Price Reduction =)

three dollars makes that big of deal to you people?
$13.00 was hardly a dent. $10.00 is the exact equivalent in my opinion. there literally is no difference as far as i see it.
id pay either price.

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Originally Posted by Orcishgrappler

I just think this is not a smart move for future success in the game. (people on this forum have a for every aspect or against every aspect mindset on here so sadly I have to set that up lol)

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Not to be rude, but I don't think they care. They are running a game that is currently bleeding money, yet they continue to run a company in the black. They have damn good financial advisers. They're giving the community a discount as it is. Also we have always known that extra characters were $3.00 extra. This is nothing new.

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Originally Posted by Victor

Also, 3$ per additional character is ludicrous. Is this their attempt to make up for the losses in reducing the base fee...?

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It has been that way since the beginning of time.

It also sounds like quite the stupid way to make up for losses since it is completely voluntary payment and no one here is going to need it to experience the game.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Well why raise a topic that is irrelevant. When they released XIV, they said you didn't need to make multiple characters because of the armory system. You shouldn't have to make multiple characters, that's your own problem.

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Relevance? Your topic is about Fees and I'm posting my opinion about part of the Fee. Don't see how that is irrelevant. I aprreciate that you don't think it matters and thats great for you ^^. But I wonder why make a post if you get irritated with anyone feeling not 100% the same way you do. Really seems odd to me.

Side point: I would pay 5$ extra a month if they make Puppetmaster in 2.0!!!! (Best class EVER! WAHOO!!)

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Originally Posted by Victor

The way the fees are presented is unsurprisingly convoluted (gg SE). I've read previous posts in this thread so I understand it now... At a glance, however, it appears they reduced the price from 12.99 to 9.99 and then once more to 6.99. At least these were my first confused and misled impressions... Also, 3$ per additional character is ludicrous. Is this their attempt to make up for the losses in reducing the base fee...?

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it was always $3.00 per character.
they always had it as two payments. your base and your character payment.
you can have no characters and still pay the base price with 0 access to the game.

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Originally Posted by Orcishgrappler

Relevance? Your topic is about Fees and I'm posting my opinion about part of the Fee. Don't see how that is irrelevant. I aprreciate that you don't think it matters and thats great for you ^^. But I wonder why make a post if you get irritated with anyone feeling not 100% the same way you do. Really seems odd to me.

Side point: I would pay 5$ extra a month if they make Puppetmaster in 2.0!!!! (Best class EVER! WAHOO!!)

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Because you said it's ridiculous that they charge us for extra character slots when they said YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING WITH ONE CHARACTER... geez.

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Originally Posted by Orcishgrappler

Relevance? Your topic is about Fees and I'm posting my opinion about part of the Fee. Don't see how that is irrelevant. I aprreciate that you don't think it matters and thats great for you ^^. But I wonder why make a post if you get irritated with anyone feeling not 100% the same way you do. Really seems odd to me.

Side point: I would pay 5$ extra a month if they make Puppetmaster in 2.0!!!! (Best class EVER! WAHOO!!)

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I would pay full sub if was the original FFXIV! ^^ (but for the current FFXIV...i'm not really sure)

Off-topic: Nice character name lol!

I easily have that $$$'s worth of fun a month so SE can have my money. Besides, I spend more than the 180 sub price in wine a month.

For the most part all they did was wave the Character Fee of $3 from the prices before, dolled the lodestone post to make it look like we paying less ( which we are ), then came and said look discounted price. When its all said and done what we really paying is the Basic Service Fee from Previously Announced Rates.

So in short... we are paying to use the servers, and our 1st char is free. I don't know you can dress up poo to make it look better but in the end it will still be poo. I feel they shoudl just get rid of the Character Fee and just make it the Basic Service Fee, till 2.0.

Still not fully happy with price, but I'll see how many of my friends staying to see if ima keep playing or wait till 2.0/ps3

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Originally Posted by Lienn

I would pay full sub if was the original FFXIV! ^^ (but for the current FFXIV...i'm not really sure)

Off-topic: Nice character name lol!

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lol thanks so much my first day in FF11 I got killed my a Orcishgrappler outside of Sandoria and I was like WOW that is so crazy! So I made my character name Orcishgrappler in ff11 and this game! This name will be with me forever ^^.

I don't know what I'm more amazed about. SE still adding fees per character, or keeping the retainter system after 2.0

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Originally Posted by DoomCky

For the most part all they did was wave the Character Fee of $3 from the prices before, dolled the lodestone post to make it look like we paying less ( which we are ), then came and said look discounted price. When its all said and done what we really paying is the Basic Service Fee from Previously Announced Rates.

