Let us speculate on when the servers will be back online

March 22nd.

yes, let's move them, if we wait too long, the game will not survive from this

I do not think you guys understand what would be necessary to move an entire server farm from one country to the other. We're trying to move 1... 1 SERVER. 1 SERVER at my office. 1 small little OU Blade less then 20 pounds.

It has been 3 months.

Thank you, Mikita, for clarifying. But what I'm wondering now is... if all electronics are able to use both 50hz and 60hz, then why are they having problems? Can't the server farm housing XIV servers just use 60hz? (Maybe I mixed 50hz and 60hz up)

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I do not think you guys understand what would be necessary to move an entire server farm from one country to the other. We're trying to move 1... 1 SERVER. 1 SERVER at my office. 1 small little OU Blade less then 20 pounds.

It has been 3 months.

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Yeah, and it's not like they can transfer the data using the interwebz since they can't even turn on their servers to begin with.

Let me add to Cairdeas' reasoning:
1) Buy the servers from the server farm owner (I'm 90% sure SE are currently renting the server space, they do not own them)

2) Get the servers out of the building

3) Load servers onto truck/U-haul equivalent

3) Drive them to airport (while making sure they're not damaged during the trip)

4) Wait at airport for several days until a spot opens up (since most air traffic is reserved for getting essential stuff into the country)

5) Fly them over to the US (closest)

6) Get them out of the airport (declare them, go through customs (possibly having to wait a few days)

7) Drive them to new server farm

8) Set it up (days of work)

Did I forget something?

Yeah other ways of doing it like a back up redundancy.

I bet on April 1st SE will post a "Servers back up tonight!" post on their homepage and then follow it up with a "lol j/k" post on April 2nd.

I love FF both 11 and 14. I think it will take at least until Monday if not longer. When they do come back up, I would be willing to pay for 14. I will wait patiently no matter how long it takes.

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

Thank you, Mikita, for clarifying. But what I'm wondering now is... if all electronics are able to use both 50hz and 60hz, then why are they having problems? Can't the server farm housing XIV servers just use 60hz? (Maybe I mixed 50hz and 60hz up)

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I suppose the servers might be able to use 60Hz power, but the problem is:

- The functional power generators in eastern Japan aren't capable of providing enough electricity to make up for the lost power plants.

- There is no real way to send power from western Japan.

So even if the servers can use dual frequencies, there just isn't enough power in the system to keep everything going at 100%.

Um. I hope that makes sense. ><

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

Thank you, Mikita, for clarifying. But what I'm wondering now is... if all electronics are able to use both 50hz and 60hz, then why are they having problems? Can't the server farm housing XIV servers just use 60hz? (Maybe I mixed 50hz and 60hz up)

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As I stated before no it is not possible, the reasoning is that the 50hz system operates mostly on 220v it is the EU standard, the NA standard is 60hz 120v. What Japan needs to do is rework there electrical grid after the crisis is averted. The problem there like the USA is that no one wants to spend the money now until it is to late. Back in the 1970's when it was first told to the US that we needed to rework our electrical grid it would have cost somewhere around 300 million, now to do it it would probably cost in the billions. Even tho it might save Trillions people do not look at it this way.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

As I stated before no it is not possible, the reasoning is that the 50hz system operates mostly on 220v it is the EU standard, the NA standard is 60hz 120v.

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Hi. All of Japan runs on 100V. There is no 220V here and we are slightly lower than the 120V in the US.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

And who'll power them? Poor personnel already tired from dealing with the impacts of the disaster? Or get a few horses and cows to run around in circles around a generator with leashes tied to them?

I'll estimate at least 3-4 weeks before the servers will be put to right again.

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You ofcourse! *cracks whip* get to work you good for nothing man-hamster!

They should switch to geothermal energy, they has volcanoes, so they should utilize that natural source of energy.

What they might look into is power conversion technologies to at least use transformers or other electrical equipment to convert the energy produced from east to west or west to east japan. That is not a fix that can be done in a week or a month it would have to be engineered and planned for but its an idea to help with energy management.

ive been thinking they might keep FFXIV down not to fix it or anything of that sort but to only bring up FFXI to bring some money in and to not use a lot of power. just a thought. even though id gladly pay for XIV in a situation like this. and i know SE will get them back up as soon as they can as the longer its down the more money they lose and the more players that may not come back to XIV when they do come back online

Back on topic of the OP.. I bet somewhere beginning of April but do agree that even then things will not be completely stable.

