PS4 text size

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Originally Posted by seida

I posted above how you can enlarge them, either use USB mouse or enable the touchpad mouse. Right-click on the dialogue box and choose "scale window".

It doesn't help with the menu size, but it makes reading the dialogue text easy.

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Unfortunately, unless my game's settings bugged out, it resets to its previous size every time you oog out.

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Originally Posted by seida

I posted above how you can enlarge them, either use USB mouse or enable the touchpad mouse. Right-click on the dialogue box and choose "scale window".

It doesn't help with the menu size, but it makes reading the dialogue text easy.

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I tried this and nothing happens, it just advances the dialogue.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I tried this and nothing happens, it just advances the dialogue.

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You have to right click and hold, while holding you can then left click the scale window option

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You have to right click and hold, while holding you can then left click the scale window option

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I don't see any such option.

Again, why can't it just be in the HUD layout options like everything else?

100% main menu and npc dialog way too small, 150% display names/hover text way too big, either way really hurts the eyes... please fix soon SE!

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I don't see any such option.

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Here you go
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Again, when I click it just advances the dialog. No menu options appear for me, even if I hold.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Again, when I click it just advances the dialog. No menu options appear for me, even if I hold.

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Are you using the right button? Left click does advance the dialog, have to use right click and continue to hold for the menu to stay up. Otherwise right click will advance also if don't hold. Otherwise I don't know what kind of settings you are using.

SE please, just put both the NPC dialog and the (crossbar style) main menu in the HUD Layout menu where they belong, so we can resize them in the natural place where people will look for the ability to do so. Oh, and while you're at it, put all the hidden windows for where various notifications appear there, too.

It's ridiculous to have to track down obscure hidden features like turn on mouse mode then hold R2 while pressing L2 as well (which you don't do anywhere else and isn't documented) to bring up a hidden menu. You clearly added a resize feature to the dialog box. Why hide it like that, when we have a whole HUD Layout section specifically for doing such things?

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Here's a fix for the dialogue boxes.

Enable expanded mouse functionality in the system settings
Find an npc to talk to
Enable virtual mouse with L1 + R3
Move the virtual mouse over the text box and hold R2
Change the scaling to increase the dialog box size

For some reason you can't access the scaling menu without expanded mouse functionality enabled.

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Thank you for the hint! It works wonders! I can get around the tiny menu but the dialog box were really a downer.
For those having trouble with the simulated right click be sure to be talking with a npc. For some reason you can't access the right click menù if you're into a cutscene of a main quest

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

It's ridiculous to have to track down obscure hidden features like turn on mouse mode then hold R2 while pressing L2 as well (which you don't do anywhere else and isn't documented) to bring up a hidden menu. You clearly added a resize feature to the dialog box. Why hide it like that, when we have a whole HUD Layout section specifically for doing such things?

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Don't have to turn on mouse mode unless not using a regular mouse. IMO I don't know why anyone would not want to have a mouse connected as I find it a pain to navigate menus with the controller.

We apologize for the frustration regarding the updated display settings on PS4. We'd like to share an update from User Interface Lead Minagawa on the issue, the team's plans to address the issue, and measures you can currently take.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

Greetings, everyone. User Interface Lead Minagawa here.

We're currently experiencing an issue where players aren't able to set the UI display size to what they used previously due to major changes made to process the UI size for the PlayStation®4 version. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience this is causing. On behalf of my team, please let me explain the situation and measures we're currently looking into.

Cause of the issue
Up until now, the PlayStation®4 version had two display quality modes, Standard and Maximum Display Settings; however, the resolution which was available on the Standard Display Settings became unavailable on the PlayStation®4 version, and in order to address higher HD resolutions for the PlayStation®4 Pro, we made major changes to the foundation for the system which adjusts the UI display size. When we made this change, in order to reproduce the existing display size, we placed measures on each UI element, but due to an error, it caused an issue wherein some of the UI elements are not being displayed the same size as before.

