If you win the DF lottery, you too can enjoy two healers who barely heal, don't DPS, and eat literally every mechanic in a11. That's half an hour of your life you ain't getting back. Pity the DPS that gets the prey mark cause they aren't going to do anything about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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01-10-2017, 10:53 AMNolLacnala
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01-10-2017, 04:47 PMUnderdog2204God I've lost count of how many times I've died to that... I enjoyed a nice response from one healer though was "It's easier to let you die". Ofc these healers couldn't keep people (or themselves) alive even without a weakness debuff xDQuote:
Originally Posted by NolLacnala
Ofc I read this as "Mechanics made for my role are too annoying to deal with".
Ooorrrr something I'm coming across alot lately, people actually moving and standing right next to me when I'm main tanking stuff then promptly getting themselves killed with Cleaves/Gazes etc. Had a MNK do this 3 times on Rahmu recently, I said specifically to stay away from me too. It astonishes me... -
01-10-2017, 05:32 PMMithrahnMaybe they thought you wanted company and were just being tsundere... /jQuote:
Originally Posted by Underdog2204
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01-10-2017, 05:42 PMIsalaIf they were truly good players, they wouldn't have noticed a barrier in the first place. They'd have already cleared it because it was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by aesteval
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01-10-2017, 08:26 PMaestevalIf they have to clear the barrier weekly, as what I quoted requested, they would notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isala
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01-10-2017, 08:51 PMCritical-LimitIf they "do what's minimally necessary" then revert back into a bad. At least they'll have the skill set needed to do something. And they may turn it up if they can't be carried.Quote:
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01-10-2017, 10:12 PMIlan
If you want to gate content with barriers like the bronze and silver stuff you will lose the players who are not good. But guess what, SE doesn't want to lose players because then they lose money and thats why they nerfed most stuff already.
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01-10-2017, 10:23 PMShaneDawn
Add parsers to the game and the DPS players finally have to get their shit together.
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01-10-2017, 10:48 PMZojhaSoon followed by DPS rotations being extremely simplified so you can get good DPS just mashing 2-3 buttons in order to solve discrimination issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaneDawn
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01-11-2017, 12:28 AMLineageRazor
Sounds like the OP seriously muddled the message he was trying to convey, by mixing it with the debate on Jump Potions.
What he's really asking for, is some kind of challenge or rite of passage that needs to be cleared before players can engage in endgame activities. Some kind of, "You must git this gud before you can ride this ride." A general purpose Faust.
Jump potions really have nothing to do with it; folks who think it's going to seriously harm the average quality of endgame gamers are dreaming. Heck, if anything, I'd say jump potions may actually INCREASE the proportions of serious hardcores in endgame; many if not most hardcore players I've interacted with have been pretty dismissive of the storyline, and would have been happy to skip it. They're here for the challenging fights, and don't really give a flip about WHY they're fighting. Now there's a way for hardcore endgamers who might otherwise be turned off by the main scenario slog to skip straight to the end.
I don't really think we need to put more obstacles in place of reaching endgame. Endgame has few enough members as it is. That said, I AM in favor of more challenging Main Scenario content. Final Steps of Faith (Normal) was a decent step in that direction. While not a serious challenge by endgame standards, it's not really something a pack of newbies can derp their way through. Just because content isn't "optional" doesn't mean it has to be a cakewalk. -
01-11-2017, 01:53 AMRaijinSupreme
Yall are really just trying to make things harder for new players to get into this game, just cause of your unfounded, and unreasonable fears that will not even matter a month after Stormblood releases.
It will only ultimately result in the demise of the game if we can not attract new players to this game, and decide to keep playing.
So scared that your experience will be ruined, you're even willing to risk the existence of the game in general.
Chill out. The new players, EVEN IF THEY USE A JUMP POTION, will eventually learn how to play! and if they don't, they will either leave, or they'll be just like alllllll the other people in this game that's been playing for years and still no nothing of their job rotations lol.
THE GAME ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE. at first, yes we will feel the affects of the jump potion. But a time, a short amount of time, no one will even be able to tell who used a jump potion and who didn't. -
01-11-2017, 02:29 AMThe_NPC
Jump potion or not, players without skill will eather be kicked by teams who require it or be left behind in their wake (cept in case's were they have conections to find "Clear" teams that let them leech their way, be it paid or otherwise).
Thou I doubt SE will add such a thing as a "Skill" check bar that isn't ilv they will (& have) added them mid-battle at many fights that take skill, dumb luck or higher ilv to beat which works fine at eather proving as an ephemeral Wall of the Novice Destroyer or a perplexing challenge to glory (which to me seams fine even if I never fought Savage Alex or old Coil at ilv, what I've herd & read they take great skill to clear barly geared which "World 1st's" do & I respect the grit it takes to acomplish... even if it seams like u'r smashing u'r head against a wall some times, with enouf hits every wall falls)