Anyone else annoyed by Aquapolis?

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Maybe keep rng for the drops but make each room harder then the previous and still hoping you pick the right door. As for the maps unless it been changed you only allowed one map per day and the rest you have to buy as people said maps gone up in price and would get quite expensive but I guess some people like gambling.

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I think you might like Palace of the Dead then once it comes out.
So far sounds like it will be the 'each room harder than the previous', since it gets more difficult the further down you get without much RNG involved.
Just see the Aquapolis as a 'Bonus' or even 'Critical Hit' for Treasure Hunting.
You already get the reward from the treasure hunt chest guaranteed.
But maybe you get a Bonus now! Crit! Portal appeared!
And now you're guaranteed the loot from the first room.
Got another Bonus, picked the right Door!
etc~

Don't think of it as things you didn't get, but rather things that are a bonus -if- you get them.

I hate RNG as well Lexia. It brings me no enjoyment to win or lose based on things outside my control (lag is also one of my pet peeves). I have found Aquapolis a bit more enjoyable when done with a party with multiple maps. Like 8 to 10 maps in a row, or 16+ if you have the time. A "map raid night" would be a fun event for the fc. The effects of RNG diminish the more you repeat the action so your total winnings over time resemble the expected value (for that many runs) more and more as you keep running the place. It's also unlikely to complete so many runs without getting quite far in the rooms at least once.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Anyone find Aquapolis annoying? The place is fun but it more like trollopolis. Get a map (not sure if it dragonskin only or not) which has a chance at spawning a portal which when you get in there more rng of if you can continue cause the doors are pretty much a coin flip if you pick the right door or not. I have made it to the 6th room once and even been kicked out after trying the first door.

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I failed 4 aqualpolis entries on the first room in a row... and then hit room 7 on my 5th! RNG is a cruel mistress but as others have said, the excitement of the chase is what makes this content more engaging rather than grind (we got diadem for that and look how quickly that died out)

Only problem I've had there is minor loot drama, even among friends. That and eye rolling over SE's fake door failure trolling.

Thanks to aquapolis I got nearly 100k gil in a single run and got 2 pieces of the Thavnairian set, armlets and sandles, saving me a good 800k gil.

The first run we did we got to room 6. The second run everyone got booted out by a server wide DC and had to fight a que to get back onto the server. Only to find we could not get back in our run that had hit the 3rd room.

Some of our members in the FC gathered lots of maps before 3.3 so we still have a lot of them to do. I am not really sure about the RNG, maybe we were just really lucky but most of the time we were able to get the gate. But not only that, of the 9 gates we got, we reached the last room 3 times. xD I am still a little shocked about our luck. Only once did we loose at the first door and most of the time we got to room four or five. At the end I had nearly 800k gil in my pocket just for doing the content.

We laughed so hard at the troll doors and I even got them 5 out of 7 rooms xD. Some even wrote that I must cheat. It was so much fun. The minions and the clothes that dropped were nice too. We decided that anyone can loot the clothes and if you did not have the minion you could need on it and greed if you have it already. :)

But I do agree that it would be nice to have a little less RNG. Maybe include some notes with some hard riddle that give you a clue which door would be the right one. (Maybe instead of two doors you could have made four or something) I am also still unsure if its only 50/50 with each door or if any door can be successful since you can get three versions of opening it and only one were you really loose. (That trolling :'D)

Nope. One of the best things they added in 3.3 it's great.

Getting the troll door in room 6 to 7 was fun...

Its like 150k gil per party member for a full run just in rewards not counting the drops. If it was easy that would lead to rampant gil inflation with nothing left to spend it on because you had a storage full already..

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I LOVE Aquapolis.
Sure it makes me sad when I don't get far but...oh well. Time for another map.

THIS is the content I signed up for

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Yup...same here dude....Aquapolis is AWESOME!!!

Went on a run with 6-7 other FC members and we got a portal every other chest.

And on one of my runs we ended up getting to the 7th floor.....it was sooo much fun!!

Aquapolis is exactly what this game needed to make it feel more like a Final Fantasy game. I hope we get more content like this. It looks like the Deep Dungeon is going to sort of be like this.

I adore aquapolis. It's fun and I cannot wait for the solo dungeon!

We have managed to get to last room and got a lovely Craftsmanship V and glass fibre from it. So rewards are totally worth it!

Maps are 200k. Can't complain.

Not annoyed. I'm just confused why it exists. Still trying to figure out how it differs from treasure maps (just chance at more stuff, which could have just been applied outside). No idea why we are removed from the beautiful zones to kill stuff in a dull looking instance.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Not annoyed. I'm just confused why it exists. Still trying to figure out how it differs from treasure maps (just chance at more stuff, which could have just been applied outside). No idea why we are removed from the beautiful zones to kill stuff in a dull looking instance.