Measures moving forward
Currently, we're looking into measures to be able to display the same UI size as before as quickly as possible. We'll follow-up on this once we can confirm when this can be addressed. We'll also update you all in case the investigation may take a bit longer.

How to address the issue
Currently, the main menu, and NPC dialogue boxes are being displayed in a smaller size. If you would like to increase the size, please change the display size under the System Configuration > Display Settings > User Interface Size to 150%.

With this setting, other windows will be displayed at 150% size; therefore, please change the Default UI Size > Default Size to 100% or any other size you prefer.

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The issue with this setting is that the name plates will also be displayed at the 150% size. As mentioned earlier, we're currently looking into measures to address this issue, so we ask for your patience.

Again, we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. We'll follow up once we have an update.

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The mouse mode trick works, but one you click the R2 button to grab the dialogue box, you cannot release it while you navigate the menu. You have have it continually pressed down. It's weird, but I was able to keep everything at the 100% mark while blowing up the dialogue box to a comfortable 140%.

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Originally Posted by Zhexos

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

Currently, we're looking into measures to be able to display the same UI size as before as quickly as possible.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Zhexos

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

The issue with this setting is that the name plates will also be displayed at the 150% size. As mentioned earlier, we're currently looking into measures to address this issue, so we ask for your patience.

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That's only one of the issues with that setting. It's not just the name plates that end up huge. It's everything. You have to completely redo your entire HUD if you change that. (And then presumably redo it yet again once the issue is fixed.) The name plates just stand out as the worst of the problem because it's something you cannot adjust back down through HUD Layout or a window resize.

It's why I prefer just resizing the dialog box up and putting up with the tiny main menu until the fix is in place. So suggesting that (and explaining the rather obscure way to do it) as an alternative way to address the problem in the meantime might have been useful.

It seems the "Scale Window" option on the dialog box only works for the duration of one login session. Please save that info with the rest of our HUD settings so we don't have to re-do it every time we log in.


Besides the dialog box and main menu, notification text (like retainer sales or gathering results) that shows up in the center of the screen is also much smaller than before. Personally, I rather like that part of the change, since it was rather large and in the way before, but there's probably people who don't. Now if only we could control its placement and get it off the center of the screen...

Just bring back the 'Full-HD' option, it was good. I never understand why devs do changes that mess up stuff even more. smh.

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For those having trouble with the simulated right click be sure to be talking with a npc. For some reason you can't access the right click menù if you're into a cutscene of a main quest

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Well, there was my problem.

Sounds like nobody bothered to beta test the PS4 version. That's the only explanation how something like this got past QA.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

It seems the "Scale Window" option on the dialog box only works for the duration of one login session. Please save that info with the rest of our HUD settings so we don't have to re-do it every time we log in.

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This. So much. I've actually got the UI looking pretty close to what it was, except the dialog box and options menu. The only one that bothers me really is the dialog box, having to reset it every time. Plus finding an NPC that talks long enough to change the settings.

Yeah having the scale window settings for each window carry over each log in would be a start, its a temporary work around for the moment at best, annoying having to do it every log in. I hope this is fixed soon, Someone in the QA team really dropped the ball, did literally no-one test it on a standard ps4?

Ok got a sort of workaround theres a couple of steps to add in to make the above suggestion work. with your current preferred hud layout. go to System > Hud layout. Then go the little settings icon and copy your preferred hud like 1 to say 4 as a default baseline for how you have it set ( this might not help if you use 4 differnt huds for stuff. so now 1 and 4 should be the same, now make sure you are on hud 1. go and do the above System config > user inteface size 100%. NOW go to default UI size and set it to 140% and apply all. this will mess up your HUD. but if you go back to hud layout and go to HUD 4 it should go back to your preferred settings now just copy 4 to 1 using the setting button. The main menu will still be small but all other windows should be ok now. I think. Ive not tested if this carries over ok through logins as im scared to log out and test it due to queues right now, but i think it should work.

While you acknowledge this, some of your other players using PS4 will just continue staring at the download screen of a fat 22.7 mb redownload because your launcher seems it can't recognize the file that's already there. Thanks.

