancelled.

It's not a system that should be in common place but it's not like captchas that throw in random word + random arabic script and expect you to type it lol.

Dragonball Online has a captcha that is quite fun.
Every so often a box pops up with dragonballs floating around in it and you have to pick the ones that match the captcha.
If you get it correct you get a buff. If you get it incorrect you get a warning. (Up to 3 warnings I think before you are investigated.)

The main problem I have with said system is that people who are simply AFK and like to be in game (like me) are hit with this system and are not there to respond so a lot of legit people get caught up in the mess.

I suppose one way to circumvent that would be to have a player activity check before launching the captcha (if thats possible.)

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Captcha's in MMOs I play work fine and only intrude on you if you're doing suspicious activiity and they're generally only 3-4 numbers you have to type within 30 seconds or your action is cancelled.

It's not a system that should be in common place but it's not like captchas that throw in random word + random arabic script and expect you to type it lol.

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Any reason for me to touch my keyboard is worst idea ever.... I barely talk to people if they aren't in voice chat with me for that same reason... Death to the keyboard

The only non-nerd position to have on this issue is "I don't care what other people do with their time and 15 bucks a month."

Personally I choose to side with the crafting botters and turbo controller users if only to get SE to change how terrible the current system is. I'm not saying go download a botting program and join the resistance, though; that's a security risk and clearly against the rules.

Turbo controllers, though... Hmm... That's a strange one. It's effectively the same whether someone is there or not. The community is pretty split on this one, but it was SE that made the change to make it possible in the first place. There's no real point in banning here. They can just change how it works to require more than a single button. Then they solve the problem and keep the subscriptions. And if it's not a problem and they're fine with leaving this as a fix to a system clearly not designed for play then they can continue to not take a stance. Really, if I had to point my finger at anything that would be it. That's why even upstanding players will use turbo controllers. Threads and posts about turbo controllers keep popping up begging for answers and getting nothing. The best one can figure amidst the cries of foul play and favoring voices is that AFK turbo is fine while botting is not.

Rather interesting...

Also, I'm gonna quote this from another thread just for how wonderfully it describes the problem:

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Originally Posted by MANTASTIC

OP was a bit vague but I assume he's referring specifically to crafting bots? And/or turbo controller users?

Excuse the long post, and look for the bold for the tl;dr.

AFK-crafting in FF14 is a symptom several major problems of the crafting system itself. I'll do my best to explain my opinions on the big ones, starting with:
1) Absurd time invesment requirements. Not only does it take a solid minute or so to complete one item and begin the next, the game demands your attention every 3 seconds like a nagging 4 year old. I always imagine the crafting system to be one of those really annoying jersey shore-types that use the words "bro" and "alpha" unironically.

"Hey bro, how you wanna go about this?"
>Standard
"Ok, good choice bro."
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"So, what will it be this time?"
>Standard
...
"Yo bro, wh-"
>Standard

I believe a system such as this would be serviceable(not anywhere near ideal, mind you) were it not for the...
2) Terrible rate of progression. Now we're cooking with ass. The snail-like pace of the crafting process compounds the abysmal rate of experience points. There is a huge gap between the average and optimal experience point rates between combat classes and crafter classes, but they are are on the same leveling curve!

100,000 experience points may breeze by in an entertaining group activity for my conjurer, but I'll be lucky(or rather, masochistic) if I make that much in 6 hours of straight crafting, especially towards the higher end. My current strategy for getting a craft from 48-50 is saving up leves and mashing them out. And it takes about 50-60 or so to do it.

So we know about how slow the process is, but that wouldn't itself explain why so very many people are tapin' dat x button down on their controllers. Well, there's a few(or more) problems left to discuss, let's continue with...
3) Random occurrences mitigate player decision-making/skill. Ah yes, RNG. FF14's crafting system is completely full of random outcomes at every turn. Any skill not named perfection will only increase the chances of a favorable outcome. An element can still destabilize on a white orb, and an action can still get a no-durability lost success on a red orb. This is further exacerbated by a...

4) Lack of information. An avid crafter who has done hours of research on the vastness of the internet only has a smidgeon of an idea of how the mechanics of crafting work. How is a new player supposed to know what the hell control, craftsmanship, and magic craftsmanship effect? Why are recipe levels kept hidden from players? Not to mention hidden background statistics, most notably "risk." Were it not for skills such as high return, we'd not even know to call it that.

