Watching the Bahamut summon gave me an idea...

I think double caster team can be viable as well. Contagion have lot more utility if there is another caster in party. Black mage also benefit from mana shift as well. After flare summoner can mana shift blm and then blm can use one more flare than usually improve lot aoe dps. Mainly you wanna use melee + ranged + caster + 1 random dps. Last spot can be like any role.

I'd be pretty pleased if Summoner just got expanded pet appearance options.

Melee: Ifrit, Leviathan, Zurvan, Red Carbuncle.
Caster: Garuda, Ramuh, Sophia, Blue Carbuncle.
Tank: Titan, Shiva, Sephirot, Yellow Carbuncle.
Ultimate: Bahamut, Alexander, Odin.

I mean, you could tear the whole job to pieces and rebuild it with swapping summons about in mind, but I think the vast majority of SMN would be happy with those options.

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Originally Posted by Neela

More and more awkward... Okami and i are not even from the same server you idiot xD

nor anyone from the following list:

Sephorai - Ultros server - who sadly got AIDS reading your posts.Semmi - Gilgamesh server - who proofed that fester isnt nerfed and is still strong for burst dmg.
Psycofang - Leviathan server - compared smn & blm adjustment in burst dmg.
vikteren - Excalibur server - saw a vid which showed that Banes tooltip most probably is wrong. (aoe dmg)
Okami - Malboro server - wants to quit cls just to avoid reading further posts although he makes more dmg than you with 25 ilvl less and no materia melt - what proofs he's way more skilled and your piety build sucks.
waifu - Gilgamesh server - also tried to make clear that shockwave will provide major extra dmg you still ignore.
Aristo - Goblin server - also said your whining sucks and lacks in truth. btw got your mount meanwhile?
Kryzen - Diabolos server - is fucked up cause you started the same BS-nonsense in Blm topics.
Fyce - Ceberus server - made it clear: time for you to leave this cls and stfu. (poor Blms .__. )

So they all protect and lie for me (whos playing on Zodiark server) just because of... what?
Your paranoia is unbelievable insane...

Oh and maybe you should take a look at Hai Hais google doc if you want to see how theorycrafting actually works instead of spamming your halfthought potecy-calculations which never made a relevant point at all.

It's not just me but a whole bunch of good smns crossover a large serverscape, who dont get your bs and you still think you are the allmighty master while everybody else is just a fucking lying noob...

awkward...

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You do realize you can change characters on your profile right?

And make yourself appear to come from another server with a different name? Let alone multiple acounts

Or... maybe you really DO realize that...

And for someone who has been playing the game a very long time like yourself, with multiple characters on multiple servers... yeah its not difficult.

i thought u can't be more stupid... you proofed i was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Neela

i thought u can't be more stupid... you proofed i was wrong.

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First of all Neela...

Its an old trick... and whether any of those other characters are your alts or not or whether other people from your FC flipping their profile to back you...

Is all completely irrelevent... if you couldn't tell by now that I'm completely unaffected by either peer pressure... or what anyone else thinks...

You are deluding yourself.

I should never have read that quote sig. Any time i read silverquicks crap it just comes out in trumps voice.

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I should never have read that quote sig. Any time i read silverquicks crap it just comes out in trumps voice.

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Well that would certainly explain why Trump continues to beat his opponents...

He is obviously unaffected by peer pressure too...

If you really think I need people for backup or my fc would care about someone like you in any way... I slightly lose hope in humanity... my ego might appear big but not that big that I would ever call someone out for an idiot like you... your selfconfidence must truly be broken apart with all the stories you came up with... dunno what to say anymore but *facepalm* over *facepalm*

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Originally Posted by Neela

If you really think I need people for backup or my fc would care about someone like you in any way... I slightly lose hope in humanity... my ego might appear big but not that big that I would ever call someone out for an idiot like you... your selfconfidence must truly be broken apart with all the stories you came up with... dunno what to say anymore but *facepalm* over *facepalm*

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If you facepalm over a facepalm did you high five yourself because its that bad?

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If you really think I need people for backup or my fc would care about someone like you in any way... I slightly lose hope in humanity... my ego might appear big but not that big that I would ever call someone out for an idiot like you... your selfconfidence must truly be broken apart with all the stories you came up with... dunno what to say anymore but *facepalm* over *facepalm*

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First of all yes... I absolutely believe you would do that.

As for the rest of that... go ahead scream your little lungs out... Won't change anything will it?

Not a summoner and don't care. But what about you TWO back up EVERYTHING you said with parses? And/or end the stupid discussion you are both carrying to continue with the Topic OP proposed and throw some ideas on it? Idk, just an idea.
And seriously, Silverquick, you sound paranoid about people in the forums using alts just to trump (hehehe, sorry couldn't help this, I'm dumb) you; the world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions and not every person out there with an opposing opinion to yours will create accounts, use alts or call their friends to create a phantom group of detractors. And your opinion is not alpha and omega, it's just an opinion.

ON DAMN TOPIC: More primals for SMN would be always cool, more playstyles or glam options are great. As long as playstyles are viable and competitive. Please carry on, guys.

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And seriously, Silverquick, you sound paranoid about people in the forums using alts just to trump (hehehe, sorry couldn't help this, I'm dumb) you; the world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions and not every person out there with an opposing opinion to yours will create accounts, use alts or call their friends to create a phantom group of detractors. And your opinion is not alpha and omega, it's just an opinion.

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You're right...

...but most people don't actively troll me from thread to thread like that... nor do I troll them or follow them from thread to thread... most just respond to me and I respond to them and that's the extent of it.

Just a certain one... and some of their followers do that. They are obviously obsessed.

Speaking of which I should probably put a Trump quote in my sig just to mess with them. I can tell they'd just blow a gasket even hearing that name. Will be fun.

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Not a summoner and don't care. But what about you TWO back up EVERYTHING you said with parses? And/or end the stupid discussion you are both carrying to continue with the Topic OP proposed and throw some ideas on it? Idk, just an idea.

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Yay it's parsed on my side I even invited him as a guest to my static to compete in savage or pvp - guess what? No response ^^'

For the topic part I threw more than one idea in this thread before he stepped in and rerolled his bad mood with irrelevant offtopic .___.

I noticed a bit of lore discussion in thread :).

I suspect they'll get around summoning Bahamut because IIRC we don't use our aether to fuel him or his abilities. We went to where he first appeared on the Carteneau Flats and meditated until we were able to channel the aether he left laying about everywhere after his calamitous temper tantrum.
Now we're 10 levels later and have had a bit of practice, once we've gathered a decent chunk of him up we can make a replica. Logical enough.

Not sure how they'll get around more regular egis though, I'd guess that Y'mhitra discovers a way to have the summons you're not currently using be less of a burden on your natural aether reserves allowing you to raise the cap on pets. Makes plausible sense, like a Summoner version of storing unused egis in zip files I guess.

Either that or something lame like "summon Ifrit, but think about Leviathan when you do it lol."

First off I'm nobodies follower in game or the real life... I'm not neelas or anybody's friend... I am just a guy tired of seeing silverquick posting the same nonsense in EVERY goddamn thread about Summoners... this fool only cares about numbers (low ones by every other summoners standards it seems) and always brings it up in every thread on topic or not... I have no tolerance for tedious, weak minded, and useless people...

In topic: at this point the SMN ship has sailed and both pet and anti-pet camps should be satisfied with the current iteration...