New Job idea for 5.0 Necromancer

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Well we do need a new deep dungeon. One that scales up to level 70.

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They have mentioned one (most likely that massive Jenga stack in Ruby Sea), but I'm pretty sure that won't be for quite some time.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

They have mentioned one (most likely that massive Jenga stack in Ruby Sea), but I'm pretty sure that won't be for quite some time.

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I don't think that would be an appropriate place for a dance club. But it could house a grimoire page.

Clearly the next job should be Berserker, as a tank.

You engage a monster, and then presto, can't control your character until it, and all linking monsters, are dead! Full set of actions, none of which you can actively use. Except at Lv. 70, when you unlock "Moment of Clarity", which gives you 5 seconds to use any of your actions and carries a 5 minute cooldown.

The entire storyline would revolve around following a seasoned Berserker who only communicates in grunts and kills everything before you have a chance to do anything. Through your observations of this person, you realize the true futility of strategies and battle practices of new and old, and just allow yourself to succumb to the madness.

8-Member parties of Berserkers clear the entirety of Savage raids on release, resulting in hard nerfs when 5.1 comes out. In the end, it still ends up being the best tank.

I wanna see Necromancer as a job. That'd be cool. Totally want Gun-Blader way more tho.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

I wanna see Necromancer as a job. That'd be cool. Totally want Gun-Blader way more tho.

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Not gonna argue, gun blade is the best weapon. Or at least the most iconic to Final Fantasy. But before we can give it to a class we need to figure out who would use it. And how. Like would the auto attack be a slash or a shot?

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Not gonna argue, gun blade is the best weapon. Or at least the most iconic to Final Fantasy. But before we can give it to a class we need to figure out who would use it. And how. Like would the auto attack be a slash or a shot?

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I believe regardless of what we say, the devs are going to implement it how they want. That said, I believe melee would be the ideal cause I imagine the type of gun that would be attached to such a weapon would be short range and mid range at best. So it would naturally go fit with close combat.

So, I would say the auto would be slash.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

I believe regardless of what we say, the devs are going to implement it how they want. That said, I believe melee would be the ideal cause I imagine the type of gun that would be attached to such a weapon would be short range and mid range at best. So it would naturally go fit with close combat.

So, I would say the auto would be slash.

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Well of course the devs will go with the way they want. Mostly because they know more about the engine and the budget than we do. But if we didn't speculate there wouldn't be anything to do here beside complain :D
I wonder if it is possible to make auto attack a sort of double attack. a slash followed by a shot. Or make it switch based on range.

(And now I'm driving my own thread off topic. Good job, Bali)

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Well of course the devs will go with the way they want. Mostly because they know more about the engine and the budget than we do. But if we didn't speculate there wouldn't be anything to do here beside complain :D
I wonder if it is possible to make auto attack a sort of double attack. a slash followed by a shot. Or make it switch based on range.

(And now I'm driving my own thread off topic. Good job, Bali)

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Wouldn't be hard to make every OTHER auto attack be a shot.

But back to Necromancer, I can totally imagine it as a job that doesn't necessarily need a pet out at all times. I can imagine it as simply having skill animations that brings undead for the duration of the skill. For example, other jobs have skills that binds people in place and shows a circle animation below them. For Necromancer we could simply make a skeleton come out from the ground and hold the person for like 2-4 seconds then decay. Or having a line or cone aoe that just shoots a horde of undead at a certain direction. Maybe even a defense buff that gives u temporary bone armor where ur characters chest is covered by a rib-cage and perhaps even bones of other creatures around ur body.

eventually we'll have every single final fantasy job and they will find some way to fit them.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/157...hida-interview

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Originally Posted by Niraye

eventually we'll have every single final fantasy job and they will find some way to fit them.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/157...hida-interview

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Eh, I highly doubt that would happen. We have ALOT of final fantasy jobs. ALOT. Even FF11 which has been around longer failed to obtain all the jobs.

Wasn't there a necromancer in final fantasy V?

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Wasn't there a necromancer in final fantasy V?

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Yes. There is. Also note that they were not in the original version of FFV.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

Yes. There is. Also note that they were not in the original version of FFV.