Throw all of the above together, and we reach the final, most damnable aspect of FF14's crafting system:
5) Broken Effort to Reward Ratio. This refers to how putting for the effort to make advancement is rewarded. In a healthy effort to reward ratio, a player who makes larger contributions of skill to the task at hand is awarded proportionately to the act. Think about 14's crafting system with this in mind. The player who invests time into trying to maximize the result of a crating attempt may, at best, hope for an additional 50 or experience points, and a scaling (but always sub-40%?) chance of an HQ product. Now factor the additional time required for this.

So! What does all that mean, and how does it relate to bots and turbo controllers? Ask yourself the following:

"Why should I pay attention to crafting for long, long hours at a time, when mashing on standard synthesis is nearly as effective, and can be done while I do other, more interesting things?"

Truly, a difficult question to answer. I'll leave you with one final thing to roll around in those heads of yours.

The only way to prevent botting is to not design content that encourages it!
A mindless, grindy crafting system will inevitably be "played" by a mindless bot.

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JP side is talking about this full on lol.

One thing I thought it was funny was this:


http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xMI8cq2xL.jpg
http://goo.gl/i4rSv
Click link above for larger image.

Official FFXIV Controller comes with auto button but if you use it in FFXIV you're busted :D

Another thing some people on the JP side is talking is that they are saying if you're also watching TV or doing something else while tapping on the enter key and not paying attention to the game then you're same as a bot, or using these turbo controllers.... which to me is like WTF?? because I come from home, cook dinner feed the kids, then on my free time I watch cartoons/anime with my 4 yr old son while holding the baby in my left arm and crafting = bot. I actually posted this on the JP side and that person told me that I am exact same as those using the turbo button and should get banned for not paying attention to the game LOL, so I responded saying if the crafting wasn't boring crap mini-game like it is now I would pay more attention but with current crappy mini-game that puts you to sleep mode in 5-10 minutes there is no way I'm going to sit and pay attention to every craft to get my crafting level up. Hopefully in 2.0 they make a better mini-game for them and I'll start paying more attention.

I don't see a turbo button anywhere on that. It looks like one turns on/off vibration, another swaps the left analog and pad, and the other is used in conjunction with other buttons to access the function keys on the keyboard. The rest is standard stuff. I didn't see any reviews noting a turbo function.
http://www.snakebyte-usa.com/contain...iv-controller/

As for that guy who told you pressing the button while not looking is the same as turbo... He's either an idiot or pretty smart and trying to work it the other way, because the thing is the effects are the same, yet people are throwing tantrums like turbo with your finger taped on a button and turbo with just the tape on the button are worlds apart.

(In other words, there or not there, the input that goes through is the same.)

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Originally Posted by Soulfire

I don't see a turbo button anywhere on that. It looks like one turns on/off vibration, another swaps the left analog and pad, and the other is used in conjunction with other buttons to access the function keys on the keyboard. The rest is standard stuff. I didn't see any reviews noting a turbo function.
http://www.snakebyte-usa.com/contain...iv-controller/

As for that guy who told you pressing the button while not looking is the same as turbo... He's either an idiot or pretty smart and trying to work it the other way, because the thing is the effects are the same, yet people are throwing tantrums like turbo with your finger taped on a button and turbo with just the tape on the button are worlds apart.

(In other words, there or not there, the input that goes through is the same.)

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oops wrong controller lol, this one w
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xMI8cq2xL.jpg
http://goo.gl/i4rSv

Now that one clearly states Auto :) - changing the other posts image

Someone at SE just facepalmed

dang that black controller is way cooler looking than the white one, but expensive... on japantrendshop i can get for $50+$20 shipping, on amazon I can get the white one for $13 and free shipping on orders $25+

why is the black on $77 and the white one $13??

If you ask me. I think the people who wasted $75 dollars for a bot at MoeToy are just cranky cause people can do it for free now and are capping out all of their crafts.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/...4640559451.gif

This is stupid, how the hell are turbo controllers botting? -_-

I craft with my screen minimized, just jamming my X button, sometimes for more than an hour. Am I a botter just because I'm not boring myself to death looking at the screen?

Maybe if SE make a crafting system that isn't tedious as hell I would be more willing to play it properly.

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Originally Posted by UmJammerSully

This is stupid, how the hell are turbo controllers botting? -_-

I craft with my screen minimized, just jamming my X button, sometimes for more than an hour. Am I a botter just because I'm not boring myself to death looking at the screen?

Maybe if SE make a crafting system that isn't tedious as hell I would be more willing to play it properly.