So in short... we are paying to use the servers, and our 1st char is free. I don't know you can dress up poo to make it look better but in the end it will still be poo. I feel they shoudl just get rid of the Character Fee and just make it the Basic Service Fee, till 2.0.

Still not fully happy with price, but I'll see how many of my friends staying to see if ima keep playing or wait till 2.0/ps3

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Fail to see how i'm paying 12.99. If my basic 1st grade math is correct. 12.99 - 3.00 = 9.99

No one is forcing anybody to play with multiple characters (this isn't WoW). It's a discount, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

I would pay full sub if was the original FFXIV! ^^ (but for the current FFXIV...i'm not really sure)

Off-topic: Nice character name lol!

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super off topic

batman II > the dark knight

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Originally Posted by DoomCky

For the most part all they did was wave the Character Fee of $3 from the prices before, dolled the lodestone post to make it look like we paying less ( which we are ), then came and said look discounted price. When its all said and done what we really paying is the Basic Service Fee from Previously Announced Rates.

So in short... we are paying to use the servers, and our 1st char is free. I don't know you can dress up poo to make it look better but in the end it will still be poo. I feel they shoudl just get rid of the Character Fee and just make it the Basic Service Fee, till 2.0.

Still not fully happy with price, but I'll see how many of my friends staying to see if ima keep playing or wait till 2.0/ps3

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lol this is 100% what I'm saying. I want this game to do REALLY great in 2.0 and every detail matters. I really hope they will go back to 1$ per character or give x amount for free to keep up with the competition. ^^

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I don't know what I'm more amazed about. SE still adding fees per character, or keeping the retainter system after 2.0

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Neither of which are unreasonable in the slightest? You constantly amaze me these days Corrderio.

Would have liked to see a six dollar total subscription. But this just means I'll pop in at patch dates to pay instead of a consecutive subscription.

On a side note. Being told to pay three dollars for a character slot when other MMO's have a zero dollar fee, is really a slap in the face. I get that we can be "EVERY" class, but its a huge "am I really paying for this?" Just put it in the regular subscription instead and open up character slots. Makes everyone happy.

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Originally Posted by Yelta_Sumasu

I easily have that $$$'s worth of fun a month so SE can have my money. Besides, I spend more than the 180 sub price in wine a month.

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this is what im saying.
your MMO is is a specific luxury. unless your already subscribing to more than 1 MMO i dont see the need to worry so much about the discount or the fee in general.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Neither of which are unreasonable in the slightest? You constantly amaze me these days Corrderio.

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Funny, most MMOs I've played never charged me for extra characters, or used such an ass backwards concept for a market system.

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Originally Posted by Orcishgrappler

lol this is 100% what I'm saying. I want this game to do REALLY great in 2.0 and every detail matters. I really hope they will go back to 1$ per character or give x amount for free to keep up with the competition. ^^

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Trust me i want the game to great too, and I want to keep playing but its just the principal of paying for a game, that where it shoudl be at this time. + the unknown of how amny ppl will be aroudn and if any of the new contect will be able to be played if ppl arnt around.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Funny, most MMOs I've played never charged me for extra characters, or used such an ass backwards concept for a market system.

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Funny, most MMOs don't allow a character to play and max every single job.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Funny, most MMOs I've played never charged me for extra characters, or used such an ass backwards concept for a market system.

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Funny, most MMO's forced extra characters down my throat to be able to experience the whole game, instead of having it as a vanity option at best. How's that for ass-backwards?

But of course you failed to mention that little detail.

Oh, and the fact that market system =/= retainers, especially post 2.0. It's a name of a system that could be anything. Just like the Marketplace we will have after 1.20 is the exact same Marketplace we had in September last year, amirite?

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Funny, most MMOs I've played never charged me for extra characters, or used such an ass backwards concept for a market system.

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since this game does not allow one character to experience each story line it means 1 character cannot do everything in game.
also, many people care a great deal for playing different races due to all of their visual aesthetics (animations, physical looks, some gear is displayed differently on different races)
therefore, i have no idea why it is necessary to charge per character.
if its to minimize RMT characters, why not make free characters a fixed amount? RMT characters will forever and ever exist in every MMO regardless of any steps taken.
3 free characters sounds more than fair to me.

Only a three dollar discount? And billing commences one month from today? They expect too much, too soon.

I could justify $5 a month to cover GM services and server costs, but I can't bring myself to pay $10 a month for this for the next year.