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Alright just seeing if I remembered haha.

Probably would be different but would the necromancer be able to summon a dead zombie like summoner and summons or control a monster that died until battle is over.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Alright just seeing if I remembered haha.

Probably would be different but would the necromancer be able to summon a dead zombie like summoner and summons or control a monster that died until battle is over.

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They could. They wouldn't need to. Based off FFV, Necromancers in that game were like blue mages in the respect that they could learn all types of dark magic if they got hit by it. So it could just be a magic caster. But they also had defense equal to a knight so they could turn it into a tank in this game that uses necro magic to defend himself. They also got undead status all the time. The one thing they didn't do in V was let them summon undead.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Alright just seeing if I remembered haha.

Probably would be different but would the necromancer be able to summon a dead zombie like summoner and summons or control a monster that died until battle is over.

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They could but this version of Necromancer would be a healer. We got enough DPS for now.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

We got enough DPS for now.

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No job should be forced into a role because specific roles are needed for queue. Even if every job released from here on out was either a tank or a healer, we would still be in need of tanks or healers because it's the players we need for those roles.

This is also why after Dark Knight and Astrologian came out, it didn't take long before queue times for DPS reverted to their normal times: most people staying on Dark Knight and Astrologian were already playing those roles well before those jobs came out. Same thing happened after Samurai and Red Mage came out.

Making a job concept a tank or healer because you want something different for that role is fine. But in all honesty, if you want a job concept as either a tank or healer because you want a shorter queue, that just gives all the more reason why devs shouldn't allow players to decide what jobs we should have.

Proposed Abbreviation: NCR

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Making a job concept a tank or healer because you want something different for that role is fine. But in all honesty, if you want a job concept as either a tank or healer because you want a shorter queue, that just gives all the more reason why devs shouldn't allow players to decide what jobs we should have.

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All true. However tanks and healers did not get a new job in Stormblood so it is time for their turn. (for the record I main DPS I just like being fair). I'm thinking of healer and tank concepts because they are likely to come next. And I made Necro a healer because i wanted a different healer concept and necro was the name that fitted it the most.

the Dark knight is your dark side in many way even the warrior of light has a dark side to her or himself

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...fd822e4dc7.png

you forget the Weapon for them

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Originally Posted by xygar

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...fd822e4dc7.png

you forget the Weapon for them

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https://i.imgur.com/DKUR9Tk.png

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

https://i.imgur.com/DKUR9Tk.png

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Supposing there were no lore problems with necromancer and it got green lit and only picking up weapons would be left. What would you choose?

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Supposing there were no lore problems with necromancer and it got green lit and only picking up weapons would be left. What would you choose?

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A small curved dagger (1, not dual wield) mainhand and some form of totem offhand

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Supposing there were no lore problems with necromancer and it got green lit and only picking up weapons would be left. What would you choose?

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Well given it's a necromancer, it sorta needs a greatscythe. You know, massive scythe used kinda like a staff? Can look like either a traditional scythe or more like a giant fish hook.

In fact, a caster or healer would probably be the only excusable reason to make a scythe as a weapon given the devs' seemingly strict adherence to real combat styles as far as melee weapons go.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

A small curved dagger (1, not dual wield) mainhand and some form of totem offhand

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This could work too.

I think cool weapon would be staff/sycthe

a staff that has sycthe blade that flips out

i not really for nermancers ii don't think it could work undead are taboo. yet they another way it could necromancer could the force use and aether restore dead to they rest place

nercomancer undead hunters

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Originally Posted by Kyp

A small curved dagger (1, not dual wield) mainhand and some form of totem offhand

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Well they could get a totem or something but they would not be an actual offhand weapon. It seems the devs regret giving combat classes offhand weapons. That's why for example ninja and red mage get their weapons as a set.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Well they could get a totem or something but they would not be an actual offhand weapon. It seems the devs regret giving combat classes offhand weapons. That's why for example ninja and red mage get their weapons as a set.

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Think he meant a visual offhand, not an actual one.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

Think he meant a visual offhand, not an actual one.

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Which could totally work, as I said.