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The problem right now isn't the botters, because like you say its easy to just hold a controll in your hand mashing a button, you couldn't answer people therefor people will see you as a bot even though your not, the problem is the system right now, SE created it so its possible to do this and untill that changes you can't really blame people for using turbo controlls or hitting a button.

Botters are annoying yes, but if SE created a system that encourages it (with hitting 1 button / Turbo controller) then they need to make a big step in fixing it before you can blame players for taking an easier option.

You are suppose to be looking at the screen crafting +7 lvls higher and trying to use your actions to get your quality up to get the 1-100% exp bonus taking 3-4 minutes per synth to get your 800-1200 exp

But instead getting 300-500 exp in 1.5 minutes spamming x is better.
Either will get you lvled at the same pace put the spamming will use double the mats and shards.
I use standard usb keyboard, the one that came with the mouse I bought together for $20.
Exploit or dont, either way, Get your gosh darn(not sure it I can cuss here) crafts up and make/repair your own gear.

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Originally Posted by UmJammerSully

This is stupid, how the hell are turbo controllers botting? -_-

I craft with my screen minimized, just jamming my X button, sometimes for more than an hour. Am I a botter just because I'm not boring myself to death looking at the screen?

Maybe if SE make a crafting system that isn't tedious as hell I would be more willing to play it properly.

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yes, you are technicaly violating the terms of service and botting

heres a question, you are spamming your turbo control as you say

a GM from the task force investigates you, and sends you messages for an hour straight, none of which you respond to, so he bans you....

how do you explain that? do you really think "i was in another window with my control doing all the work for me" is gonna fly with customer service? or are they going to say too bad.

too bad is the correct answer of course.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

yes, you are technicaly violating the terms of service and botting

heres a question, you are spamming your turbo control as you say

a GM from the task force investigates you, and sends you messages for an hour straight, none of which you respond to, so he bans you....

how do you explain that? do you really think "i was in another window with my control doing all the work for me" is gonna fly with customer service? or are they going to say too bad.

too bad is the correct answer of course.

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The problem is though, under those grounds they cant really punish you because IT IS possible to keep manually pressing a button with the window minimised, therefor theres no proof to say you weren't doing that.

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Originally Posted by Fear

The problem is though, under those grounds they cant really punish you because IT IS possible to keep manually pressing a button with the window minimised, therefor theres no proof to say you weren't doing that.

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but thats where you are wrong

you are doing actions, therefore if you are there, you can respond....

if you are not responding, a program or something other then you is probably running the game, and they CAN and WILL ban you for it
and they have every right to do so, its in the TOS, you know, those things you already agreed to

so there is no discussion about wether or not you can get banned, because you can, thats all there is to it, and there is no defense for it

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

but thats where you are wrong

you are doing actions, therefore if you are there, you can respond....

if you are not responding, a program or something other then you is probably running the game, and they CAN and WILL ban you for it
and they have every right to do so, its in the TOS, you know, those things you already agreed to

so there is no discussion about wether or not you can get banned, because you can, thats all there is to it, and there is no defense for it

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Not going to lie... and maybe... JUST MAYBE I'm wrong... but I'm sensing some major irony here... You've had all 50's since like what? Aug, Sep? and a ton of 50 crafts before then. According to your little lodestone it seems you skipped out on a lot of job traits and bought a lot of stuff all at once... A lot of those 50's were during fatigue era too... You'd have to be unemployed and even then... have quuuuuuiiiiiteee a bit of free time and almost unhuman dedication to get all dem 50's.

You're pretty adamant about defending the TOS. That's good, very good! Bravo! I ain't saying you are a robot, I have no real proof. But compared to Mr. Fear over there... Your character seems awfully suspicious. ._.;

I'm just saiyiin. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Gospel

Not going to lie... and maybe... JUST MAYBE I'm wrong... but I'm sensing some major irony here... You've had all 50's since like what? Aug, Sep? and a ton of 50 crafts before then. According to your little lodestone it seems you skipped out on a lot of job traits and bought a lot of stuff all at once... A lot of those 50's were during fatigue era too... You'd have to be unemployed and even then... have quuuuuuiiiiiteee a bit of free time and almost unhuman dedication to get all dem 50's.

