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11-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Holland

I am glad jump is being implemented.
11-03-2011, 05:27 PM
PrettyPrincess

shut up you idiots jeez
11-03-2011, 05:28 PM
Rowyne

Oh, good lord. Jumping officially has been confirmed, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with a prototype animation for it. Fighting it at this point is like the people who argued against auto-attack, all the way to 1.18 patch day.

The only thing that can be considered constructive feedback now is how it should be implemented, not if.

I, for one, am glad to see it being implemented. Maybe that's one less thing the gaming community can use to take pot shots at FFXIV. This game is ridiculed for being in the dark ages, and rightly so.

I'm also glad to see it looks like a free-form spacebar type jump!
11-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Teuciont

I would've always been fine with context sensitive jumps. Like in Zelda games, or in FFXIII. I, personally, feel that would be the best path to take, but realize it's more than likely too late in the design process to implement it due to how they design the maps.
I wish they could've listened to other people who thought this, as well as the crowd that wanted jump and come to a happy medium.
Oh well.
11-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Alerion

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

but if you don't wish to tell me why you think jumping is a needed feature in this game because you can't get over the fact that I brought up the "oh so evil w word," than that's up to you.

Because a whole lot of people, myself obviously included, enjoy being able to freely move. Seems pretty simple to me.
11-03-2011, 05:31 PM
Starlord

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Oh, good lord. Jumping officially has been confirmed, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with a prototype animation for it. Fighting it at this point is like the people who argued against auto-attack, all the way to 1.18 patch day.

The only thing that can be considered constructive feedback now is how it should be implemented, not if.

I totally agree, I hate fighting, I hate EVERYTHING in exsistance HAS to be a WOW clone IF it meet anything that makes it seem "wowish", and for all that is good, people use the same features in every MMO is Natural, but calling it a " Wow clone" is kinda childish :/
11-03-2011, 05:32 PM
Oscillate_Wildly

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Oh, good lord. Jumping officially has been confirmed, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with a prototype animation for it. Fighting it at this point is like the people who argued against auto-attack, all the way to 1.18 patch day.

The only thing that can be considered constructive feedback now is how it should be implemented, not if.

This^

I'd like to see it implemented as an action in areas of maps to ascend to higher spots. Such as nearing a cliff edge, and having the action pop up in your menu, or to double click the spot. Controlled areas in other words, instead of free-jumping as an emote.

It's still jump, it still allows you to access areas you couldn't reach, and offers for more dynamic map areas.
11-03-2011, 05:35 PM
Agoven

He said it's in development and still in testing...it has not been finalized that it will be added to the game as of yet...why have jump if there's no reason for the jump feature?

Here we go with people jumping randomly for no reason what so ever...sounds unnecessary to add and only causes crazy mapping calculations and collision detection and mob targeting and AI issues.
11-03-2011, 05:38 PM
Ruisu

Xenoblade has jump. That's a JRPG. Quit pissing on the idea of jump and let us enjoy it. FFXIII-2 has free jump as well.
11-03-2011, 05:39 PM
options

Jumping is being implemented. Great in my books. I can see what that brings to the table. Good and Bad. Mostly good. But if you are the type of person that feels rage cause someone is bunny hopping around, maybe you should really just play sp games cause if its not bunny hopping, then its gonna be something else that makes you livid.

Its just an alpha, showing generally what its gonna be like. How bout we wait and see the final release before we start raging.
11-03-2011, 05:43 PM
Physic

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

WoW is dying, yes. SWTOR copies the WoW style doing to the tee. Rift was a complete copy. TERA, GW2 both based on the WoW model. It's not WoW I'm talking about, it's all the big star titles coming out that are takes on WoW.

What about GW2 is wow like?
11-03-2011, 05:47 PM
Malakhim

Hey as long as it doesn't look god-awful and they have a purpose for it, then I can dig it.
11-03-2011, 05:50 PM
Aenarion

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Hey as long as it doesn't look god-awful and they have a purpose for it, then I can dig it.

this, i don't get the blatant love or hate for jump
11-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Xenoblade has jump. That's a JRPG. Quit pissing on the idea of jump and let us enjoy it. FFXIII-2 has free jump as well.

