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I'm more interested to see inside the apartments, I'd hope they are more interesting than the FC rooms.

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Originally Posted by MistyMew

Apartments hopefully will be more then 1 room.... (a box is not creative or impressive ^^)

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Hopefully, but given the low price I don't have high expectations. For it to be a few rooms, like an actual apartment, I feel like they would have charged similar to a small house plot.

I can see I'm the minority here, but I really like decorating and customizing and basically emulating the Sims.

I have a house, and yes I'm going to sprint and get an apartment on day one as well. I'd even love one of each but I know that's not possible.

Yes, some players have alts (I don't) and exploit these features by selling the houses for ridiculous prices, but in other cases like myself, its not that I'm being unfair...the system is.

I have one alt on the same server as my main and I was thinking of getting my alt an apartment but looking at the amount of apartments there are I'm going to forget about the idea

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

When did they ever give a price on personal housing?

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It was long before they were even implanted back when they were creating hype for it like they're now with apartments. Back then, in a live letter, they said that personal houses would be 800k and in their own separate wards. Neither of which happened.

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Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron

The 512 number came from January's Live Letter iirc.

That was 8 months ago, they probably just couldn't do it

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More likely, the plan was 512 apartments per housing area, period... meaning 1536 apts total.
Now we get over 6000.

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Originally Posted by Kabzy

Hopefully, but given the low price I don't have high expectations. For it to be a few rooms, like an actual apartment, I feel like they would have charged similar to a small house plot.

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It will be around the size of a average 1-man japanese apartment, I guess

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Originally Posted by Lesan

Sounds harsh, but 'WTB'ers should be punished with the exact same punishments as sellers, since they create the demand in the first place.
And it should be a 'no matter what, accountwide loss of all non FC residence including assets inside' on top of any other punishment.

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Well if they WTB a house there is no house to take :p but i get the idea ^^
And i totally agree, I just hope that one day they add it in the TOS, of course no one reads it but then they would be a "no matter what" policy cause your supposed to read it and know it

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Originally Posted by Felis

It will be around the size of a average 1-man japanese apartment, I guess

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8 feet square ? ^^"

I had the hope that this review would show us the inside of the rooms..and not the buildings that we already know. :cool:

Some days before when someone wrote that there will be one in each ward and subdivision I was really hopeful and happy that we will get over 30k apartments which should be quite enough...and yet it seems that in the end my skeptic side won again..Why SE? Why do you allow people with a house to buy a apartment if you now only have 90 instead of 512 rooms per building? I wanted to have one too after I thought it will be over 30k but now I wont get it because I fear that homeless people will get nothing thanks to some people that already own multiple houses..Why not just instance those and give everyone a chance to own a apartment? This could have been your chance to finally provide everyone a room and yet you choose something limited again..And you also did not learn anything from the past and made no restriction for us house owners..

And why is this without a timer if its also something limited? Someone could buy multiple apartments through alts and never play again and wont loose them? But someone that owns a house but had to pay way more will loose it after those 45 days? How is that fair? :(

Its way easier and cheaper to get an apartment..so a lot more people will try to get one..and probably some of them will stop playing the game..those apartments are now lost forever if they dont delete their character..but its fair that a person that has put in maybe 50 million gil in a big house will loose it after 45 days? Yes its bigger and has a garden but it also costs way more than an apartment.

SE either use your demolition system on everything or dont use it at all..this is imo not fair..(I dislike the demolition..it would be way better if everybody could have the chance for a nice house...they just need to be instanced..)

Well as someone that owns a small house that is way to small for all those items I can now only wait for the moving feature...that I am not even sure will come..

I wasn't sure which apartment to go for, since I own/have full access to houses in each area, but "The Sultana's Breath"? I'm sold.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

Exactly my thoughts...

My prediction at patch day: All apartments will be sold out within a few hours. Party Finder will be full with "Want so sell apartment for 2 million gil".

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Well person can only own one apartment so like on Balmung they most likely will sell out right away so they will only be able to do it once (if they trying) and won't be able to go back and buy another apartment to sell cause they will be bought up already.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

"Each apartment building can house up to 90 tenants"

Shouldn't it be 512?

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with all the wards and sub division it'll be about 6,000 apartments so that's good enough in my book

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

"Each apartment building can house up to 90 tenants"

Shouldn't it be 512?

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Indeed, that was the first thing that caught my eye. All the information we'd been given til now said 512, including official statements (unless I am somehow remembering wrong). With 90 per ward/subdivision that only adds about 6500 apartments to each server, not nearly as many as we were led to believe.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

Exactly my thoughts...

My prediction at patch day: All apartments will be sold out within a few hours. Party Finder will be full with "Want so sell apartment for 2 million gil".

How many apartments do we get? 90 per ward? 270 in total?