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I would have preferred the opposite. Get rid of the normal dragonskin map treasure and just replace it with finding Aquapolis 100% of the time.

Aquopolis is awesome! I'm sorry that you don't like it, but no its awesome.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Most people play games to get away from real life not mimic it but anyways I'm done with this thread cause most the response are just
1: Typical response "don't like it don't do it"
or
2: That I'm entitled scrum that thinks need everything handed to me

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You're the only one getting defensive in this thread just because no one is agreeing with you. I have read the whole thread and haven't seen anyone being disrespectful to you, you're just taking it that way. Way to make everyone sound like assholes & you a helpless victim.

I happen to think Aquapolis is a nice change of pace. Every update was more of the same & finally they are adding fun content that isn't based on how much free time you have to grind tomes for awesome gear. And if you happen to choose right you get rewarded with some nice loots. I don't understand how taking rng out of the mix would make it more enjoyable for you.

*que you putting words in my mouth calling you entitled scum -_-*

Stop being salty, its a game.

Only thing that annoys me is the fake-outs.

Does it really need to fake me out with the rainbow lights every other door? It's to the point where I'm almost relieved when I do get kicked out for real.

I like the RNG factor, even if it's not in my favor...

Only thing I'm annoyedish at is finally getting a portal, because "50%" (I know it doesn't stack, but come on lol)and only get it once out of 10 maps (had some stocked up, retainers and moogle mail), going inside and getting the wrong door in the first room D: but you know, rng, can't do anything about that lol

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Only thing that annoys me is the fake-outs.

Does it really need to fake me out with the rainbow lights every other door? It's to the point where I'm almost relieved when I do get kicked out for real.

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The last time I did it, we got to room 6, with fake-outs every single room except the first >_>

The "troll" doors are getting old.

Actually, they've already gotten old. After the first few times.

Been in the Aquapolis about 15 times now and still haven't reached the bottom floor. It seems like most of the time we don't even get passed the first floor.

The Aquapolis is pretty damn neato. I got to the 7th floor on the first day.

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Originally Posted by Shamo_Lomenzo

I never understood why people are complaining about this. Aquapolis doesn't exist for progression. It's an extra reward. You shouldn't be whining when you get kicked out, you should be saying, "Ah well. At least I made it as far as I did. Better luck next time."

It's not supposed to be super common to make it to the 7th room. In fact, it's almost never supposed to happen.

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The main purpose was to give players a reason to make maps again!
It clearly fails that purpose because frustration is too high!
Reward from maps isnt that great any more and its here to adjust the reward to make it for higher iLvL still interesting...
Square Enix does not try to fix the cause of the problem!

You dont do maps because of the first floor reward or the second floor...
Square Enix plays with players "hope" and wonders why it becomes "hatred"...

Edit: No one asks for handing it over, stop trolling with that stupid argument.
All we ask is to have a better system than that pure RNG (stacked) where you may NEVER see any portal if you are unlucky! (same with each floor door)

Guys asking... Is the door depends on the how much the coin beside each door on the floor? I tried like the fewer is the trap and it's working.

I'm going to guess, that the people that are in here complaining about the RNG of the portal/doors, like always, are those that rather then gathering them over time from trees and rocks. You know for free. Are buying them from the market board at over inflated prices and now are frustrated cause of all that gil wasted with nothing to recoup that gil. I think that's it. It's nothing else. It's you know, "I just blew 1million gils for this...whaaaaaa."

uhmm no, most of the people complain about a situation where you depend on RNG to enter the place, it doesnt matter if you have bought the map or not, the RNG Is not much in getting the map but rather in getting the portal out of the map. Since you can only get one map a day...you could go months, years without ever seeing a portal and ever be able to do Aquapolis. that is one f the reason I have 7maps sitting in my inventory(servants) and doubt I will ever do any of those. Frustration is good but not when it depends on a factor that you have no control over, in fact I could deal with 1 of them BUT not for each floors...is on many accounts wrong. You dont incentive players to do more maps this way, you give them a reason to complain again about RNG numbers and we all know that some are on the right side and others not. I see / hear already the word * leech* going around, parties limitating what you can or even IF you can get something while inside. I wonder when we are going to see people kicking others before reaching a given place to get the loot for themselves...( not sure the feature is allowed inside, if it is, we will see that happen in not such a long time)

The idea is good but the implementation is wrong. Make things harder inside for people. Increase the number of maps per day you can get, but everyone should be able to enter, and try. There is no frustration if you fail, if you fail while inside it would be your doing as opposed to ..choosing the wrong door.