Neither of those are an MMORPG.
11-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Reinheart

just remember the jump they showed in the video was not approved by YoshiP; he said it feels awkward and it's too high, they are still working on it.
11-03-2011, 05:57 PM
Brainriot

The true reason we don't have jump in this game, as once a great personality said in this forum, is because we can't jump in real life. END OF STORY.

See? Jumping feels awkward because jumping doesn't exist! 'nuff said.
11-03-2011, 05:58 PM
MartaDemireux

I hope we have some fast paced "raids" (still feels awkward calling them that) that require us to jump over gaps and stuff. That could be a good use as well as an immersion tool!
11-03-2011, 05:59 PM
Brainriot

BTW why jump if you can ride a Gobbue that can just push everything aside? C'mon.
11-03-2011, 06:10 PM
LemmingKingXXX

the rest of you can hop all over the land for all I care, I'll be riding my chocobo and getting there before you
11-03-2011, 06:28 PM
Rowyne

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

just remember the jump they showed in the video was not approved by YoshiP; he said it feels awkward and it's too high, they are still working on it.

Ah, see, that's the problem with seeing the video before we get the translation. All we got on Twitter was a brief blurb that Yoshi-P was talking about jump, and then we see the animations. While I am a jump advocate, I do have to admit that it did look awkward. I definitely think SE can do better. But I'm glad it looks like we're going to be able to jump!

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Originally Posted by Brainriot

The true reason we don't have jump in this game, as once a great personality said in this forum, is because we can't jump in real life. END OF STORY.

See? Jumping feels awkward because jumping doesn't exist! 'nuff said.

So when I play hopscotch or use a jump rope I'm defying the laws of physics? Wow!
11-03-2011, 06:50 PM
Gospel

(╬ ಠ益ಠ) "This jump is unacceptable... Players should be able to double jump.... no... wait! Players should be able to have jet packs so when they double jump, they can use the thrusters and perform a TRIPLE JUMP!... YEAH!!!!"
11-03-2011, 06:51 PM
Seirra_Lanzce

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Originally Posted by Gospel

(╬ ಠ益ಠ) "This jump is unacceptable... Players should be able to double jump.... no... wait! Players should be able to have jet packs so when they double jump, they can use the thrusters and perform a TRIPLE JUMP!... YEAH!!!!"

which also includes SOMMERSAULTS!
11-03-2011, 06:52 PM
lenn1

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

It's also personal preference of yours that jump be in the game, am I not allowed to have my own opinion? Why do people think not having jump is what makes a MMO "archaic" and "barbaric?" Why does WoW, I don't care if you don't like to hear it, you know it's true, have to be the standard for every MMO? Just because the millions of Korean and Chinese knockoffs(racism is not intended) all follow WoW in an attempt to cash in on it's success doesn't mean this game should.

Just because SWTOR, Rift, GW2 and Tera can't think of anything new but small tweaks to the WoW formula, which isn't entirely original in itself, doesn't mean that other MMOs can't try something different. It's not a "MMO standard," it's a stagnating formula.

If wow's formula isn't original then that means another game did it before wow, and if another game did it before wow why not complain about them instead?

Its a bit difficult to come up with anything these days if everything good and bad can be associated with wow.
11-03-2011, 08:11 PM
nibelunc

Let's open a new thread about this in about 1-2 months.
I don't like it too.
11-03-2011, 08:19 PM
Lakefingers

Oh dear, jumping... did ffxiv players actually want this? So gimmicky.
11-03-2011, 08:29 PM
AdvancedWind

The sad thing is that this thread complaining about a pre alpha animation for a highly irrelevant (albeit popular) feature will get far more posts than all other threads talking about the (awesome) letter combined.
11-03-2011, 08:30 PM
Firon

Kriss Cross can make you Jump, Jump.
11-03-2011, 08:40 PM
KiriA500

I'm SO MAD they're adding jump. My character is supposed to be attached to the ground AT ALL TIMES!

It's a good thing there aren't any weapon skills in the game where your character jumps...that would break ALL OF MY IMMERSION!!!
11-03-2011, 08:42 PM
Jinko

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

And it looks as terrible as everyone imagined. Yes, I realize those are pre-alpha animations, but with lalafell jumping 6 feet into the air and the concept in general, this is starting to look more and more like Final Fantasy of Warcraft online with each development.