You're pretty adamant about defending the TOS. That's good, very good! Bravo! I ain't saying you are a robot, I have no real proof. But compared to Mr. Fear over there... Your character seems awfully suspicious. ._.;

I'm just saiyiin. :confused:

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im 100% legit, dont worry about that, my friends can all verify it with how annoying i was in linkshell chat about it at all hours of the night when i was on lol(no social life, have a kid, so cant get out alot)

so yes, 8 hours a day easily, took me a bit over a year to get all 50s, thats not unreasonable, if i were botting, i woulda easily had it half a year earlier if not even quicker then that

and anyone who ever walked up to me and spoke to see if i was there, your damn right i responded(except for a few specific people i hate)

You are wrong Gospel. I can vouch for Vedis, he is 100% legit. We all talk to him in Vent while he is crafting as well as in LS chat. Stop accusing him of botting.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im 100% legit, dont worry about that, my friends can all verify it with how annoying i was in linkshell chat about it at all hours of the night when i was on lol(no social life, have a kid, so cant get out alot)

so yes, 8 hours a day easily, took me a bit over a year to get all 50s, thats not unreasonable, if i were botting, i woulda easily had it half a year earlier if not even quicker then that

and anyone who ever walked up to me and spoke to see if i was there, your damn right i responded(except for a few specific people i hate)

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Alrighty, then. I'll take your word for it. Again, wasn't trying to bash. Just find it a tad hard to take someone's advice in a thread about robits, especially when they got all 50's without being a suspicious nancy. Carry on~

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Originally Posted by Gospel

Alrighty, then. I'll take your word for it. Again, wasn't trying to bash. Just find it a tad hard to take someone's advice in a thread about robits, especially when they got all 50's without being a suspicious nancy. Carry on~

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lol, it annoys me knowing people got it cheating when i didnt, honestly, the all 50 thing doesnt mean as much as it did 6 months into the game, at this point its really hard to judge based on levels, but you can judge based on speed of how some things get done

but thats not really the issue at hand for the most part, the issue is botting in general and what is botting

and the simple answer is "any program which plays the game for you, and any device which plays the game without you having to be at your keyboard/computer"

so basicaly, if they suspect the above, you are pretty much screwed if they confirm it(by confirm its as easy as a tell, and you not responding, and im not talking about 1 tell...im talking about them trying to contact you for lets say an hour...over and over...with no response, you cant tell me you wouldnt ban that type of person too, there is no excuse for that

Wow, they really do have turbo on that controller...

http://www.japantrendshop.com/elecom...ad-p-1265.html

If they're allowing the FFXIV name on that then that means it's perfectly fine to mute the game, minimize it, and turbo-craft in the background. And seeing how that's effectively the same as AFK turbo-crafting, that must be fine too.

...And thus people figure.

This one's on SE, not the players. People need to get off their backs for not playing the game after the same tedious manner. Mayhap this is "working as intended."

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Originally Posted by Soulfire

Wow, they really do have turbo on that controller...

http://www.japantrendshop.com/elecom...ad-p-1265.html

If they're allowing the FFXIV name on that then that means it's perfectly fine to mute the game, minimize it, and turbo-craft in the background. And seeing how that's effectively the same as AFK turbo-crafting, that must be fine too.

...And thus people figure.

This one's on SE, not the players. People need to get off their backs for not playing the game after the same tedious manner. Mayhap this is "working as intended."

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you cant make that an excuse for botting, it still doesnt fly


i dont think you understand whats going on

it is ok to use a turbo control

BUT

it is not ok to leave it on while afk

there is a big difference that seperates the 2 and people cant justify botting by stating "se lets us do it"

in the end, the terms of service flat out say you cant do it, and thats the bottom line

A Dev response on this matter would be nice :-)

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Originally Posted by radstar88

A Dev response on this matter would be nice :-)

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they have responded on it several times in the past, its getting a bit stupid that people expect them to respond every time someone makes a new thread on the matter

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Imo it's SE's fault for creating a system that lets you repeat the entire crafting process from start to finish by only pressing one button.

Need to change the UI, so you have to actually look at the screen to confirm something. For example you could make the default selection = cancel instead of accept.

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When we had to do stuff like that, people had a fit. XD

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Originally Posted by Aysun

When we had to do stuff like that, people had a fit. XD

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people are never happy, its too easy, its too hard

give them what they want, and then its all of a sudden not what they want, change it back, and then they want what you took away again

endless cycle of stupidity


people dont know what they want

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

people are never happy, its too easy, its too hard

give them what they want, and then its all of a sudden not what they want, change it back, and then they want what you took away again

endless cycle of stupidity


people dont know what they want

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Well, people complain that it wasn't PERFECT and it might have brought new, unintended consequences (hrm, wonder what that reminds me of...) but people still would feel that it fixed more problems than added. Taking it away just simply is a net negative then and so THEN they complain because they got a net negative (when maybe it needed to be taken away because the new problems made where; hsdjaihgo;weagn iwpu gh....).

