Female Sundrop Dance

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Our male characters don't even really have packages, though. xD

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Ken doll bulge for the win?

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Our male characters don't even really have packages, though. xD

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I'll trade issues with you; some tights on my elezen give massive camel toe. ;-;

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Why is the female sundrop dance so modest? The male version is very involved, gets the legs moving and everything. The female version barely moves at all, no leg movement, doesn't seem to be any resemblance to the male intensity. Please change the female version to be more intense like the male.

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Vanu vanu culture, their females do it too.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Yes, let's blur the genders and do away with all differences. Uniformity for the Win!

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

Celebrate the differences, and stick with the race and gender you prefer. The reason you prefer it is because of the differences.

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Equality =/= sameness

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

Equality =/= sameness

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That means the dance is just fine.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

That means the dance is just fine.

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I have no problem with the dance being different. The moves themselves are fine. My issue with it is the way they're executed, it has no authority, it looks more like a schoolgirl trying to play at being tough than an actual tough woman.

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

I have no problem with the dance being different. The moves themselves are fine. My issue with it is the way they're executed, it has no authority, it looks more like a schoolgirl trying to play at being tough than an actual tough woman.

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Well... most females in the game do look like schoolgirls trying to play tough. :D It wouldn't change even if they were given male animations.

Anyway. Someone doubted the ferocity and grace of femroes so I had show them wrong. Here's the /sundance in different kinds of clothes so you can see how attire changes the "vibe" of the dance. The first one conveys the most power, the second emphasizes head movement and facial expressions and hides the stiff legs, and the third makes the dance seem cutesy. I must warn you that it's a pretty big gif cause I'm bad at creating videos.

http://i.imgur.com/hanWlPK.gif

I like the way it looks on my character and I don't think a wide-legged crab crouch would suit her that well. It's based on real life tradition and female characters were given the same animation as female NPCs always had. You can't judge the amount of work that went into it by the scale of the movements alone. Even though the movements are subtle they were still animated frame by frame and looped properly. The dance is fine imo. Some people just like to cry inequality when they don't like the aesthetic of something, as if they represent a greater cause.

They're releasing a new FF game that the lead female cannot do anything but waiting for the men to rescue her. I'm disappointed how SE treated female characters recently. Minfilia cannot fight and need to be rescued as well.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They're releasing a new FF game that the lead female cannot do anything but waiting for the men to rescue her. I'm disappointed how SE treated female characters recently. Minfilia cannot fight and need to be rescued as well.

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To be fair Alphinaud is useless too. Think of your average 16 year old Football player in your local HighSchool. Guarantee you that kid can bench at least 250 lbs if not more. He can probably throw a decent punch. Now think of Alphinaud. That kid is uuuusssseeeeless. Hell I don't think Urianger fights at all - yet Yda kicks ass. So...it's not a gender thing. It's a character thing.

Also the Bard lady in the opening FFXIV cutscene and the little lalafell Thaumaturge who becomes a white mage are active characters and are clearly implied to be extremely strong. (Video for reference)

https://youtu.be/lDSnzcaLaZg

I Dunno, alphinaud threw some slick heals on me and his pet was a good distraction

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They're releasing a new FF game that the lead female cannot do anything but waiting for the men to rescue her. I'm disappointed how SE treated female characters recently. Minfilia cannot fight and need to be rescued as well.

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I guess Kingsglaive doesn't count for anything. Anyway, Minfilia might not fight but she's strong willed then you got the admiral, treewhisperer, and sultana who rule nations, Lucia who is a high ranking knight, Yda who kicks butt, Y'shtola who's smart and powerful, Krile who's smart, Ysayle who led a small army, Alisiae who's a tough cookie, Rowena who may be the richest person in Eorzea, Matoya the kickass old lady, and countless female Warriors of Light...but nah they don't count. ;)

Back on topic: the sundrop dance isn't that bad. A little stiff but the male one is just as goofy in a different way.

Let's not forget Moenbryda, the scholarly axe wielder who

sacrificed herself for us.

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Originally Posted by ohmRICE

I guess Kingsglaive doesn't count for anything. Anyway, Minfilia might not fight but she's strong willed then you got the admiral, treewhisperer, and sultana who rule nations, Lucia who is a high ranking knight, Yda who kicks butt, Y'shtola who's smart and powerful, Krile who's smart, Ysayle who led a small army, Alisiae who's a tough cookie, Rowena who may be the richest person in Eorzea, Matoya the kickass old lady, and countless female Warriors of Light...but nah they don't count. ;)

Back on topic: the sundrop dance isn't that bad. A little stiff but the male one is just as goofy in a different way.

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You mean FFXV? That's the reason Stella was replaced with Lunafreya. They wanted a female lead that wouldn't sit and wait for rescue.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

They're releasing a new FF game that the lead female cannot do anything but waiting for the men to rescue her. I'm disappointed how SE treated female characters recently. Minfilia cannot fight and need to be rescued as well.

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I guess Yda, Y'shtola, Moenbryda, Merlwyb, and Matoya (to name a few) don't count for anything. >_>

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I guess Yda, Y'shtola, Moenbryda, Merlwyb, and Matoya (to name a few) don't count for anything. >_>

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We only like to focus on things that support what we want to complain about. It could even be a situation where literally everything that has ever existed would provide evidence to counter someones argument about something not being PC or is "unfair", said person will forever cling to their belief because they choose to focus exclusively on it.

The followup argument tends to be akin to "Yeah, those are nice, but X still means blah blah blah". To a lot of people, they may agree with this, but it's always funny when they/we are put into a situation where this understanding just goes right out the window lol.