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Where you learn to do math? 90 pre Ward 180 for both many and sub, x12 wards = 2160 pre town x3 = 6480 pre server. And that just to start, we know they will add more befor 4.0.

If it's only 90 per building, then I think we need a big fat community PSA strongly urging present owners of homes to leave the apartments for those without a house already. I mean, come on guys be fair. With only 6,480 per server instead of the original estimate (based on 512 per block) of 36,864 apartments, those without a home really need to be given priority.

Present home owners in Eorzea, please do not purchase an apartment during the 1st week of their availability at least. Give others a chance of owning their own space please.

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Originally Posted by Powe

with all the wards and sub division it'll be about 6,000 apartments so that's good enough in my book

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Maybe on smaller servers but for places like Balmung all the actual houses and the apartments combined together doesn't even met half the population of the server. I have heard balmung has like 30,000 characters and even if you cut that down to say 20,000 that previous statement would still hold true cause all the housing and apartments combined together will only be around 8000 spots.

not exact math

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

It was long before they were even implanted back when they were creating hype for it like they're now with apartments. Back then, in a live letter, they said that personal houses would be 800k and in their own separate wards. Neither of which happened.

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I'm not sure that they did give that number. It was said that pricing between FC housing and Personal housing would be different with personal housing being more affordable (but still pricey). The specific number came from a number seen during a demonstration of housing features that was never stated as an accurate price, and was just kind of assumed by the community to be a price.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

"Each apartment building can house up to 90 tenants"

Shouldn't it be 512?

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90 per ward? Then it'd be much more than 512 but of course when they said 512 that kind of thing is always subject to change...

and lol @ "Furthermore, it is possible to own both an estate and an apartment."...gonna be so many complaints.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

The PS3 cannot handle it.

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You really need to stop throwing peanuts from the gallery.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

90 per ward? Then it'd be much more than 512 but of course when they said 512 that kind of thing is always subject to change...

and lol @ "Furthermore, it is possible to own both an estate and an apartment."...gonna be so many complaints.

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90 is a really odd number. Normally the numbers are various powers of 2. So you'd expect apartments per block to be one of 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, etc... 90 just doesn't fit in that pattern at all, it's a really odd number. I have a feeling this is related to a instancing limitation of some kind and the number of 90 must represent the high watermark for the current server capability to instance. Perhaps in future the number will be extended.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

If it's only 90 per building, then I think we need a big fat community PSA strongly urging present owners of homes to leave the apartments for those without a house already. I mean, come on guys be fair. With only 6,480 per server instead of the original estimate (based on 512 per block) of 36,864 apartments, those without a home really need to be given priority.

Present home owners in Eorzea, please do not purchase an apartment during the 1st week of their availability at least. Give others a chance of owning their own space please.

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I don't want to be mean at all and sorry if I sound like (english not my mother tongue :/) but do you really consider the idea that players will be fair and give those without a house a chance at having an appartement ? In THIS game ?
I mean, where were you the last time they add new houses ?
Of cours, just like you I hope some of us will be civilized enougth and won't act as *** but....I mean come on we all saw the Pfs ans the reddit threads :/
This community is so toxic and selfish some FC have more than 10 houses for re-selling at outrageous prices, how can someone think they will be fair ? :/

(Again, don't want to bee mean to you at all, i swear ^^")

I'm going to echo the disappointment that this wasn't a preview of the inside of the apartments. Also, I really wish they had gone with the 512 rather than the 90. It's going to mean that I have no choice but to be frantically clicking when the servers come up.

The upside I'm taking away from this (I see it as an upside), is that SE is actually giving us the disappointing news with some advance warning rather than on the night of the patch. As much as I may not like the news, it was one of my big criticisms of the housing debacle and at least I know in advance so I can plan my day.

Housing has always been way easier for low pop servers. This is just another example. And of course people are going to take advantage of that >->;

BUT HEY!

4.2 will be introducing cardboard box housing though. Said to have enough space for everyone.

BTW does anyone know where physically the apartment building will be in the wards? want to log off in the closest spot to it before maintenance so I can book it to it when I log back on( hope I get the top floor, need all those stairs to get back that 1.0 booty).

Only the top 5- maybe 10 server will feel the pain.. The other 52 will be lolling at you all! There are ove 40 server with house still open, and over 10 server with as many as 50+ houses open still.

So you know there will be 1000s of Apartments open on the same servers too.

In the end just move server if it that big for you, More over don't pick a big server to start.

Easy fix!

Well should it be a worry for some they won't get an apartment due to alts, I wish you the best. Honestly unless you can actually get a room at the top floor and walk outside or even see outside, it doesn't seem like it would be much different than the Inn room or a single FC room.

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Originally Posted by Rhuazie

Housing has always been way easier for low pop servers. This is just another example. And of course people are going to take advantage of that >->;

BUT HEY!