Isn't Japan run at 110V ?

from what I knew when I purchased some game consoles from Japan

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

Let us speculate on when the servers will be back online

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December 22, 2012.

The power situation in Japan is atrocious, and it's completely understandable that the servers are down until the power problems are resolved.

However, the fact of the matter is that the NA servers shouldn't have been located in Japan to begin with - they should have been located somewhere in NA. The game has enough problems with lag without the extra latency that having to connect halfway across the world causes.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

December 22, 2012.

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Rofl you won this topic for sure! XD Seriously tho guys....eh speculating is ok but it can turn into a headache. Btw, Mar. 22nd is just a evaulation date to see what's gonna happen. In truth the servers could be down for quite sometime, especially if what they're trying to do with the power lines fail or get delayed or whatever. Also even if they could move the servers in a last ditch effort to save their company from financial meltdown, it would still take them months to get things setup and rolling again. In short, we are gonna be waiting for a while no matter how things go. Hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by Kaboushi

next week it's back. Monday.

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NOT! lol SE isnt loosing any money atm with XIV servers down its free to play atm so its actually saving them money, no? only thing they may be loosing is a part of the already low player base that will most definetly find something else to do to pass the time, then decide rather that or coming back when they do decide to kick back up...

The first person to complain about "lack of content" in the 3 months after FFXIV is brought back online, particularly if it is still free to play, should be bundled into a helicopter and dropped into the Sea of Japan. Fat head first.

After what Japan is going through, making content in a computer game is going to be the last on their list of Things to Do.

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Originally Posted by Shikyo

NOT! lol SE isnt loosing any money atm with XIV servers down its free to play atm so its actually saving them money, no? only thing they may be loosing is a part of the already low player base that will most definetly find something else to do to pass the time, then decide rather that or coming back when they do decide to kick back up...

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I think it's likely that they are losing money, though.

Potential buyer of XIV: I want to buy this game *holding copy of XIV in hand*
Gamestop employee: The servers are down, so buy this copy of Rift instead

I don't know how much it would add up to, though. Especially since not many people are buying XIV right now.

@ Elaguila

That would be too cruel ; ; lol

This Sunday or April. At this point, don't bother turning the juice back on till something refreshing or innovative has been put in the game.

The letter VI states that they are in fact at work, but many employees are with their families, or looking for their families, not able to come in etc. I would guess the servers will not come back online until the Nuclear crisis is stabilized. Not fixed, but stabilized.

from that the yoshida said some time in april they doing a few major updates. Least thats what I read. 1.16a + 1.17 some fixes and battle changes.

and rift is a copy cat game of all the Iron relm games mashed together with WoW graphics. I wouldn't bother with it. Don't believe me? go read the starting stories and watch rifts intro.

those mud start you off in reincarnation as does rift. Plus the elemental planar rifts opening up. Sorery too similar of a story for my tastes.

Sorry when a pretty unknown/ uncommon dev team make a "polished first mmo >.> you gotta wonder the sources.

You don't need to bash rift. I'm already logged in here. And we're discussing the inevitable delay of 'our' game.

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

I think it's likely that they are losing money, though.

Potential buyer of XIV: I want to buy this game *holding copy of XIV in hand*
Gamestop employee: The servers are down, so buy this copy of Rift instead

I don't know how much it would add up to, though. Especially since not many people are buying XIV right now.

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everyone knows the state of this game so i doubt ppl were at gstop with a copy of xiv and rift trying to decide lol

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Originally Posted by Shikyo

everyone knows the state of this game so i doubt ppl were at gstop with a copy of xiv and rift trying to decide lol

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I bought both D:<

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Originally Posted by AlmaMalma

The first person to complain about "lack of content" in the 3 months after FFXIV is brought back online, particularly if it is still free to play, should be bundled into a helicopter and dropped into the Sea of Japan. Fat head first.

After what Japan is going through, making content in a computer game is going to be the last on their list of Things to Do.

