900/900 only 2 dungeons to farm?

Just call it what it really is. Expert Coin Toss

It's been a coin flip ever since HW launched. I really don't know why they decided to stick with that and just rotate dungeons out instead of actually adding new dungeons to it.

But if you do all the dailies, do PvP, help other people with dungeons.. What's the issue? There are many activities that award Lore and I end up capped by latest Saturday by just playing the game after I come home from work. Where did the idea that you have to farm these two dungeons in particular come from?

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Originally Posted by Daralii

It's been a coin flip ever since HW launched. I really don't know why they decided to stick with that and just rotate dungeons out instead of actually adding new dungeons to it.

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That's how it worked in ARR too though. The newest dungeon tier (there 3 of them) was expert roulette, and the earlier expert dungeons were cumulatively added to high roulette, when new tier arrived. It was exactly the same, except now there's only been 2 dungeons per tier.

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Originally Posted by Sida

That's how it worked in ARR too though.

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You're right - and folks complained mightily about it in ARR, as well. Because it was terrible. A selection of only three dungeons for the best Roulette? And then came Heavensward, and it got even WORSE, with just two dungeons.

Seriously, I hope that with the next expansion, SE puts more dungeons into Expert. It should include, at the very least, the new dungeons plus the previous set of dungeons - possibly even the previous TWO sets. Yeah, a selection of six dungeons in Expert Roulette would do a lot to reduce the monotony.

The best roulette should have best reward, no? However the dungeons of the previous tier have both, lower item level drops, as well as lower amount of tomes from the dungeon itself. When I run ex roulette, I'd feel shorted if I got any of the lower ones. The lower roulette is there for that, run that for variation. Just let the ex runners get the latest gear and best amount of tomes.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Seriously, I hope that with the next expansion, SE puts more dungeons into Expert. It should include, at the very least, the new dungeons plus the previous set of dungeons - possibly even the previous TWO sets. Yeah, a selection of six dungeons in Expert Roulette would do a lot to reduce the monotony.

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Hmm
expert rolette:
50 tomes reward
+100 tomes bonus reward if you get one of the newest dungeons of the patch.

Or do you think the older dungeons should give the same reward as the newest?

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Originally Posted by Sida

The best roulette should have best reward, no? However the dungeons of the previous tier have both, lower item level drops, as well as lower amount of tomes from the dungeon itself. When I run ex roulette, I'd feel shorted if I got any of the lower ones. The lower roulette is there for that, run that for variation. Just let the ex runners get the latest gear and best amount of tomes.

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It's frankly laughable to assume that the majority, or even a lot of players are there for the gear. Dungeon gear is added to the game ALREADY OBSOLETE. Even those few players who CAN use the gear, would benefit much more from the greater tomestone rewards than they would from the higher level gear - and if they really do need that higher level gear, they can always queue up for the dungeon outside of Roulette to get it.

No one should be farming the top level dungeon for equipment, unless they want that equipment for glamour, or to trade in for Grand Company points, or for an alt job - and in all of these cases, you're better off selecting the dungeon specifically rather than using Roulette, even under the current system.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Hmm
expert rolette:
50 tomes reward
+100 tomes bonus reward if you get one of the newest dungeons of the patch.

Or do you think the older dungeons should give the same reward as the newest?

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Yes. Because the newer dungeons do not present any additional difficulty compared to the older, so presenting similar rewards is perfectly in line. In fact, calling it "Expert Roulette" is already widely acknowledged as a joke - there's nothing "Expert" about any of them.

In the interests of greater variety, the previous set of dungeons (or even the previous two sets) should be part of the highest-rewarding Roulette.

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

Are there seriously no other alternatives than farming the two same god forsaken dungeons. I think I can do Xepha and the Library with my eyes closed.

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i stop using Expert Roulette and doing Soul of Creator/dun scaith/60 Roulette/Trial for farming 900 weekly limit
doing the same 2 dungeons everyday get bored very quick

I cap scriptures just by doing pvp 10 scriptures per match, 90 match every week and dont complain.

i know many endgame raiders cap really fast farming the current raid savage tier, 30 scripture per clear

900 is too low

Honestly, Expert roulette should be revamped to the following.

Include all current max level dungeons
Force minimum ILVL requirement
Total reward of 150 scripture regardless of which dungeon first time per day, 75 for repeated.

Expert should mean that it takes some skill to clear. Doing it at minimum ilvl would do just that. How can we call something an expert dungeon when it releases and a large portion of the playerbase outgears it by 20 ilvls from the getgo?

I like that expert roulette idea. It badly needs variety!

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

I like that expert roulette idea. It badly needs variety!

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Eh, just rename it "Daily Roulette" and people will stop complaining cause they'll realize the actual purpose of the roulette, the help casual players without a lot of time to get the weekly cap(When it's 450).

As for any complaints about it being harder to get 900, of course it's going to be harder. SE is being kind enough to give players the opportunity to catch up if they only started to play now, it's give and take, you want that 900 cap, you have to work harder to reach it compared to 450.

its not even harder honestly... consider that nearly everything you can farm will get you tombs as well... primales (ponys/birds), pvp and don't forget about Khloe... you might get another 300 tombs for clearing 1-2 lines in there per week as well. nothing changed beside the amount you can gather... .___.

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Originally Posted by Galborion

I guess some people simply dont want to do same thing every day.

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Then why are they running end-game content?
MMO's end-game content is nothing *but* doing the same thing every day...