It's well known some people need high incentives to want to do anything in an MMO, which is why it's such a blurry concept on what "end-game" content is, let alone content in general, it's not a side event, it's content. If it started pumping out +199 stat bodies I bet people will be all over this "side event" in a heart beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanfire
Only "content" we getting 1.20 is moogle fight?
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12-03-2011, 02:29 AMJennestia
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12-03-2011, 03:08 AMZanfirereguardless its short and repetitive, which makes people not care about it. Even with some crazy reward (which people would question why it does and be confused and pissed on that alone) people would get sick of it, or only do it purely because it gave something too good to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
In FFXI people got really into besieged because it was a fun and unique event, even though the rewards stunk. -
12-03-2011, 03:31 AMIStolzI
I think it's funny people still use the word "endgame" to describe content that's accessible after 2 weeks of starting. Pretty sure it's just the regular game at this point lol.
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12-03-2011, 05:25 AMMoonbringer
over 300 achievements with rewards?? surely they will keep you busy to 1.21 at least? Or are they something that you dont see as content?
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12-03-2011, 05:32 AMMajidah
fock content, give me system changes. seriously. I still haven't killed ifrit yet and I'm not even excited about it. pop up windows for party invites? that makes me giddy
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12-03-2011, 07:00 AMCroySeriously, they have mentioned the achievements system is different from a lot of MMO's and that actual rewards are going to be given based around them. This part IS content and should be counted as such. Think of them as goals with rewards rather then just number like it is in most games. Will the rewards be substantial and worth it? We will know come patch, but don't discount it just because of how its been done in other games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbringer
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12-03-2011, 07:39 AMMoonbringer
completely agree from what i have read the more achievements you get the greater the reward :D
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12-03-2011, 08:55 AMBittereye
Yes the only content is the stupid moogle battle, rest are changes to game mechanics.. not content. Check back in February.. or better yet check back when 2.0 hits because the rest of these patches are going to be crap in a bucket of crap until then..
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12-03-2011, 09:21 AMZanfireachievements, though a nice touch, should never be a main focus of "content"....because its not anything other then having people spend a ton of time re-doing things. They should be constantly added, but never a focus to where people have to consider it "one of the big pieces of content".Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbringer
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12-03-2011, 11:00 AMMoonbringer
see thats the thing... I doubt im the only person who feels that the Ifrit and Darkhold areas are fun to take part in but personally i completed them more to get the quest complete. I was never worried too much about getting all the equipment from them because eventually they would be replaced by better equipment as time goes on. This achievement system is something im really looking forward to and for me on this occasion the moogle battle is the lesser content ^^
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12-03-2011, 10:36 PMBurn
Can't wait until the achievement system brings grief play just like WoW's did when it was new. :D
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12-04-2011, 05:43 AMCrstyCaptin
Can't call any of the stuff before 2.0 content. More like filler or fluff for those who hang around. Personally having one NM added doesn't really strike me as content. Something like tiered fighting similar to sky,sea, salvage, limbus, etc. seems more like content to me and we certainly won't have anything like that until 2.0. Hamlet defenses and some new dungeons would give you something to do but will probably be replaced by the next 'content' patch anyway. No reason to cry about it as the team is forking out these patches to fix the foundation of the game which is really all that's important at this time. Look at the last 'content' patch we had with darkhold. Who actually runs that anymore with all the strongholds now? Or with ifrit? The gear from strongholds are far better and you can even xp 40+ doing it. No reason to spend excess resources on 'content' that will get scrapped.
I for one can't wait for stupid things to get patched like a delivery box, 8 trade slots, stupid lag between menus. How about changing my gear when I change my class? Making food useful to fix culinary and give people a reason to fish again. The list goes on for a while and almost all of it they said they're working on or fixing. What more do you want from them? The game failed and they're fixing it but it doesn't happen over night. 2.0 will be the deciding factor. Until then the only reason to stick around now is to 'get ahead' or 'bragging rights' that you stuck the game out or of course just to play with friends though server populations are dwindling still.
1.20 will be pretty interesting. I'm not happy that they're totally removing debuffs and THM doesn't even get a cure type spell but we'll see how it works. It'll be interesting for everyone to relearn their classes and see how the game flows now. Not happy about the pay to play and might take a break myself but we all knew it was coming eventually. Not like they're going to hold out until 2.0 for payment. -
12-04-2011, 06:03 AMnormalforceWhat's grief play? I'm not sure what it means in this context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn
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12-04-2011, 06:41 AMquantumsaintI never really played WoW aside from the trial a couple times, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's referring to the gear rating index people started being elitist about after it was implemented. If your gear score wasn't up to par, you would get the boot or denied a spot in whatever raid that people were putting a group together for. Again, not 100%. Someone correct me if I'm wrong or tell me if that's correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by normalforce