GC items Fail = SE Fail

1.19 proved that glads dont even need shields, lol

i thought block rates were supposed to be increased on all shields anyways. SE had said they were fixing the auto block. did anyone notice if it mentioned it int he notes, i didn't see it.

I'm just as mad about not getting a Lv25 Lominsan Doublet Vest before I chose a different GC, man. I sure hope the balancing they do is right now, because I just got MIN to 25 and ARM is 23.... >_<

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Originally Posted by Coglin

So your crying here because your ability to tank will be limited depending on what GC you chose, and you picked the wrong one? If the shield is that fundimental to your ability as a tank, well, you have bigger issues then a GC shield.

We can do what is arguably the toughest battle in the game (ifrit) in our underpants with level 1 weapons, and your balling out other peoples perspective for diversity, over a shield.

Sorry, but every player I know preferes a tank that makes the shield, not ones in which the shield makes the tank.

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noob....I tank ifrit in my santa suit. make a constructive post or GTFO

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

The Grand Companies were bound to have different perks and rewards (in a balanced manner), anyone who's played RPGs long should had seen this coming.

Instead of bawwing, I suggest square should alow members of different companies to buy gear but double, maybe 1.5x~2x the cost of the base price.

Maybe when the Frontlines PVP content is released and say one nation is dominating ruins control, the 2 lower GCs can from a partnership and the inflated prices are waved till the head nation loses control of the ruins.


OP is a candyass whiner.

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noobs.

Also I would love to spend double or even triple to get gear from other GC's.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i thought block rates were supposed to be increased on all shields anyways. SE had said they were fixing the auto block. did anyone notice if it mentioned it int he notes, i didn't see it.

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there is no mention in any of the letter's to producer or the patch notes that shield is being fixed. if it is its a ninja patch. if it isnt I still hate SE.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

there is no mention in any of the letter's to producer or the patch notes that shield is being fixed. if it is its a ninja patch. if it isnt I still hate SE.

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there were tons of threads on broken block and they said it would be fixed.I was really hoping to start using my shield again.

I'm 100% with LicontAshontear on this one. It isn't fair. I may have screwed up and not got the gear I wanted when I had the chance, but now I'm regretting it. The option to spend Company Seals in other cities needs to be available, no matter the consequences.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

noob....

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Are you telling me that your a noob?

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

I tank ifrit in my santa suit.

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Sure you did. tell yourself whatever you need to so you sleep better att night. Why would anyone cry like a 8 year old school girl with a skent knee all over the forums about a little ole' shield if they have pics to prove this claim? Sounds bass ackwards to me.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

make a constructive post or GTFO

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I thought pointing out how irrelavent gear is in the arguably toughest fght in game was highly relavent on the topic of how someone deems that a piece of gear is so important that we need to make game altering changes. If thats not relavent with your frame of mind then hey, bartender, I'll have what he's having.

ps, i love the new aegis boon, at least now we are guaranteed a block here and there,lol

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Originally Posted by Coglin

So your crying here because your ability to tank will be limited depending on what GC you chose, and you picked the wrong one? If the shield is that fundimental to your ability as a tank, well, you have bigger issues then a GC shield.

We can do what is arguably the toughest battle in the game (ifrit) in our underpants with level 1 weapons, and your balling out other peoples perspective for diversity, over a shield.

Sorry, but every player I know preferes a tank that makes the shield, not ones in which the shield makes the tank.

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I'd really like to see a video with lvl 1 weapons. The Santa crew used their top weapons.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

I thought pointing out how irrelavent gear is in the arguably toughest fght in game was highly relavent on the topic of how someone deems that a piece of gear is so important that we need to make game altering changes. If thats not relavent with your frame of mind then hey, bartender, I'll have what he's having.

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Rofl, hardly the toughest fight in the game, and you are a noob if you think so. X_X

Anyway I think it's logical to assume all shields will be revamped like one guys said, just wait for the patch and you'll see. But I do agree with the idea of spending double or triple seals on other GCs, that definitely NEEDS to be in there.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Are you telling me that your a noob?



Sure you did. tell yourself whatever you need to so you sleep better att night. Why would anyone cry like a 8 year old school girl with a skent knee all over the forums about a little ole' shield if they have pics to prove this claim? Sounds bass ackwards to me.



I thought pointing out how irrelavent gear is in the arguably toughest fght in game was highly relavent on the topic of how someone deems that a piece of gear is so important that we need to make game altering changes. If thats not relavent with your frame of mind then hey, bartender, I'll have what he's having.

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sigh...troll..

yes...you are a trolling a noob...


http://twentyfourseven.guildwork.com...5cb27a1200a1af

enjoy ^^

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Originally Posted by WiiSam

Rofl, hardly the toughest fight in the game, and you are a noob if you think so. X_X

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Currently I would say the toughest fight is a tie between Zahar'ak NM and Natalan NM. Kobold NM is a cake walk.