I'm not bothered by the UI change. But then I play on my PC monitor and sit pretty close to the display compared to my TV setup so I can understand why people are complaning on the size

Thank you! Been toying around with the UI settings since 4.0 for quite some time I found I just couldn't stand with the 150% name plates, haha. Thanks for addressing this issue, kudos to dev team.

Am I the only one here who actually likes the smaller text sizes???

100% this. It's such a huge oversight. And to adjust it by using the virtual mouse and right click it I need to find an NPC with at least two pages of dialog. If it's just one page right clicking the window just advances the text and (since it's just one page) ends the conversation and the text box closes..

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Originally Posted by Zhexos

We apologize for the frustration regarding the updated display settings on PS4. We'd like to share an update from User Interface Lead Minagawa on the issue, the team's plans to address the issue, and measures you can currently take.

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Please please also make this change available for PC users who play on a TV. I've had this problem forever. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

100% this. It's such a huge oversight. And to adjust it by using the virtual mouse and right click it I need to find an NPC with at least two pages of dialog. If it's just one page right clicking the window just advances the text and (since it's just one page) ends the conversation and the text box closes..

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I make the adjustment when talking to any vendor or my retainer as soon as I login each time.

Is there ever gonna be an update on when this will be fixed? It's rather annoying to deal with. I thought this emergency maintenance would also fix this UI issue for PS4 but I was wrong. Even with the temporary fix, having to do it every time you log in is just tedious. Plus, I noticed when going into different zones, the NPC dialogues go back to being small. :/ I would really love if they gave more of an update on this problem.

I don't get how they easily overlooked such a thing too.

Agreed. Main menu....tiny. Garden dialog boxes.....tiny. NPC dialog boxes.....tiny. Notifications.....tiny. Where's the fix? :(

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

I make the adjustment when talking to any vendor or my retainer as soon as I login each time.

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It would be nice if it get saved, so we don't have to do it everytime after a fresh login.

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Originally Posted by SimonRose

Agreed. Main menu....tiny. Garden dialog boxes.....tiny. NPC dialog boxes.....tiny. Notifications.....tiny. Where's the fix? :(

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Greetings,

We have an update from the User Interface Lead Minagawa in regards to upcoming measures to address the PS4 text size issue.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

Greetings, everyone. User Interface Lead Minagawa here.

Please allow me to give an update in regard to this matter.

We're currently creating two programs to fix the PlayStation®4 UI display scaling.

1. One will adjust certain system-type UI displays* to be the same size as they were during the Patch 3.x series.
2. Increase the font size limitation on the chat log and chat input from the current size 20 to size 36.

* This includes UI elements such as the main menu, small NPC popup text, and other text on screen.
We are unable to roll back the display system to the one from the Patch 3.x series. To address this issue, we need to create a new program for the Patch 4.x display system so that can display the elements at the same size as they were during the Patch 3.x series. For this reason, we require more time to address the issue, and we weren't able to address in the hotfixes today. We apologize for that.

The program is pretty much complete, so once we're able to test this with various settings, we'll follow up with the date in which we can release the fix. We ask for your patience a little while longer.

As for the program which will address the issue, we're taking methods so that it won't affect the settings everyone has currently set. Please rest assured that you can keep your current settings if you feel that there isn't any issue with the current UI display.

We'll go over the details once more when we release the adjustment.

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Originally Posted by Felis

It would be nice if it get saved, so we don't have to do it every time after a fresh login.

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That will come when the DEV finally delivers an actual fix. I was only trying to point out easily accessible NPCs to make the adjustment on for now.

By all means, please take your time in making sure the program works properly. More time developed means less bugs.

Awesome! I'm so glad that you guys are working on a fix for it! Thank you for hearing us out!

From someone who doesn't see all that well, thank you, thank you, thank you for this!

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It's not out yet - they're still working on it. :)

Glad this is being addressed! My eyes can't take it anymore, so I had to borrow Nidhogg's.

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