I expected absolutely nothing and was still disappointed with Ultima.

Got the proto Ultima fight and Relic done in about an hour tonight...so back to PvP for the rest of the week till Diadem yup yup.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

The patch was split in two parts due to a bug in the new Diadem. Proto-Ultima at Dun Scaith might be a temporary stop gap and the weekly may change with the release of Diadem.

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I hope so, started DL when i got up, read the patch notes, dl finished, checked input here and just exitted the game

7 days right? I only really care about story at this point. was hoping on more of that.

It doesn't even feel like there was a patch today, just feels like a normal reset day.

I really find a great fight and boss, i don't mind it replace the Succ.

So, where do you get the quest to do Ultima?

EDIT: Since no one posted it. You get the quest Unidentified Flying Object in Idyllshire by the goblin melder.

The only thing I can find even mildly entertaining is what Proto Ultima must have done to that poor succubus.

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And well... case in point. Blame it on what? False advertising? Translation error? Misguided hype?

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Unreasonable expectations?

Wow...talk about disappointment...

Between this..."24 man raid" and the cash shop stuff I dunno anymore. Really dunno what to say :/

For the first time since 1.0 launch I am questioning to keep playing if we can expect this kind of misdirection with stormblood.

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Unreasonable expectations?

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Did anyone really expect Proto-Ultima to be a trash mob we down in like 90 seconds? There's unreasonable expectations and there's a waste of time. Guess which one PU falls under.

So basically, you activate the quest in Idyllshire, go to Dun Scaith, face Proto-Ultima and get a free 270 accessory? Do you get to choose the accessory? I mean, my main is PLD but I play 24-man as DRG to shorten queue times.

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

The only thing I can find even mildly entertaining is what Proto Ultima must have done to that poor succubus.

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Considering her low self-worth (unfit to cower in the queens shadow) she probably just tore off her own wings and jumped off the island, leaving an empty circular arena for Pultima to occupy.
If the handmaiden was still around to watch us faceroll him, she'd proabably feel a bit better about herself ^^

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So basically, you activate the quest in Idyllshire, go to Dun Scaith, face Proto-Ultima and get a free 270 accessory? Do you get to choose the accessory? I mean, my main is PLD but I play 24-man as DRG to shorten queue times.

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You get a token to pass in for the weekly and you pick your accessory from a list. There's also a glamour armor as well that anyone can wear.

Just be grateful you didn't have to pay for access in the mog station ;)

Please...just remove this awful fight SE and add it when you can actually make it less of a faceroll -_-

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Please...just remove this awful fight SE and add it when you can actually make it less of a faceroll -_-

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They weren't even going to add it at all, people asked for it during the fanfests. It was a fun thing they made for the people who attended.

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Originally Posted by Parisstilton

Just be grateful you didn't have to pay for access in the mog station ;)

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Dont give them any ideas!

Odin was an actual fight why can't this be?

Less and less content in HW continues won't be surprised if we end up at one dungeon per patch cycle and the 2nd will end up on mog station

SE doesn't owe anyone anything. Who cares if it's easy? If it was difficult-- ppl would just complain about that, until someone found a way to skip a mechanic that was causing problems then all you would see is "must be able to skip Proto Ultima sonic ardor blast or disband" etc. Honestly-- all the complaints in this thread make people sound super entitled. Some fights are amazing. Some are not. Move on folks.

What I find funny is that on Sunday someone in alliance chat said: "Did that fight(Handmaiden) last longer than the boss fight(Ferdiad) we just did?" and yet what we got is this?! a fight thats over before you know it.

it went from a hyped up 1st ever 24-man trial to a 2min trash mob

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed that it's just a miniboss in existing content rather than its own thing. It's free 270 stuff either way, but it could have been more.

All I want to know is do u still get weekly coin and dun scathe drops and this

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All I want to know is do u still get weekly coin and dun scathe drops and this

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Yes. /10char

I'd have been ok with SE pulling a Brayflox on this one. Reduce the Handmaidens max HP by 50% so she doesn't last as long, and then when she's almost dead have P-Ultima drop down and frag her before turning on us

I'm surprised there haven't been any complaint threads over the relic being too easy yet.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I'm surprised there haven't been any complaint threads over the relic being too easy yet.

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Why? This step being easy doesn't negate the previous work; and the final step of ARR relic wasn't far off this round's difficulty either.

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Why? This step being easy doesn't negate the previous work; and the final step of ARR relic wasn't far off this round's difficulty either.