Lalafell jumps more like Mario IMO

Typical that people quickly run to WoW as an insult though, geezz can you people not come up with something more orginal.
11-03-2011, 08:43 PM
Nabiri

Well, I wasn't impressed. ._. The lalafell jumps way too high, the hyur looked awkward as well. I want to know what will be done to prevent everyone from bouncing all the time (which Yoshida-san has acknowledged in the past is a fear of many players) and the game from becoming a massive joke. I also want to know if jumping could be kept out of PvP and battles..
Actually, another good question is... where the heck will this fit on the controller?
11-03-2011, 08:48 PM
Buddhsie

I think the jumping looks good, and it's a nice height. In FFXI the tarutaru had the highest AGI stat, it's no surprise that something that size can have a bit of a spring to it (like a RL friend of mine in high school was damn short and used to always win high jump at athletics).

If it was lower people would complain and ask what the point of implementing a jump is if it wasn't high enough to jump over most objects.
11-03-2011, 08:51 PM
Buddhsie

Oh and it was a low-angle view on the video, makes it look higher than it really is.
11-03-2011, 08:52 PM
Seirra_Lanzce

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I'm SO MAD they're adding jump. My character is supposed to be attached to the ground AT ALL TIMES!

It's a good thing there aren't any weapon skills in the game where your character jumps...that would break ALL OF MY IMMERSION!!!

Pugilist and Lancer has Jump animation in their skills.
11-03-2011, 08:54 PM
Djeserit

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

Pugilist and Lancer has Jump animation in their skills.

He was being sarcastic. Or am I failing at sensing the sarcasm of your misunderstanding of his sarcasm?

....Sarcception?
11-03-2011, 08:59 PM
Seirra_Lanzce

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Originally Posted by Djeserit

He was being sarcastic. Or am I failing at sensing the sarcasm of your misunderstanding of his sarcasm?

....Sarcception?

is a sarcasm being sarcasm'ed
11-03-2011, 09:01 PM
Lebannen

As long as they make the jump a tad lower I would be fine with it.
11-03-2011, 09:02 PM
SihrBahn

Chrono Trigger had jump since 1995. Stop spamming wow
11-03-2011, 09:06 PM
Djeserit

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

is a sarcasm being sarcasm'ed

Common mistake. The title of the movie doesn't reference the dream within a dream within a dream, it references the dreamer taking in the idea that has been secretly implanted.

in·cep·tion (n-spshn)
n.
The beginning of something, such as an undertaking; a commencement.

/vocabnerd
11-03-2011, 09:06 PM
Ark_mage2

I am pretty sure the jump height is the same for all races. It is just that since the lala is smaller he seemed to be jumping more. If they made his jump proportionate to his body then he would be at a disadvantage compared to the less vertically challenged in Eorzea.
11-03-2011, 09:11 PM
Shneibel

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

It's also personal preference of yours that jump be in the game, am I not allowed to have my own opinion? Why do people think not having jump is what makes a MMO "archaic" and "barbaric?" Why does WoW, I don't care if you don't like to hear it, you know it's true, have to be the standard for every MMO? Just because the millions of Korean and Chinese knockoffs(racism is not intended) all follow WoW in an attempt to cash in on it's success doesn't mean this game should.

Just because SWTOR, Rift, GW2 and Tera can't think of anything new but small tweaks to the WoW formula, which isn't entirely original in itself, doesn't mean that other MMOs can't try something different. It's not a "MMO standard," it's a stagnating formula.

feel like I take the troll bail, but reply anyway

Tera is more than just a few tweaks from wow, play it first k ?

you can have your own opinion, but why complain about the system underdeveloped ? I fail to understand this point

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Originally Posted by Ark_mage2

I am pretty sure the jump height is the same for all races. It is just that since the lala is smaller he seemed to be jumping more. If they made his jump proportionate to his body then he would be at a disadvantage compared to the less vertically challenged in Eorzea.

consider from the info how the lala jump, pretty much it wont be just for fun and spam button, there ll be obstacle imo or some area you need to jump to reach

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