You know what - I Like what's Happening (Scattered Thoughts)

Lets be clear about one thing.... them saving FF14 from its 1.0 launch was not about us but rather the huge financial investment SE made. They didn't do it for us.

Look on the Brightside, it could be worse

Maybe they should have worried more about server stability than how many ridiculous things they could get the stormblood logo on.

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Originally Posted by Zadist

Maybe they should have worried more about server stability than how many ridiculous things they could get the stormblood logo on.

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You mean by moving servers to a supposedly new and more efficient outlet? That's done real great so far right? Either way when I left the NA center for EU I was able to clear the instance right away and went on with my expansion.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

You mean by moving servers to a supposedly new and more efficient outlet? That's done real great so far right? Either way when I left the NA center for EU I was able to clear the instance right away and went on with my expansion.

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Can't tell if sarcasm or not. Because that server move was a pretty bad deal for a great deal of folks.

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Originally Posted by Kysis

Here is Why:

We have a team that built upon, rebuilt, and improved a game that for all intents and purposes, was terrible.

But what did they do? they Didn't give up, they updated, they patched, they brought it from a steaming pile to a presentable pile, then hid it away for a year and a bit and came back to us and presented us a roast dinner.

What does that say to the many people sitting here, abusing Square, their staff and the team that has put Hundreds of hours into creating something you can enjoy and play? That are giving up their time and sanity to sit at their computers, run tests, fix and compile code, and use their brains to try and make another expansion go well.

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ITS THEIR FUCKING JOB. They aren't giving up shit. Its their goddamn job. They are fucking paid, with the money we paid for this xpac.

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Originally Posted by Kysis

Tell me people - do you think a restaurant with prestige and a name like for example Chef Ramsey would just open? No - they have Soft openings - they open to people to come and taste items, review and update before the official opening. But since a game isn't a restaurant, its not a soft opening! So it is early access! Think of it that way - you are here to sample the game before the official launch.

It is thanks to you, from the sane and reasonable to the whinny and ignorant, that they are improving as a team, a company and as individuals to offer more to you.

I honestly doubt there is anyone sitting on their backside at any Square office at the moment, and are working extremely hard to combat the issues you face.

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What you're thinking of is called open beta. Early access is the trade-off we get for giving them our money early and letting them be able to report strong pre-order numbers to their investors.

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Originally Posted by Kysis

So a few thoughts:

- Yes you payed money, and that money is paying for the commitment of the staff to provide you with a service.

- You're not a Special snowflake like your mum said, that requires every developer drop everything and pay attention to your needs.

- You pay money for this - good for you - but as it is quite literally not even 3 days and with the needs of over 1 million people on a tonne of servers accessing a product from all over the world - you may not be the main priority!

- There are real people that you are screaming insults, posting hurtful and mean comments to, people that have homes, families, bills, and lives to lead. These people, despite this sort of negativity that's prevalent, are working their backsides off to get the game working to a standard again.

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You're the reason why game companies continue to do this bullshit. Apologists.

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Originally Posted by Kysis

OH NO! Someone made a comment mocking my opinions and view on the internet with such a lame, boring and uninspired comeback... welp - time to validate myself by joining the whinning masses eh? tell me, how should i start?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SwxO3yA6A0

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Originally Posted by Zadist

Can't tell if sarcasm or not. Because that server move was a pretty bad deal for a great deal of folks.

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Pretty obvious it was sarcasm.

My main gripe is that the issues, namely the problem that the game cannot scale when under heavy load, are problems that have been solved by other games. I keep using ESO and GW2 as examples, but there are others, Destiny probably being the most noteworthy.

But either the management won't give the team the budget to implement these solutions or the development team has the budget but lacks anyone with the skills or talent to implement these solutions.

It boggles my mind that some in the community are so ready to excuse this poor performance when there are plenty of examples of other games that have already solved these problems. Destiny, for example, was raked over the coals recently when they had 5 hours of inconsistent login performance when they launched their Rise of Iron expansion.

But here we're being asked to be patient and accept days, potentially weeks, of unstable performance and pay a subscription fee to boot. That takes a lot of gall, does it not?

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Originally Posted by Zadist

Maybe they should have worried more about server stability than how many ridiculous things they could get the stormblood logo on.

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This. So much this.
We were naive to think our money would serve to improve the game when, actually, it went to this: http://www.geekgirlauthority.com/wp-...FFXIVCover.jpg

Why are people believing we should be happy if we got anything from them, even if its not that good or not even truly working? We are paying them! They did not safe this game because of the playerbase but simply because it did cost them a lot and they hoped to get it back by remaking it. Also it was not Yoshida alone that "saved" the game. Behind him is a big team that put in all the work so I am kinda getting sad reading all the Yoshida praise while the work is done by more than one person. Without his workers behind him even he could have not done something.

The same can be said about the problems right now. If someone else made the decision that somehow two story instanced trials should be right at the beginning of the expansion then it might not have been his mistake (if he was not the one that said it should happen the way) but since he was the one that "saved" protect as a skill I am quite sure that he has a big say in the story too thus should have seen this coming..and did nothing..

If I go into a restaurant and they have a whole menu that you can eat for the money but you only get one little part of this because somehow they made a mistake then you might be okay with waiting a bit but after some time you just go and leave and maybe never come back. Also you would complain about it too.

I am just not sure why the gaming industry should not be held to these standards too. If someone buys a product/service they want it to be useable and not only partly but completely. With game people are accepting that there can be bugs and we know that MMO launches are often not that great..but this was not a bug..this was a design mistake..something one should have seen coming a mile away..(lets throw out all the money to advertise the game, sent the team all around the world instead of letting them work on the game [how about having a whole PR team that handles this and not a man that probably has already too much on his plate?] and then be surprised that people try it out..)