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Because people are complaining Ultima was too easy. I bet if the Relic was super hard people would be crying all over the forums about it. No one is ever satisfied.

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I'm surprised there haven't been any complaint threads over the relic being too easy yet.

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Neither was the 2.4 relic last step. It's a sort of victory round for all the hard work we did.

Just when I thought SE couldn't make any stupider decisions, they pull this stunt. They really never cease to amaze me.

Honestly only thing keeping me here right now is my static. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time and assume they're trying to tide people over until SB releases, but I see anything like this occurring in SB then that'll be it for me. I'll start looking for new games to play in the mean time.

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Because people are complaining Ultima was too easy. I bet if the Relic was super hard people would be crying all over the forums about it. No one is ever satisfied.

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I'm not even sure how to put into words how terrible a comparison that is.

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People are more upset about the lazy application of Ultima. People expected a separate 24 man trial. Not them just slapping him in a pre-made dungeon. They could have been creative with it but sadly they dropped the ball hard. They could have just saved the development time, if they are going half do something. They could have just added in accessories to the dungeon and called it a day. I have a question. Why is Ultima even there? What is the lore behind it?

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I'm not even sure how to put into words how terrible a comparison that is.

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Lmao you made me laugh so hard. Thank you

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People are more upset about the lazy application of Ultima. People expected a separate 24 man trial. Not them just slapping him in a pre-made dungeon. They could have been creative with it but sadly they dropped the ball hard. They could have just saved the development time, if they are going half do something. They could have just added in accessories to the dungeon and called it a day. I have a question. Why is Ultima even there? What is the lore behind it?

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i think its just a prototype of the ultima from 2.0 that got loose and went after anything trying to eat aether

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I'm surprised there haven't been any complaint threads over the relic being too easy yet.

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Because we were told the final step would be a "victory lap", which it certainly is. Unlike with Ultima we got what we were expecting.

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I'm not even sure how to put into words how terrible a comparison that is.

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My point was people beg for thing to be hard, and then when they are hard, they beg for them to be easy. And then when they are easy, they beg for them to be hard. See live letter question regarding difficulty, and Yoshi-Ps reaction.

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Because we were told the final step would be a "victory lap", which it certainly is. Unlike with Ultima we got what we were expecting.

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Iunno, I did Ultima at the fanfest, and its pretty much as expected. The only change they made to Odin was the removal of the ability to silence Einharjar. People expecting Zurvan out of this were being unrealistic.

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Iunno, I did Ultima at the fanfest, and its pretty much as expected. The only change they made to Odin was the removal of the ability to silence Einharjar. People expecting Zurvan out of this were being unrealistic.

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I think there's a rather massive gap between expecting Zurvan and getting a trash mob that's easier than the one it replaced. Seriously. I had an average group that subsequently wiped to Scathach and we still rolled over PU is like 90 seconds.

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Iunno, I did Ultima at the fanfest, and its pretty much as expected. The only change they made to Odin was the removal of the ability to silence Einharjar. People expecting Zurvan out of this were being unrealistic.

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You cannot compare the two, Odin is leaps and bounds better with his own storyline, and a visually and mechanically interesting fight at its release.


For Pultima, The setting is different, he doesn't really fit there as a boss, and he is being manhandled by players well past his difficulty. At the least, people were expecting a trial, a proper battle. You don't advertise for trash mobs.

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Iunno, I did Ultima at the fanfest, and its pretty much as expected. The only change they made to Odin was the removal of the ability to silence Einharjar. People expecting Zurvan out of this were being unrealistic.

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I thought there were more changes for Odin? I wasn't at any of the fanfests (digital for HW atleast) but from what I know Odin was atleast harder then the Fanfest version with the inability to Silence being just one reason why.

I also wasn't expecting Ultima to be the hardest thing ever. Just not on the level of trash mobs.

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i think its just a prototype of the ultima from 2.0 that got loose and went after anything trying to eat aether

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Oh ok thank you. Hmmm I saw on Reddit an idea that maybe it will change dungeons every week and pop up in the other 24 man. Based on your explanation maybe it's possible.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

I thought there were more changes for Odin? I wasn't at any of the fanfests (digital for HW atleast) but from what I know Odin was atleast harder then the Fanfest version with the inability to Silence being just one reason why.

I also wasn't expecting Ultima to be the hardest thing ever. Just not on the level of trash mobs.

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The only other reason it was hard was because i100 gear and we didnt have much time to set up hotbars. Rotations were kinda flubbed.

Phew, I was worried that this patch might take away some of my time from no-lifing the Revelation Online open beta. Thank god I worried for nothing!