It just doesn't end, for devs and players, that's part of the allure of MMOs. The problem is that when you make a bad design choice you don't blame the players for UNANIMOUSLY considering it crap and seeking to circumvent an obvious and clumsy time-sink. What you do is you make changes to address those grievances. In this case, you make a mini-game that people actually desire to play.

Banning players for turbo-controller use will not fix anything, fixing the way we craft will.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you cant make that an excuse for botting, it still doesnt fly


i dont think you understand whats going on

it is ok to use a turbo control

BUT

it is not ok to leave it on while afk

there is a big difference that seperates the 2 and people cant justify botting by stating "se lets us do it"

in the end, the terms of service flat out say you cant do it, and thats the bottom line

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No, they don't. That's the issue.

There are two things that count here, and they would be the rules and policies as listed under SQUARE ENIX Account and FINAL FANTASY XIV.

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FINAL FANTASY® XIV User Agreement
Last Updated: 8/16/2011

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

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At this time there is NO definition of terms regarding botting or automation software. Thus this is far too cryptic, and the fallback is the standard concept that bots and automation software are software programs. This does not include controllers as people view them as hardware.


Ah, here's something better.

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Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV

Activities that destroy game balance
Using third party programs or tools in FINAL FANTASY XIV is strictly prohibited since they allow users to gain an unfair advantage over other players. The use of programs or tools within FINAL FANTASY XIV that allow certain continuous actions to be performed automatically are often referred to as absentee play, which is also prohibited in FINAL FANTASY XIV. Additionally, during the course of an absentee play investigation, players may be requested to respond to or comply with a GMs instruction. Failure to do so is consider a violation and may result in disciplinary action being taken against the account.

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So I don't really get "tools" in terms of computers too well, but I think of that as a program, at minimum being akin to the data parsers that have grown so popular. That's what I'd call a tool. As for controllers, keyboards, and mice, I wouldn't say so. After all, that'd be ridiculous. This game will end up on the PS3. Does a Sony controller fall under this category? "Using third party programs or tools in FINAL FANTASY XIV is strictly prohibited since they allow users to gain an unfair advantage over other players." If you claim a controller is a tool, then yes, and I don't see how they plan on pulling that off without being required to punish everyone not using a Square Enix brand controller. Thus it cannot be termed a tool or program as per the first sentence, and as the second says the use of programs or tools to perform continuous actions is referred to as "absentee play," it cannot be considered "absentee play" either.

And this is why care is usually taken when writing all that lawyer mumbo jumbo.

There is no point arguing the matter further.

I was gunning for a dev response, but what is truly needed is either a revision to the rules and policies and/or a revision to the crafting system.

@soulfire

what the hell do you think "automation software" means

technicaly, thats exactly what your turbo control becomes if you leave it on while you are afk

how can you not understand this?

You need to chill buddy. I was unawares of previous dev responses. Possibly a link to said responses might help?

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Originally Posted by radstar88

You need to chill buddy. I was unawares of previous dev responses. Possibly a link to said responses might help?

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lol, go hunting in the dev tracker, i sure as hell aint looking for it, its been a while

but its common sense, i mean come on, the game is playing itself while you are afk, how is that not just common sense...

All of this doesn't change the fact I mentioned earlier, IT IS still possible to craft with your window minimised MANUALLY by pressing a button every 5-10 seconds, as long as that is possible you can't scream out botter when they could be doing it legally.

No where in the ToS does it say that playing the game minimised with a controll pad (repeatidly hitting a button MANUALLY) is illegal, as it is NOT automation your doing it yourself.

Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV

Activities that destroy game balance
Using third party programs or tools in FINAL FANTASY XIV is strictly prohibited since they allow users to gain an unfair advantage over other players. The use of programs or tools within FINAL FANTASY XIV that allow certain continuous actions to be performed automatically are often referred to as absentee play, which is also prohibited in FINAL FANTASY XIV. Additionally, during the course of an absentee play investigation, players may be requested to respond to or comply with a GMs instruction. Failure to do so is consider a violation and may result in disciplinary action being taken against the account.

imho, if you fail to do this, you will consider BOT no matter you are manual press or auto-press. Tool can be refer to many things. A normal keyboard, normal mouse, normal gamepad and even WINDOW$, these tools wont happen "allow users to gain an unfair advantage over other players."