bored...

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Every time someone says they are bored, check their profile ;)

Unfinished Quests
51 / 134 QUESTS COMPLETE
35 / 40 NMS SLAYED
18 / 42 FACTIONS COMPLETE
21 / 24 CAMPS
28 / 62 AETHERYTE GATES

You've got lots to do I see ;)

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HURR DURR
I got work to do but I'm still bored.

Well my point is, stop complaining there is nothing to do. If you choose not to do it and then call yourself bored, it is not SE's fault. Dungeons + Hard fights are not the be all / end all of an MMO.
Have you collected all your Grand Company Gear with seals?

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Well my point is, stop complaining there is nothing to do. If you choose not to do it and then call yourself bored, it is not SE's fault. Dungeons + Hard fights are not the be all / end all of an MMO.
Have you collected all your Grand Company Gear with seals?

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My inventories are filled to the brim with crafting mats. The last thing I need is Inventory -4 from those pieces of junk. I already have pumpkin heads, egg helmets, bathing suits, an earring, a samurai helmet with bunny ears and dream attire mats collecting dust.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Well my point is, stop complaining there is nothing to do. If you choose not to do it and then call yourself bored, it is not SE's fault. Dungeons + Hard fights are not the be all / end all of an MMO.
Have you collected all your Grand Company Gear with seals?

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It's really just a matter of preference. The only concern when playing a video game should be, "Is what I'm doing right now fun?" Some people will find collecting all their grand company gear fun. Others will find it mundane.

Yeah just because you haven't beaten every level 10 fetch quest in the game does de-value someones opinion. Apparently you cant say your bored without having every single job to 50 war/magic/craft/gathering done 50 ifrit runs with no drop still, and wasted your time doing the strongholds for obsolete gear. HOW DARE YOU BE BORED

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Originally Posted by Irondude

Yeah just because you haven't beaten every level 10 fetch quest in the game does de-value someones opinion. Apparently you cant say your bored without having every single job to 50 war/magic/craft/gathering done 50 ifrit runs with no drop still, and wasted your time doing the strongholds for obsolete gear. HOW DARE YOU BE BORED

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My husband hasn't done any of that and he is bored as heck...:P

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Well my point is, stop complaining there is nothing to do. If you choose not to do it and then call yourself bored, it is not SE's fault. Dungeons + Hard fights are not the be all / end all of an MMO.
Have you collected all your Grand Company Gear with seals?

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It's not SE's fault their product is boring?
Please tell me you're trying to make a logical point here because I clearly do not see it.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

It's not SE's fault their product is boring?
Please tell me you're trying to make a logical point here because I clearly do not see it.

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Now now, lets all be fair here. Holy find the content fun, you don't...what's wrong with both opinions being valid? I mean they are opinions...many find the content adequate, many don't...that's okay right?

I'm bored!

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Originally Posted by LillithaFenimore

Now now, lets all be fair here. Holy find the content fun, you don't...what's wrong with both opinions being valid? I mean they are opinions...many find the content adequate, many don't...that's okay right?

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That's not Holy's or my argument; so your whole statement is irrelevant.

I'm board.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

That's not Holy's or my argument; so your whole statement is irrelevant.

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Sorry...I got bored with talking about being bored and didn't read the whole thread :) LOL. I was just going off the quote that Holy posted, sorry.

Use your imagination and do something you might consider fun =)

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Use your imagination and do something you might consider fun =)

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Like playing Assassins Creed or trolling IGN Stories about how awesome Suckrim is? In other words, not logging on XIV?

Here, this might help illustrate my point a bit better. I should have taken the time to respond in this matter originally, as my point is obviously getting lost. My fault for making an assumption that people would rather read short concise responses as opposed to properly conveyed ones. A refreshing thing too I might add.

Keep in mind not all of this is directly related to this thread, but my points about fun and gratification hold merit to this thread.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

This example is always interesting and comes up relatively often. If doing any of the things you've mentioned held value for the person in whose face you're throwing them, they would have done them. The gates and camps are not content, as a side note. That's like saying commuting to work is content in my day. It's incidental to some other thing I'm doing. In other words it's a means to an end, not an end in itself. If I go to some camps on the way to a quest, great. If I never visited that place before, it's because there is no reason to go there or pass through there.

