My thoughts on the community recently

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I could have bipolar disorder for all you know. Not cool.

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Not that it entirely excuses poor social conduct, but do you suffer from bipolar disorder?

Because, y'know, it's even less cool to try and use a mental disorder as a justification when you don't even have said disorder to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Kinkoz

Not that it entirely excuses poor social conduct, but do you suffer from bipolar disorder?

Because, y'know, it's even less cool to try and use a mental disorder as a justification when you don't even have said disorder to begin with.

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I dont think that's what they were getting at. They're just saying be mindful.

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Originally Posted by Yasuhiro

I dont think that's what they were getting at. They're just saying be mindful.

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By that logic, I could do mental gymnastics to make excuses for anyone and everyone's behavior to absolve them of any sort of criticism and disagreement whatsoever.

My point is, I don't have enough care or energy to expend upon guessing every given person's circumstances or conditions. And even if they do possess some form of disability, it doesn't always excuse their social conduct. There's a difference between understanding someone else's problems and granting them a little bit of leeway for it, and outright absolving them of any offense whatsoever merely based upon the fact that they suffer from a condition.

Its also worth questioning the % of forum goers vs the in game population. Im not too aware of what the actual proportions are, but one would assume.......

It's not playing victim if I legitimately feel attacked, it's not playing victim if I asked you to stop doing something multiple times, it's not playing victim. All I wanted was to make a thread encouaraging more positivity, but look where that has gone.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's not playing victim if I legitimately feel attacked, it's not playing victim if I asked you to stop doing something multiple times, it's not playing victim. All I wanted was to make a thread encouaraging more positivity, but look where that has gone.

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Maybe because you've established a track record of hypocrisy for yourself? As a general rule, people don't tend to look kindly upon those who say one thing and then do another thing entirely, especially when they complain about the very thing they're guilty of doing themselves.

Not to mention the fact that you started a thread complaining about complaining. That, in and of itself, is laughable enough.

My suggestion to you would be to take (or completely ignore, it's up to you) the criticisms and move on instead of continuing to try and defend yourself on this particular position.

Posting on another complaining about complaining thread.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's not playing victim if I legitimately feel attacked, it's not playing victim if I asked you to stop doing something multiple times, it's not playing victim. All I wanted was to make a thread encouaraging more positivity, but look where that has gone.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

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You should leave such things in the hands of the moderators. That's what they are there for. If someone is being needlessly aggressive in any given thread and breaching the terms of service then feel free to make use of the report function. If the moderators deem it to be a breach of the forum's rules then they'll deal with it as they see fit.

You also may mean well but for many people you're just preaching to the choir. FFXIV's forum community really isn't that bad. It isn't perfect, sure, but when people step out of line they're usually dealt with. What you seem to be objecting to, however, is people posting anything contrary to the narrative you're trying to push. If you post something on a site such as this then people are going to post their own thoughts in response. They may say things you disagree with, they may question your motives or raise an eyebrow at perceived contradictions. That's not really against the rules unless it enters 'personal attack' territory. Not everybody is out to get you.

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Originally Posted by Kinkoz

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Like I said, they were implying be mindful. You're reading way too deep into this.
Now, where are my sweet sweet tasty likes?

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Originally Posted by Atoli

Complaints and requests are always gonna be on the forefront, no matter how good the game is and how friendly the community.
Barely anyone comes to the forum only to say "I'm so happy here! I never need anything new ever again!". People usually come because they have an issue.

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Pretty much this. I used to work at a call center for credit card servicing. People typically don't call just to talk, they call only if they have a problem and want to change the way the company runs a specific service. As much as I think the forums are optimal for showing the best and worst of the community, this right here is the reason why.

Nothing creates negativity faster than the people who tell you to ignore your own issues and opinions for the sake of their happy positive illusion.

Although the OP is being a hypocrite I see their point. When we have 10+ threads all on the PvP chat drowning out other problems in the game. The reason the JP gets ideas and feedback implemented/fixed is cause they use their brains and make 1 thread and like an idea if they agree.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Although the OP is being a hypocrite I see their point. When we have 10+ threads all on the PvP chat drowning out other problems in the game. The reason the JP gets ideas and feedback implemented/fixed is cause they use their brains and make 1 thread and like an idea if they agree.

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While this is true; this has been the case and observed as such for years, and is likely a cultural issue that isn't likely to change/stop on a game forum.

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Originally Posted by Seig345

While this is true; this has been the case and observed as such for years, and is likely a cultural issue that isn't likely to change/stop on a game forum.

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It's also a Japanese game. So naturally the Japanese market/community is going to be catered to more easily and be understood.

I'd also argue that even when concerns are both valid and kept to a specific thread here on this board that doesn't necessarily mean anything is going to come of them - even when it's something as serious as the botched EU promotion for the Maid/Butler attire and related items. Many EU players - myself included - are still waiting on a fix for that particular issue, or at least an explanation as to why so many European players ended up missing out on something that was much, much more readily and easily available to Japanese and North American players.

The vast majority of replies in that thread were and continue to be respectful, too - but it's been months since we had an update despite how major the issue actually is.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

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The subject of whether our communications are getting through or being replied to is one I'm not ready to touch on; I was simply referring to the tendency on the NA english forums for one topic to have a superfluous amount of threads pop up. Effectiveness in reaching the devs aside, it makes the forums a bit more chaotic in and of itself.