4.1 Patch Notes (Preliminary)

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Originally Posted by Pence

It'd actually make sense if Squadrons were even useful for MSQ...but they're not. It's for dungeons you've already done and out leveled. I kinda expected this to be their Prae/Castrum solution they hinted at for 4.1....

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Finally someone who noticed it, lol

Even assuming a player somehow could grind their way to Second Lieutenant without going level 50+, Wanderer's Palace is the one single dungeon (atleast in the initial wave) you're not gonna be outleveled for, since Second Lieutenant requires a Aurum Vale clear, and Aurum Vale is 47-49

Even then, if the devs feel like they want to ensure people dont "solo" the game through the Adventurer Squadron, a extremely easy solution would be to just require that you already cleared the dungeon before you can run it with your squad

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Originally Posted by Lazaruz

Even then, if the devs feel like they want to ensure people dont "solo" the game through the Adventurer Squadron, a extremely easy solution would be to just require that you already cleared the dungeon before you can run it with your squad

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That's already a requirement....

Edit: I lied. '* Players must have unlocked these dungeons prior to entering on command missions.'

@ Teraluna, it is not like squadrons you will be able to do the latest dungeons as soon as it is introduced.
I find it highly unlikely SE would ever do that. So with that in mind what exactly is the issue??

So...what's the squadron thing even good for? Like I'll ever go back into these dungeons unless I get them on lvl roulette.

Those 14 new emotes tho. <3

Just let Hildibrand end already sheeeesh. Come up with something new and original. It hasn't been entertaining since ARR.

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Originally Posted by Aronys

Those 14 new emotes tho. <3

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I reckon some are related to MSQ, the new achievement system, sidequest and future events. But I fear alot of those emotes are sold via Mog Station or via some mechandise, like a statue.

Quick question as I couldn't find and sorry if someone already posted it.

Does it say we can get Lakshmi and Susano ex mounts with 99 tokens or not yet?

Thanks

I don't like it when people tell me "This is an mmo! It's meant to be played the way I want to play it! If you play it differently than me, then you are wrong!" which is the entire argument here. Just because you do end game raids doesn't mean I shouldn't craft and should only raid, and just because I craft doesn't mean you should be crafting and shouldn't be doing end game raids. The same goes for solo content. Just because you want to run with others doesn't mean I have to run with others. If I wan't to spend some time relaxing alone in some solo content, you shouldn't be forcing me to run things your way. They recognize people play things their own way, and want everyone to have fun, so just let us have our fun.

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Originally Posted by Jib

Quick question as I couldn't find and sorry if someone already posted it.

Does it say we can get Lakshmi and Susano ex mounts with 99 tokens or not yet?

Thanks

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It does not. Those probably won't be added until 4.2 as they usually prefer waiting quite a while since it tends to invalidate said primal.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It does not. Those probably won't be added until 4.2 as they usually prefer waiting quite a while since it tends to invalidate said primal.

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Not sure how being able to buy a mount with 99 tokens invalidates a primal, I don't think there's a single primal I've run 99 times yet (at least not one which gives tokens) and I have a mentor crown by now.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of

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heck I wish we could do more than 5 dungeons with them squads> real people

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Not sure how being able to buy a mount with 99 tokens invalidates a primal, I don't think there's a single primal I've run 99 times yet (at least not one which gives tokens) and I have a mentor crown by now.

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Better catch-up

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLM2rDGV4AEtpxG.jpg

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It does not. Those probably won't be added until 4.2 as they usually prefer waiting quite a while since it tends to invalidate said primal.

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Thats so awful Im tried of runnin Lakshmi, I got susano mount and I have ran her way more times why cant we use the 99 tokens sigh

130 potency ruin 3 /puke

CURRENCY TAB, GUYS.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

Just let Hildibrand end already sheeeesh. Come up with something new and original. It hasn't been entertaining since ARR.

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HECK NO.

HW had the most entertaining story yet. I HAVE HILDY NEEDS.

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Originally Posted by Mirch

oh wow rdm god, rip drg and smn...no more mp for healers, great

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RIP DRG? dafuq?

I'm gonna have a squad of Edda's. <3

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of those isolationist single player survival or shoot-em-up efforts - but this kind of thing is moving it in that direction.

It's bad enough that many of your fellow group players seem to regard even the basic communications of 'hi' and 'thank you' as some kind of penance to be avoided at all costs.

Now we have taken the next step down this self only interaction, with this you and your bots non-mmo grouping.