Besides, keep in mind that some people CANT get a map other then buying it...I remind you that the map can only be obatain via gathering. If you do not have eany of your gatherers levelled, you get no maps and that too is not right. As I said, EVERYBODY should get that map but inside the difficulty should be high enough and maybe even adapted to the level (average) of the group, but is me

There is nothing wrong with it as far as I am concerned. The chance of it spawning a portal is quite high, anyone can gather the maps by leveling a gatherer or they can buy them from the market board. The things gained from the portal run are an 'additional' reward on top of what the maps already gave in the past. Unlike housing plots or rare/event items, maps are infinite and despite only being able to gather one a day on a character...you can gain one every day if wanted or more than one a day if have more than one character.

You still get the same things as normal from the map alone but now with added chance of more rewards which is not something to complain about regardless of whether reach final room of not. The value of the maps in the market board by proxy obviously have increased because there is a high chance of obtaining more from doing them which benefits gatherers too if do not want to use them. If do not want to buy them then level a gathering class, no-one is stopping you from doing so and it doesn't take long plus does not require a group to level one.

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Originally Posted by Natashio

I'm going to guess, that the people that are in here complaining about the RNG of the portal/doors, like always, are those that rather then gathering them over time from trees and rocks. You know for free. Are buying them from the market board at over inflated prices and now are frustrated cause of all that gil wasted with nothing to recoup that gil. I think that's it. It's nothing else. It's you know, "I just blew 1million gils for this...whaaaaaa."

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Opportunity cost. Nothing is free.

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

The things gained from the portal run are an 'additional' reward on top of what the maps already gave in the past.

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If that's all there is to it, then they really should have saved themselves the problem of making the Aquapolis and just randomly slapped those rewards onto the chest instead. Same chance to get them, but a lot less coding and ressources involved, which could instead be used for something that is more than 'just' an additional reward.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

If that's all there is to it, then they really should have saved themselves the problem of making the Aquapolis and just randomly slapped those rewards onto the chest instead. Same chance to get them, but a lot less coding and ressources involved, which could instead be used for something that is more than 'just' an additional reward.

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Not at all. It is a fun new feature included in the activity of doing maps to make it more exciting instead of just randomly giving you more things when open the map chest. I am sorry but the few people here complaining about this are not going to win this argument for the multitude of reasons I along with others have already given, they are barking up the wrong tree on this.

Why do some people have such a hard time accepting that not everything is designed for them? Plenty of people enjoy Aquapolis as is, if you don't? Well, that's fine... I see no reason to change Aquapolis though, it's designed as a fun little RNG jaunt, if you want something similar but with progression based on skill rather than luck, guess what, that's what Palace of the Dead is!

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Originally Posted by Eul

Guys asking... Is the door depends on the how much the coin beside each door on the floor? I tried like the fewer is the trap and it's working.

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My friend thought so as well and it seemed to work for a bit but eventually that method failed so I think it's just 50/50 luck.

I like the Aquapolis aswell. It's really fun and you get some extra rewards.

I love Aquapolis! It's what Diadem should have been. Fun fun for everyone!

Have fun with it map, its meant to troll you!

Me and my FC friends did a bunch of maps last night and today. We all had a great time. Everyone was saying it was the most fun they've had in ages. And the loot was great too. Only got to 7th floor once, and 6th twice, with a bunch of 1s and 2s, but no one got frustrated. Like has been posted above, it's all bonus.

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Originally Posted by Shamo_Lomenzo

I never understood why people are complaining about this. Aquapolis doesn't exist for progression. It's an extra reward. You shouldn't be whining when you get kicked out, you should be saying, "Ah well. At least I made it as far as I did. Better luck next time."

It's not supposed to be super common to make it to the 7th room. In fact, it's almost never supposed to happen.

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I had a group, and we got it 5 times in a row......................

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Originally Posted by Powe

I had a group, and we got it 5 times in a row......................

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Well, like I said, it's almost never supposed to happen. You're the exception rather than the norm in this case.

The expectation shouldn't be get in to a portal every time or that you'll always make it to the end. I can understand the frustration if say you buy a dragonskin map and get nothing, but for those of us with gatherers that can get the maps for free, it's usually profitable either way. I will say that the trolling aspect of the doors can be irritating, I can just picture whoever came up with it giggling to himself the whole time.

I really like it because it gives me something I can do with just about anyone in my FC.

If RNG bothers you, you are playing the wrong game.