I've been trying to clear. Final phase experience and I join parties in final phase but half of the members die to mechanics before we even get there. So frustrating.
The question for Monday: Why do you need your clear asap?
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06-22-2016, 11:15 AMmadolyn
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06-22-2016, 01:56 PMLalafellDown
yeah I hate clear parties after I learn the fight I just ask a farm party to let me in and we clear/farm the rest of the day. Wish there was a party in between clear and farm. If you don't get a clear fast enough you will be stuck with the bad people.
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06-22-2016, 02:16 PMObysucaThat's what put me off to doing anymore ex after the first 3. "Yeah, we/I know all of the mechanics". Said person who said that proceeds to die to everything -.- It's not even a rare occurrence either, it never fails to happen on everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by madolyn
Also, reason why I need to clear asap on things? If you don't do it day 1 and don't have a static, 90% chance you'll never get it done because the majority of the people who actually know how to listen / know their job are now doing clear pts so you get stuck with over half a pt in pf filled with people who want to be carried :/ -
06-22-2016, 02:45 PMrjspencer4
1. Because the longer I wait the fewer "good players" there will be to party with, they will have moved on and the odds of having a good party will decrease.
2. Because if they have been carried through the first phase, they see no reason why they can't be carried through the next phase too.
3. Nothing, they will join whatever has the possibility of getting them what they want and when they want it. -
06-22-2016, 05:48 PMBlackcanary
You just gave me a idea I'm gonna make a party in PF to pratice Nidhogg The final steps of faith. Tried 13 times to complete it on Sunday and every party I was in could get past the final phase and this was on normal mode.
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06-22-2016, 05:58 PMKarstenS
The curerent issues with the PUGs in PF are self made by the people.
To many times people join into parties without having patience, not knowing what they claim to know, don't bring the needed effort or just want a carry.
After the long time since the release of 2.0, veterans are more and more organizing their groups outside of PF, because of to many bad experiences in the past with random people. They are looking for people in FCs, linkshells and friendlists. They are grouping up with people they know and trust.
As a result, the amount of "good" PUGs in PF is getting lesser and lesser.
And to get to the point of the OP: This issue is not that issue outside of PF. -
06-22-2016, 09:48 PMLineageRazorInteresting. You'll notice what server I'm on? Every word I've spoken, has been from the perspective of a Gilgamesh player. Perhaps I just have thicker skin than most...Quote:
Originally Posted by Souljacker
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06-22-2016, 11:44 PMrandysquirrel
Nidhogg likely to be outdated even sooner than other primals were. The weapons are already outdated, with people already having our relics or midas weapons. Outside of bird farming there's no reason to step back in there after clearing it once
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06-22-2016, 11:48 PMWerhuskyThere's a beautiful bird and there's weapons for alts...Quote:
Originally Posted by randysquirrel
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06-23-2016, 08:12 AMArchaell
Report for today:
I have spent over 12h in the last phase training groups for Nidhogg Ex. Got to the last phase less than 10 times and mostly with half dead groups. I have seen all the mechanics once and only thanks to the hallowed ground. During the last run I was so surprised when we finally got to the tower phase I had absolutely no idea which tower was mine... I am starting to think that party finder is not good for my mental health ^^
Why is the community such rubbish?!
Ehm. Why can't people understand that the things must be done in a certain order? When the party is made to train the last phase it is supposed to get there 9 out of 10 tries. Even 7/10 would be much better than what I have seen today. But there is always someone, quite often multiple people, who just joins in and dies again and again in the first phase which is followed by quick disband to save people's feelings. This is starting to be slightly depressing...
Idk, why it is so hard to understand that by joining groups above players experience it is harmful not just for the party itself but also for the party finder as whole. The thing written in the description feels most of the time like a false advertisement and there is no protection against it because it is based on players morals and they have almost none it seems.
I am considering making a static for the Nidhogg and never opening that toxic place filled with carrying again... sigh. -
06-23-2016, 04:57 PMWerhusky
Archy join linkshells (I have one fully primal clear focused) and make friends and add good players to ask them again.
Or as you wrote make your own linkshell/static for such things.
Good luck you can do it ^^ -
06-23-2016, 05:49 PMUunoTurhapuro
I had this problem as well when Sephirot came out. I was inactive at the time so of course I missed the train on that fight, but through countless PF training runs and whatnot, I got 7 other people who I had trained with and we cleared it. But that might have just been the 1 in a million chance to get.
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06-23-2016, 05:51 PMrandysquirrelThat'll be why I said outside of bird-farming then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Werhusky
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06-23-2016, 08:31 PMArchaellDepending on how today's go I might just give up and get it done with our FC statik which raids savage. But I would seriously preffer getting it done without help of people who are farming it... I am no masochist either tho. It doesn't seem that players would suddenly follow PF description so chances are slim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Werhusky