It's an interesting issue because when people on these forums say they have nothing to do, what they really mean is there is nothing left for them to do that they want to do. Is the post itself a form of trolling? I don't know with certainty because the person might be genuinely asking what else is there for them to potentially do in the upcoming patch. I tend not to just assume people are trolling because it's a bit of a jaded way to approach everything, despite the fact that it seems to be the norm here. That being said responding to them by stating all the things they clearly didn't already do for whatever reason isn't an answer. That form of reply is definitely trolling the OP and contributes nothing. You're intentionally suggesting a bunch of ridiculous things just to bait the person and to prove in a back handed manner that "see! you haven't done everything! so there!"... That's just silly.

Maybe it's the OP's fault for not clearly articulating that he or she has done all the things they wanted to do in the game and are now awaiting some new choices they haven't yet either explored and done or passed on instead of phrasing it as "There is nothing left to do". But it certainly doesn't make anything better by replying that way.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Exploring the vast Eorzea isn't content? I guess traveling the globe isn't relevant IRL either for that matter to you.

The first thing I look for when I feel am bored of the "popular" content such as Ifrit, is go take a look at my own list and see what I have not done. From there I decide hmm, which sounds more enticing today. I ask if I'd rather go alone, or bring along a couple people form my our LS. Perhaps I will ask if they need anything done, and go help them instead because adventuring with others is a lot more fun than running around alone to me. Maybe I don't even want to do something on my list and go take out a high Level Molboro in the Black Shroud. Some of these offer physical reward, some to not. Sometimes it is about personal challenge and personal gratification and not about the gil/exp/equipment/material reward. Think outside the box for a change, there is a an entire world out there.

SE has provided the world to us to explore, expecting them to hold my hand and guide my day to day actions seems pretty silly in my opinion. Forgive me then for not articulating in novella form when I post these types of responses. I actually take into consideration that the OP might have done the obvious things they enjoy, but are looking for more enjoyment. The point I am making goes well beyond the simple "see! you haven't done everything! so there." If I wrote a more than a paragraph, would most people even take the time to read it? If I simply said "think outside the box," would that please you more as a response? Or did you peg me as a troll for attempting to provide something tangible for the OP in the form of a checklist instead of a well written response?

Can we move on now and continue helping the OP find meaningful things to do instead of attacking specific responses, and each other for that matter?

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Like playing Assassins Creed or trolling IGN Stories about how awesome Suckrim is? In other words, not logging on XIV?

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Whatever it makes things fun, it doesn't care if you log in the game. If you find it fun then do it =)

wait...

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Use your imagination and do something you might consider fun =)

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Hmmm... what might I consider fun...

Sorry I already did that. :(

In game I have:

Played hide-and-seek
Participated in LS scavenger hunt (that was a blast. :D)
Had a DPS contest (who can kill X mob the fastest?)
Had a Big Game Hunt (Morbol r72 pwned)

In other words... anything BUT current SE provided content is fun...

Ifrit is fun... until you haven't had a drop in 30 kills. Then it stops being fun. :(

Getting aethers was fun, but then I got them all...

Now I'm just tring to get all the Guild Token Achievements before they're lost... so I'm using all my leves for that...

I only log in for leves now. Not much else. (Yes I'm playing something else if I have no leves.)

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Hmmm... what might I consider fun...

Sorry I already did that. :(

In game I have:

Played hide-and-seek
Participated in LS scavenger hunt (that was a blast. :D)
Had a DPS contest (who can kill X mob the fastest?)
Had a Big Game Hunt (Morbol r72 pwned)

In other words... anything BUT current SE provided content is fun...

Ifrit is fun... until you haven't had a drop in 30 kills. Then it stops being fun. :(

Getting aethers was fun, but then I got them all...

Now I'm just tring to get all the Guild Token Achievements before they're lost... so I'm using all my leves for that...

I only log in for leves now. Not much else. (Yes I'm playing something else if I have no leves.)