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if this doesnt interest you why are you reading these threads about a computer game and making coments lmao stuff the bs

The servers coming down has to do with energy conservation. They will be back up when this situation is taken care of and has nothing to do with the tragedy revolving around the development team's personal lives. It does however affect the release of content patches. Which I'm sure the majority of the community finds completely understandable being pushed back, and if you don't, you're going to hell.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

The servers coming down has to do with energy conservation. They will be back up when this situation is taken care of and has nothing to do with the tragedy revolving around the development team's personal lives. It does however affect the release of content patches. Which I'm sure the majority of the community finds completely understandable being pushed back, and if you don't, you're going to hell.

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go over board much? =/ back to the topic though a extra week has been tacked on, so i would guess probably another after that. ppl will no doubt find things to do besides this and i bet alot wont be back so i think it will be a a drop in player base which would suck, and brucey calm the fk down again if ppl dont like the opinions of others on a site that is asking for just that why are you reading these freakin threads and post, ppl need to stop being so fluffy soft.

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Originally Posted by Shikyo

go over board much? =/ back to the topic though a extra week has been tacked on, so i would guess probably another after that. ppl will no doubt find things to do besides this and i bet alot wont be back so i think it will be a a drop in player base which would suck, and brucey calm the fk down again if ppl dont like the opinions of others on a site that is asking for just that why are you reading these freakin threads and post, ppl need to stop being so fluffy soft.

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I do not find anything wrong with my post. I was being direct. I don't know where "calm the fk down" comes into play. I can't even understand what you're trying to say in your overall post anyway. lol

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

Initially I never would have thought that an earthquake could have affected the operations of a server farm, but I should have been more realistic.

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The earthquake didn't affect the servers. The servers are shut down to conserve power since that is what the power campany asked for.

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Originally Posted by Elaguila

I do think it's related. Why would they let SE offices run with electricity, and not let them fire up their servers?


Nope.


Hauling the hard drives from their current location to an airport and flying them out of the country to then set them up in a foreign server farm is expensive and impractical.


The financial sector is bleeding, and they need their businesses to function, or they will be facing a financial meltdown as well, within a few months.

But the temporary substitution is what worries me, as it will take a long time for them to sort that out. Loading a reactor (e.g. one of the reactors that was offline for maintenance) takes weeks.

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So basically, everyone is wrong but you. What else can you tell us oh great and powerful one?

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Originally Posted by Gicker

So basically, everyone is wrong but you. What else can you tell us oh great and powerful one?

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How did you gather that from that post?

Read my other posts. I'm usually pretty humble and open minded.

I was just stating facts.

You confuse me.

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Ok, I scrolled all the way back to page 2 (way stay current btw) and found that post...
I was being polite and answering to 5 people in one post. Not bashing anybody, and in some cases I agree. It's how you keep a discussion going.

Now, let's stop going off-topic. :)

I am going to assume that the servers will not be fired up again until the all clear is given. That is, the Spent Fuel rods are either encased in cement or some how removed. In the mean time the whole area is a hot zone and the focus is on attempting to control that situation. The rest of Japan is on a lock down of sorts until the danger has passed. So given that this is likely to take a week or more longer to bear fruit, I am thinking it might not be for another 2, maybe 4 weeks, before the servers are put back online. Additionally, there's likely to be a few bugs with the restart and this will probably cause another several days delay while the issues are sorted out.

Moving a server like FFXIV is a major pain. If this were a finished black box, or simple website, then yes it would be easy to move. But this is still, for the most part a beta. Thus, I agree with others who would also say, no SE will not move the servers to bring them online any sooner. That is, not unless the move were permanent. Even so, that would also add much time to any relaunch of the servers.

A week, or two? No a month, maybe two. Go outside, get some exercise.
If your not in Japan, be thank-full. No one takes a disaster and goes back to buisness as usual the next day.
Give them time to heal, be respectful.

not for a while I expect another week tacked on as they had discovered radioactive food. And as wel all know from Fall out 3 radio active food is bad.

Let us all hope for one thing. They get the pump system back up and running or some one builds a big enough pipe really fast to supply enough cool water to get these reactors under control. Flying a helicopter over ad doping water everyplace is total hit /mis. In-fact as of today they are talking about venting unit 3 again. Additionally Radioactive Iodine, has been found in Tokyo water supply. This means the lock down will certainly continue another week no less.