I pray 1.20 changes my mind, but given the fact we still haven't had that 'miracle patch', I'm not holding my breath.

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Only a three dollar discount? And billing commences one month from today? They expect too much, too soon.

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They expect more revenue out of this game than they have obtained for the past year.

I think this discount will meet said expectations. It's kind of hard not to.

Discount looks great.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Only a three dollar discount? And billing commences one month from today? They expect too much, too soon.

I could justify $5 a month to cover GM services and server costs, but I can't bring myself to pay $10 a month for this for the next year.

I pray 1.20 changes my mind, but given the fact we still haven't had that 'miracle patch', I'm not holding my breath.

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Actually, I'm seeing it $30 for six months which is effectively $5 a month :D

I think 9.99$ until 2.0 is reasonable price :D
For everyone that think why they ask for 3$ per new char, I think it because SE need to reserve database for that new char so that's the monthly cost of the service. but yeah, compare to other MMO, 3$ per month for new char is way too much.

Btw, the good side of this 3$ per new char is...the market ward will lot more space available :D

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Originally Posted by Holland

Discount looks great.



Actually, I'm seeing it $30 for six months.

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It's 47.94 for 6 months casue of the char fee

I started to post a lot of different things, but then I decided that all I am giving this thread is a MASSIVE, extended eyeroll.
All I can say is that I welcome the discounted fee. That means the pointless forum bitching will be cut in half.

So yeah, +1

(Also, totally support paying an extra 5 for Puppetmaster. Do. Freakin. Want)

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here... but man, the inability to purchase extra retainers is gonna hit me pretty hard... gears for all the class + mats for crafting + materia + food + sale inventory is not gonna fit in a scant 530 space :(

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Originally Posted by DoomCky

It's 47.94 for 6 months casue of the char fee

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Aye. I'm like SE, I count the char fees separate =p

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Originally Posted by Cyan

I started to post a lot of different things, but then I decided that all I am giving this thread is a MASSIVE, extended eyeroll.
All I can say is that I welcome the discounted fee. That means the pointless forum bitching will be cut in half.

So yeah, +1


(Also, totally support paying an extra 5 for Puppetmaster. Do. Freakin. Want)

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YEAH!!! Puppetmasters unite!!! Whaoo!

They reduce the price( which your guys are lucky that they are) and your still not satisfied.. Well when you been getting Candy for free this whole time... it becomes an addictive habit eh? Well, time to start chewing the Nicotine gum.. cuz its going to be a heck of a ride for ya all :P. bahaha

so $50 for 6 months plan? sounds good to me

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

so $50 for 6 months plan? sounds good to me

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Heck, I already have 60 bucks worth of Cryta points at my disposal so why not! :D

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

What possible reason is there to have more than one character in FFXIV? Unless you want a mule...and that's what retainers are for.

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In WoW, you can have 50 characters for $14.99 a month. On different servers, no less. Put each one on a different server, if you want. You are only limited to 10 per server, for a total of 50.

It would be nice to play with different friends on different servers.

25% off for 1/2 a game. Pass. Math just doesnt add up.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

In WoW, you can have 50 characters for $14.99 a month. On different servers, no less. Put each one on a different server, if you want. You are only limited to 10 per server, for a total of 50.

It would be nice to play with different friends on different servers.

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I wish SE had some sort of plan for this, like a server cluster system or something.

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Originally Posted by Biggs

25% off for 1/2 a game. Pass. Math just doesnt add up.

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1.19= 50%
1.20= 65% ( give or take a percentage or 2 going up or down)

I say the math adds up just well Math isn't not always on the dot ya know :P

My personal feeling is half complete game, half the service fee.
I'm just not willing to pay a company to make a game, it would
be about the same as watching half a movie, and paying 75% of
the ticket price in the hopes that the rest of the movie will be made.

Right now, there is no guaranty from SE that the game will be reach
2.0. They have instead implied the exact opposite, that they can't
finish the game without us paying, and only if there are enough paying.

Right now even free to play the player numbers continue to dwindle.
Sorry but SE needs to learn that MMOs cost a lot of time and money to
produce. Cutting corners and rushing development results in an inferior
product that no one wants.

I don't see this product making it to 2.0 and have already wasted $50,
I'm not going to throw good money after bad, as they say. Good luck
to SE with their next project.

Cool, Less than half a day worth of work, I get 180d/6m worth of playtime? Well looks like tomorrow when I go to work, half of it is going to one of the 180d/6m and the other half my day at work I'll get another 180d/6m work of playtime. Who knew one day worth of work will last me till 2.0! Yeah... I went there...