Ifrit is weak. Very very weak.

I wonder how the moogle fight will be.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

I wonder how the moogle fight will be.

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It will be like a knee to the arrow

/hides

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

It will be like a knee to the arrow

/hides

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you mean an arrow to the knee? >.>;

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

you mean an arrow to the knee? >.>;

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no no no

a knee to the arrow

are you this angry and irrational in real life?

for me, when you started yelling "noobs" you lost every credibility you could have. I understand auto-block was a nerf (thou was broken before) and ifrit bypass your shield cause swipes aren't blockable, but telling noob to people it's a poor argument to prove your point. Cry more

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

for me, when you started yelling "noobs" you lost every credibility you could have. I understand auto-block was a nerf (thou was broken before) and ifrit bypass your shield cause swipes aren't blockable, but telling noob to people it's a poor argument to prove your point. Cry more

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noob :P <3

you could quit FFXIV as a form of protest.
WoW needs tanks like you.

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Originally Posted by Phe

you could quit FFXIV as a form of protest.
WoW needs tanks like you.

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+1

<3

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Originally Posted by WiiSam

I'd really like to see a video with lvl 1 weapons. The Santa crew used their top weapons.

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Doing ifrit with level 1 weapons would be impossible, there simply isn't enough damage. Don't know if you've equipped a weathered weapon lately, but the other night I put a bronze war axe on my character thinking I could substitute it for my ifrits axe while waiting for someone to come out to repair it while I was pling my alt. I was doing 80 damage fully buffed storms paths to the mobs. The level 33 mobs, the level 33 mobs that while I had my ifrits axe equipped I was accidently one shotting with auto attack. The damage you do is so determinate on your weapon it is ridiculous. This brings me to the point of the original topic though, all this bs that SE is pulling with the grand companies is completely absurd. Sure, they will be "balanced" over time, but over time doesn't really matter. I don't want to wait a year for the limsa gear to maybe possibly be relevant. All the stats for each piece of gear in their companies should have been exactly the same. Hows that for balance for you SE? Make the stats on all the gear the same but give them different looks to go with each company. You know how long it took me to think of that idea? 5 seconds. 3 of those seconds was me typing the idea so I don't know why your team of developers couldn't think of it.

The whole "just wait we will fix it in the future" nonsense is something that you guys need to get out of your head. I am as excited about 2.0 as the next person, but some of things weve had to wait months to get fixed like the DC issue in darkhold completely destroying runs especially when the ogre room has so much crap going on it has such a high DC ratio, and the ifrit loot not being tradeable are ridiculous.

There is no "BS" with Grand Companies, you choose whichever GC you like - It's that simple, if an item isn't in all 3 it's not the end of the world, they always release better gear outside of the GC regardless, ontop of the fact there's also Materia ontop of the fact they'll be adding new crafted gear by next update if I recall, you don't choose the GC because of item selection.

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Originally Posted by Req

The whole "just wait we will fix it in the future" nonsense is something that you guys need to get out of your head. I am as excited about 2.0 as the next person, but some of things weve had to wait months to get fixed like the DC issue in darkhold completely destroying runs especially when the ogre room has so much crap going on it has such a high DC ratio, and the ifrit loot not being tradeable are ridiculous.

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People say "wait" because SE themselves said certain things can't be fixed till new server infrastructure and client.

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Originally Posted by Req

Doing ifrit with level 1 weapons would be impossible, there simply isn't enough damage. Don't know if you've equipped a weathered weapon lately, but the other night I put a bronze war axe on my character thinking I could substitute it for my ifrits axe while waiting for someone to come out to repair it while I was pling my alt. I was doing 80 damage fully buffed storms paths to the mobs. The level 33 mobs, the level 33 mobs that while I had my ifrits axe equipped I was accidently one shotting with auto attack. The damage you do is so determinate on your weapon it is ridiculous. This brings me to the point of the original topic though, all this bs that SE is pulling with the grand companies is completely absurd. Sure, they will be "balanced" over time, but over time doesn't really matter. I don't want to wait a year for the limsa gear to maybe possibly be relevant. All the stats for each piece of gear in their companies should have been exactly the same. Hows that for balance for you SE? Make the stats on all the gear the same but give them different looks to go with each company. You know how long it took me to think of that idea? 5 seconds. 3 of those seconds was me typing the idea so I don't know why your team of developers couldn't think of it.

The whole "just wait we will fix it in the future" nonsense is something that you guys need to get out of your head. I am as excited about 2.0 as the next person, but some of things weve had to wait months to get fixed like the DC issue in darkhold completely destroying runs especially when the ogre room has so much crap going on it has such a high DC ratio, and the ifrit loot not being tradeable are ridiculous.

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yay a real post.

we tank ifrit with level 1 armor, not weapons. hell I could probably tank ifrit naked.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

People say "wait" because SE themselves said certain things can't be fixed till new server infrastructure and client.