If they see this as a solution to long queue times for certain classes - it might very well be. But at what cost to the traditional overall mmo culture - which this game used to pride itself in? There are far better ways to handle the queue situation than guiding players to be an isolationist bot controller.

An introduction of a system into a totally inappropriate environment. This is an mmorpg - not Many Player Run Bots Online

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Originally Posted by Mature

Are you just here to moan over meaningless stuff? Be GRATEFUL that at least we are getting extra content. Plus you don't have to do it if you don't want to or like it. What's the problem behind it or in theory you just moaning for the sake of moaning? Please get over yourself and be happy.

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Actually I do understand where both of you are coming from, since I have played EverQuest and EverQuest2 for some time since they introduced Mercenaries.

Unlike FF14, in EQ & EQ2, you can make entire boxed parties easily enough. Here, not so much. And many feel that boxes have ruined the social aspect of EQ & EQ2 since a person can essentially play with themselves.

Now, in regard to FF14, this game is way different in many regards. I want to see how the mercenaries work before I make a judgement (though if regular NPCs in duties and battles are any indication ... ugh. Swear they are dumb as bricks) ...

For myself, I see it as a way to help my sister get back into the game. She hasn't played in over a year, and picked up Marauder again. Just starting her first dungeon. So with her as Tank, my husband as Healer, and me as a DPS, we can bring on a Squadron DPS to round things out. Mainly so we don't have some random being a jerk as my sister relearns things, cause she isn't going fast enough.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Actually I do understand where both of you are coming from, since I have played EverQuest and EverQuest2 for some time since they introduced Mercenaries.

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and plus to add u still have to do ur dailies with real people can we have something we can do on our own geez some people not u btw haha

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Actually .

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The thing that they're missing is the fact these Squadron dungeons are not replacing anything. Its just 5 dungeons that mean nothing and its JUST for you to do more things with your squadron with some rewards unique to it. They hyperbolised the living heck out of the content thats not even out yet. Trust me, people will do it for a month or 2 and forget all about it.

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Originally Posted by Teraluna

This whole use Squadron bots instead of actual players ranks as one of the worst decisions made in an mmo. I stress mmo, this is not one of those isolationist single player survival or shoot-em-up efforts - but this kind of thing is moving it in that direction...

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I can understand the frustration and concern. This is something that can go either way, depending on how they decide to implement it.

Right now, like someone said, it's only 5 dungeons. One thing to keep in mind though is this might seem like a way to reduce queue time for DPS, but also allow people who need the content from earlier dungeons (so far 2.x) to complete them without long wait times. This, to me, is due to their large amount of dungeon content that gets out-dated quickly.

Not sure how many times you can run it in a day though. If we can only run it once or twice, that's good too. Use it to get your challenge log done if you need to. As long as they keep the squadron able to run into dungeons from previous expansions, it won't be so bad.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

Trust me, people will do it for a month or 2 and forget all about it.

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That is true, most of this will blow over. I think one person is afraid of items being required for other content you can only obtain through squadron dungeon runs. I don't think they'll go down that far. Right now a few emotes is fine. It will have its hype and die down.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

You have to have unlocked the dungeons first before running with your squad...

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Maybe that is where I am getting confused. Normally when we have a dungeon we do a quest and at a point it will say how we've unlocked it, not completed. Do the quest and finish the dungeon to get the duty to come up in roulette.

So maybe it is safe to say we need it completed rather than just unlocked? If so that will take out any help for newer people and place it back into the old ways which is perfectly fine. As for it doing anything for roulette, probably not in a giant way. Those who have 4/5 dungeons on a Monday night and are dead tired..if they can run a quick / easy one with their squadron, that isn't so bad.

I don't think the weight of these squadron runs are that heavy and it will probably fade away into the background. Or it may not, can't cancel anything out until we get our nubby lil hands on things.

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Wonder what this will do exactly?

Also have they said anything about lifting the restriction on Job Level Potions ??

Hmmmm... In the Live Letter we saw that there was only one type of allied seals, but no mention of it in the prelim patch notes. It's disconcerting, but I wonder if we jumped the gun.

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Originally Posted by Leigaon

I can understand the frustration and concern. This is something that can go either way, depending on how they decide to implement it.

Right now, like someone said, it's only 5 dungeons. One thing to keep in mind though is this might seem like a way to reduce queue time for DPS, but I also think it's their way of saying we have too much content piling up and this is a way for players who are starting out to work on getting their dungeons.