4.2 will be introducing cardboard box housing though. Said to have enough space for everyone.

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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6016356380.png

Will pay million of gils for this! :D

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Originally Posted by Celef

I don't want to be mean at all and sorry if I sound like (english not my mother tongue :/) but do you really consider the idea that players will be fair and give those without a house a chance at having an appartement ? In THIS game ?
I mean, where were you the last time they add new houses ?
Of cours, just like you I hope some of us will be civilized enougth and won't act as *** but....I mean come on we all saw the Pfs ans the reddit threads :/
This community is so toxic and selfish some FC have more than 10 houses for re-selling at outrageous prices, how can someone think they will be fair ? :/

(Again, don't want to bee mean to you at all, i swear ^^")

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Hey, I was up all night at the last significant housing update so I could purchase a home, I'm aware of the land-rush that happens. I'm not under the illusion that this community will suddenly become all civil and give others a chance, but if some do, won't that help? If we stop trying to improve the community, are we not contributing to it's demise?

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6016356380.png

Will pay million of gils for this! :D

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Omg I want this soooo bad now, SE make this happen!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

I'm going to echo the disappointment that this wasn't a preview of the inside of the apartments. Also, I really wish they had gone with the 512 rather than the 90. It's going to mean that I have no choice but to be frantically clicking when the servers come up.

The upside I'm taking away from this (I see it as an upside), is that SE is actually giving us the disappointing news with some advance warning rather than on the night of the patch. As much as I may not like the news, it was one of my big criticisms of the housing debacle and at least I know in advance so I can plan my day.

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For perspective.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...926bda296b64a2

When housing was shown for the 2.1 update they did not comment on the amount of instances they would have for each location so we can't assume that there will only be 270 apartments at this point in time.

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6016356380.png

Will pay million of gils for this! :D

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budget cut
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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Hey, I was up all night at the last significant housing update so I could purchase a home, I'm aware of the land-rush that happens. I'm not under the illusion that this community will suddenly become all civil and give others a chance, but if some do, won't that help? If we stop trying to improve the community, are we not contributing to it's demise?

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I agree with you but trying to improve the community will probably not work unfortunally :/
nice and civil players will remain that way, *** will also remain that way, not matter what we do, just look at some comments regarding housing plots including things like "me myself and I are happy with are 3 house" or "if your too poor to buy a house or if you have a life i don't care, it's you'r fault" (I had quit an argument about that regarding selfish people preventing FC to get a house while some FC content are gated behing having an FC house)

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Originally Posted by Rhuazie

Housing has always been way easier for low pop servers. This is just another example. And of course people are going to take advantage of that >->;

BUT HEY!

4.2 will be introducing cardboard box housing though. Said to have enough space for everyone.

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There's that Ishgard housing. Right in the Brume.

is this going to be like fc rooms? or a little bigger?

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Originally Posted by YISUG

is this going to be like fc rooms? or a little bigger?

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I think they said it's going to be a little bit bigger but still one room

90 rooms per building? Damn. I doubt there will be any left after a few days.

The sad part about limited housing is that it makes some people feel like they need to reserve a room just in case. Not because they want to use it right away but because they know it might be the only chance they get to obtain one. This causes an even bigger housing demand. I wonder if SE is intentionally keeping it exclusive like that.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

90 rooms per building? Damn. I doubt there will be any left after a few days.
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On the populated servers it will not be a few days. It will be a few minutes after the patch drops

I still fail to see other then the views how apartments are different then rooms in houses?
As when they introduced more housing recently i imagine apartments will be filled soon.
So those only able to log in after work @ night are sol

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Originally Posted by Maero

I still fail to see other then the views how apartments are different then rooms in houses?

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Supposedly bigger and give the opportunity for those who don't have FC / house to get access to stables and gardening in pots

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Originally Posted by Maero

I still fail to see other then the views how apartments are different then rooms in houses?
As when they introduced more housing recently i imagine apartments will be filled soon.
So those only able to log in after work @ night are sol

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* Estate sharing is not permitted with apartments. Furthermore, apartments are not subject to auto-demolition.

Also ull keep ur apartment even if u get kicked out from a FC :P

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Originally Posted by Lulu89

Only the top 5- maybe 10 server will feel the pain.. The other 52 will be lolling at you all! There are ove 40 server with house still open, and over 10 server with as many as 50+ houses open still.

So you know there will be 1000s of Apartments open on the same servers too.

In the end just move server if it that big for you, More over don't pick a big server to start.

Easy fix!

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Yes, because it's so easy for us to move servers after we've been on said server for 3 years. That includes leaving your FC, cutting connections, losing out on gil that you can't transfer with you....

Yeah, transferring servers just to have housing is such an easy fix.