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....they have already added new items, changed stats on old items, deleted old items, etc etc.

they could very easily change it so that the items are balanced. But they wont...

You should put def on your shield, gimp.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

....they have already added new items, changed stats on old items, deleted old items, etc etc.

they could very easily change it so that the items are balanced. But they wont...

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some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


welcome to MMOs and choosing sides

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


welcome to MMOs and choosing sides

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well since this thread has gotten grosly off topic, let me explain what i already did on page 1.

I know that the items will be different, IDC about that. The point is 99% of the items from GC's have a crafted/NM droped equivalent or better, EXCEPT THAT SHIELD. It is the best in the game by a wide margin and can only be obtained from that one GC. That is what I am angry about. Now if there was a comparable shield with block rate of say maybe 140ish with block mitigation of around 80-90 then I would not care because I can go get that and still be pretty good. But in this case I cannot. And they have said nothing about changing stats on current shields, and I highly doubt they would ninja that in. And it will be months before the next patch in which I MIGHT (keyword here is might, notice it is in caps) get a chance at a new shield.

Please end all pointless flaming and lets get back ontopic now.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

well since this thread has gotten grosly off topic, let me explain what i already did on page 1.

I know that the items will be different, IDC about that. The point is 99% of the items from GC's have a crafted/NM droped equivalent or better, EXCEPT THAT SHIELD. It is the best in the game by a wide margin and can only be obtained from that one GC. That is what I am angry about. Now if there was a comparable shield with block rate of say maybe 140ish with block mitigation of around 80-90 then I would not care because I can go get that and still be pretty good. But in this case I cannot. And they have said nothing about changing stats on current shields, and I highly doubt they would ninja that in. And it will be months before the next patch in which I MIGHT (keyword here is might, notice it is in caps) get a chance at a new shield.

Please end all pointless flaming and lets get back ontopic now.

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im going to take a moment and point out you are raging over a game
its a game, you know the thing we play to entertain us
its not real life, its not important, its not the end of the world

its 1 piece of gear and i think youll be ok living without it

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im going to take a moment and point out you are raging over a game
its a game, you know the thing we play to entertain us
its not real life, its not important, its not the end of the world

its 1 piece of gear and i think youll be ok living without it

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.....and let the flaming continue. srsly stop the trolls and just lock this thread since we cant have a real discussion about anything apparently

Not to mention when they release new recipes and add new raids and add new NMs which can drop a Shield even better than what's offered the past year or so, it's definitely not the end of the world.

Again, I know new stuff is coming. Srsly do people read? Im saying right now they have introduced something amazingly good and it is only for the few that chose that GC. I know balances are coming IN THE FUTURE. My point is we should not have to wait for the future. It should be balanced at each and every patch. This whole unbalancing of the GC items could have been avoided by simply making the stats either the same, but have the graphics different, or like others have suggested, open all GC items up for purchase but at an increased seal cost.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


welcome to MMOs and choosing sides

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The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do because it wasn't supposed to be advantageous to join a certain company over any other. It is unacceptable that uldah gets pants that give 9 attack power, in which the only item thats better for a DD is the mercenary's slops which is a pain in the ass to get I might add.

Sure, they have different stats for different types of clases, I just don't understand why they couldn't have made a set for mage classes, DD classes, and tank classes for each rank in all three companies with the same stats. With the type of "balancing" they are currently doing I am not going to be surprised if the moogle fists have 200 damage on them and 50 attack power with an added bonus of "occasionally stuns the target" even though they are supposed to be equal to the ifrit weapons.

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Originally Posted by Req

The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do because it wasn't supposed to be advantageous to join a certain company over any other. It is unacceptable that uldah gets pants that give 9 attack power, in which the only item thats better for a DD is the mercenary's slops which is a pain in the ass to get I might add.

Sure, they have different stats for different types of clases, I just don't understand why they couldn't have made a set for mage classes, DD classes, and tank classes for each rank in all three companies with the same stats.

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+1

^everything this dude said.

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Originally Posted by Req

The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do

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Which is exactly what you still do, you choose the GC you want to choose given what they stand for -- Even with certain gear being in certain places there's still zero benefit over one another.

Are you getting 2,000 seals per quest joining Twin Adder instead of Immortal Flames?

That's what you call an advantage given design -- Items that will more than likely be obsoleted in 2 months isn't an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which is exactly what you still do, you choose the GC you want to choose given what they stand for -- Even with certain gear being in certain places there's still zero benefit over one another.

Are you getting 2,000 seals per quest joining Twin Adder instead of Immortal Flames?

That's what you call an advantage given design -- Items that will more than likely be obsoleted in 2 months isn't an advantage.

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its still an advantage for 2 months.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

its still an advantage for 2 months.

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something will always be better then something else

so its a moot arguement

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

something will always be better then something else

so its a moot arguement

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yes something will always be better. the problem is only a select group of people can even get it. if it was a NM drop or something crafted atleast then it would be fair. this is unbalanced.