Plus we aren't sure how many times a day we can run it are we? Or Maybe I missed that in the patch notes.

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You have to have unlocked the dungeons first before running with your squad, and they (the squad) have to be rank 2. I don't think this is for people starting out. And I dont see rewards listed yet, so I still dont think this will be impeding daily roulettes in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by Keys2tkingdom

Hmmmm... In the Live Letter we saw that there was only one type of allied seals, but no mention of it in the prelim patch notes. It's disconcerting, but I wonder if we jumped the gun.

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It's Preliminary Patch Notes. AKA: Not complete. They don't put anything in that we could potentially abuse. They'll give more detailed notes during the patch.

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Originally Posted by Pence

It's Preliminary Patch Notes. AKA: Not complete. They don't put anything in that we could potentially abuse. They'll give more detailed notes during the patch.

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Here's to hoping then.

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Originally Posted by TristanBlane

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Wonder what this will do exactly?

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Level a retainer to 60 or 70. I thought that was kind of self-explanatory.

Usually they buff the drop rate for birdies/ponies when a new primal extreme is released. I'm hoping they do the same for the wolfs the amount of people that are still failing dps checks with ilvl 330 destroys my patience to farm it atm.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

You have to have unlocked the dungeons first before running with your squad, and they (the squad) have to be rank 2. I don't think this is for people starting out. And I dont see rewards listed yet, so I still dont think this will be impeding daily roulettes in the slightest.

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I think you are right also if memory serves me right the squadron is unlocked with the second to last rank in GC meaning you need to clear Aurum Vale

Not trying to step on any toes (especially as I LIKE the Adventurer Squadron idea) but trying to defend the "shouldn't be forced to play with others in an MMO" thing is kinda laughable.

MMO: Massively Multiplayer Online. . .

The quality of life upgrades though! Some I didn't even know I wanted (looking at you Fey Caress).

Also, lookit how much MSQ we're getting. Is it just me, or is this far more than we've gotten outside of initial expansion launch story?

Also, oooo. Our expert dungeons have increased. I actually like this new method, instead of pushing dungeons down. You can actually get variety instead of card A or card B.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Is it just me, or is this far more than we've gotten outside of initial expansion launch story?

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It depends a bit on how long the actual quests are, but it looks more than in HW - Probably on the same level as the 2.1-2.55 part?

I just hope it won't contain massive amounts of travelling. Skipping cutscenes doesn't take that long, but always porting around is annoying.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Also, lookit how much MSQ we're getting. Is it just me, or is this far more than we've gotten outside of initial expansion launch story?

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3.1 had eight. So they've added three additional quests, assuming each is of equivalent length. 2.1 had twenty but we all know more than half wound up just being fetch quests.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Now, in regard to FF14, this game is way different in many regards. I want to see how the mercenaries work before I make a judgement (though if regular NPCs in duties and battles are any indication ... ugh. Swear they are dumb as bricks) ...

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There are some SB job duties with tank/healer/dps NPCs.. they are MUCH better than before. They do mechanics!! I am interested to see how squadrons end up, though they might start out pretty dumb (which is kinda endearing). I liked the squadrons, but it's way too much stat tinkering to do the higher level missions, so I stopped using them.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Not trying to step on any toes (especially as e. . .

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Swtor, guild wars two has plenty u can do by urself, eso, it's a difference in meeting up in the same area and killing a boss, and having to do every instance in the game with others. If we could do squads in everything before max level would be so amazing. No more 30 min ques, this would have been amazing. It's plenty to do with others I hope they expand on this in the future

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Originally Posted by RosaLunaCelestia

Someone can give me the link about moving fc house ? Forgot how we will do...and no want lose our actual FC m because of a error...

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If you search for this text it will bring up the details: "The relocation feature has been added for housing." or "Une fonction de déménagement a été ajoutée. " http://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a2fee31eb88cf3


One thing I wonder is, before when we transfer servers our friends are deleted. Now that we can have cross world friends are they still deleted, or do they stay?

There's several things I like about this patch, but there's one thing I'm not sure on and that's the lakshimi and susano wolves being available for 99 totems. I'm seriously hoping they'll be available in 4.1. I have over 100 Susano totems I want to use for the wolf and I already got most of the weapons I wanted.

But I'll wait to see the full notes, maybe they're just not in the preliminary notes.

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Originally Posted by Aronys

Those 14 new emotes tho. <3

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I'm so happy I can talk to my chocobo now.