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This is what I mean when I say "think outside the box." Out of curiosity, have you found all the Purple Aetherite gates?

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Just because it's in the game doesn't mean it's worth doing.

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And we come to the problem -- You have stuff to do, you choose not to do things.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

This is what I mean when I say "think outside the box." Out of curiosity, have you found all the Purple Aetherite gates?

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You don't get anything for those. D=

After I'm finished with the Guild Token Achievements I'm going to go for all the Faction leves. But I'll only log in for LS events or leves. Nothing else is much worth it right now.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

And we come to the problem -- You have stuff to do, you choose not to do things.

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Just like the thousands if not; millions of people who chose not to support SE with this game.
As long as you guys are fine with it though, the problem is definitely with us.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

And we come to the problem -- You have stuff to do, you choose not to do things.

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no the problem is the lack of long lasting content that many people enjoy. The one thing about FFXI that i adored was that even from day one (or year one for the US) was that there was always something to do...and when it came to endgame...well that was far and above any game ive played. Most of the people interested in this game (or whats left) are FFXI players...and the 3 things we expected where 1) awesome story [solid here for sure, just little of it] 2) loads of long endgame variety [this game barely has any] and 3) challenge...especially when it comes to group things [were just barely seeing that lately]

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How to play LS scavenger hunt.

Get together a list of clues that will have a final result (a crafted item). Try to be as obscure as possible (tho you may want to put quotations around important parts of the clues.)

Post initial clue on the LS forums. That consists of an item and a location (Participants may ask questions about the clue that must be Yes/No questions). Example: Bring one of these 'lucky' limbs to a crimson maze

Plant "Linkshell GMs" around the world. The initial clue leads to the first GM who will provide the next clue (item and place) It also informs the players where they are in the game (think "The Amazing Race" You have x number of opponents ahead of you) Example: a player would bring a puk wing to the Red Labyrinth to receive the next clue.

The winner gets a rare item and some gil from the last LS GM. (In my example, the crafted item would be something anyone can craft (like wing glue) they would take wiing glue to the last GM.

Looking at AngryNixon's post, I mostly agree with what he has said.

I don't think the OP meant any offense in the "bored" comment.

Different folks have different things that satisfy them. It's like buying a magazine and only reading the front-page the articles, or reading celebrities you're stalk~errr-curious about. Or if you're flipping through and see "Child gets suspended for calling teacher 'cute'." Like whoa, what this about, then end up reading an article you normally wouldn't have. While you're flipping through, you might find other things to do like a crossword puzzle, a questionnaire, sample tax forms to fill out, and the like, but once you have read what you wanted and glanced at everything else, you close the magazine and hopefully look forward for the next issue.

One could breathe new life into the same magazine by sharing the articles with friends. One could go through the magazine again and look at articles they glossed over or started reading and didn't take interest too the first time. See what the photos look like upside down. Sketch something. Make up stories for candid photo expressions. Make new headlines with a pair of scissors and tape and mish-mash the photos.

But if the person feels like they're forcing themselves to do something they normally wouldn't do just to make the most of the magazine in their hands, it may be difficult to find it interesting or enjoyable. They wait for the next issue or read another magazine brand of similar interest in the meantime.

Me personally, if you hand me a pen and paper and told me, "have fun" ~ well, couldn't guarantee that I would have fun, but I would find something to do with it for an extended period of time. That's just me. And heck, seeing Sephrick, if you give him a line that sits well, he can give you a song!

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Give this a try, you might like it.

http://files.myopera.com/zomg/blog/outsidecj0.jpg

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Funny, except for the "Incredible NPC AI" part.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

And we come to the problem -- You have stuff to do, you choose not to do things.

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What's the point in collecting Aetheryte Gates that we have no purpose in visiting and won't be in the game in 2.0?

If I'm doing something in a game just because it's "something to do" I'm going to log off and do something more productive or entertaining.

The bigger issue is that they're going to start charging us in January for what? Permission to make our own fun in their playground?

I don't want to have shell out $10 to make up scavenger hunts and hide and go seek events. I can do that for free in real life. I want to be engaged by real content that pertains to the world Square designed.

I only hope SE had the sense to design some long term achievements.

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Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Every time someone says they are bored, check their profile ;)

Unfinished Quests
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You've got lots to do I see ;)

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My Godness!!! Holy Dragoon thank you so much for posting that link!!
I just realized what exactly I have to do and which quest I still need to finish!!

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Give this a try, you might like it.

http://files.myopera.com/zomg/blog/outsidecj0.jpg

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No. I saw someone jumping and it ruined my immersion.

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Originally Posted by Fanzeron

My Godness!!! Holy Dragoon thank you so much for posting that link!!
I just realized what exactly I have to do and which quest I still need to finish!!

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I use http://xivpads.com to track my quests, but I will check this other one out... Thanks.

I personally love to cross things off my list, visiting all the gates isn't pointless for me.

I think if many people wanted a game where you would have to think outside of the box...they would just play the "IRL" game. That has lots of things to do outside of the box...typically for free...like going to build a mud castle in the back yard...pretend you are a chef cooking up grass...(wow I think I feel like a parent now...moving onto other adult things to do outside the box)...that's free...hanging out watching tv with friends...or playing cards with friends....hanging out with your S/O and...well....doing S/O things.

I play a video game to get away from the "IRL" game. I just need a break from it...not go to another game to only be reminded of it. That is just me though...and I have a strange feeling that maybe many people as well?or not. /shrug.

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I think if many people wanted a game where you would have to think outside of the box...they would just play the "IRL" game. That has lots of things to do outside of the box...typically for free...like going to build a mud castle in the back yard...pretend you are a chef cooking up grass...(wow I think I feel like a parent now...moving onto other adult things to do outside the box)...that's free...hanging out watching tv with friends...or playing cards with friends....hanging out with your S/O and...well....doing S/O things.

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Yeah but then that infant bug occurs and slowly drains any bank account you open.

silly! play/do something else until they release more things you'd like to do.^^

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Originally Posted by Fanzeron

My Godness!!! Holy Dragoon thank you so much for posting that link!!
I just realized what exactly I have to do and which quest I still need to finish!!

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Unsure if troll. Reserving judgement. You're welcome, hope it helps for those who are completionists.

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Unsure if troll. Reserving judgement. You're welcome, hope it helps for those who are completionists.

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Rest assured, I am not trolling you. Even this late, there are still a lot of players (myself included) that don't know many things about the game. Even many FFXIV fansites that may seem popular to most players, are brand news for a lot of us.

Also, thanks to you too, Yelta, the more info we have to cross-check our quest list, the better. Afterall, aren't most of us players completionists? It's in our nature, damn it!

Btw, I'm also glad that, as usual, even if a thread may seem useless at first, there is always quite a bit of useful information hidden in it!;)

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Originally Posted by Fanzeron

Rest assured, I am not trolling you. Even this late, there are still a lot of players (myself included) that don't know many things about the game. Even many FFXIV fansites that may seem popular to most players, are brand news for a lot of us.

Also, thanks to you too, Yelta, the more info we have to cross-check our quest list, the better. Afterall, aren't most of us players completionists? It's in our nature, damn it!

Btw, I'm also glad that, as usual, even if a thread may seem useless at first, there is always quite a bit of useful information hidden in it!;)

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Ah fair enough then :) Just grab your CICUID off of Lodestone and plug it in. That site is one of the better ones, and not just for quest tracking. It contains a full item database, one I hope is updated in 1.20! The other self-tracking site I recommend is http://www.xivpads.com

And yes, there is good info in a lot of threads. There's also a lot of... not so good information. ;)

When something like card game and PvP will be released, it will make only good. These two things are long-life content, because it's interact (PvP) in both cases. You can do DH or Ifrit once, twice, three times.. 10x in the final it will be the same every time. However -PvP is different every time, thats why I call this long-life content and game should focus on things like this in the future and till v 2.0 since now. (Ok, card game is too much for now, so I hope devs will at lest focus greatly on PvP in common beside, story, pve and systems should still be major priority).

Everyone should play Outside. It requires no downloads!

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Give this a try, you might like it.

http://files.myopera.com/zomg/blog/outsidecj0.jpg

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