New crafted i185 in 3.1... will it temporarily save crafting?

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Originally Posted by iambanana

we are doomed lol

the crafted i185 have no materia slot, and the stats is just a little bit better than i180 crafted, and it need specialist just to make the item, this is not good

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Can we at least spiritbond them and turn them into materia (V if possible)

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Originally Posted by iambanana

we are doomed lol

the crafted i185 have no materia slot, and the stats is just a little bit better than i180 crafted, and it need specialist just to make the item, this is not good

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Its made worse by the fact that all the new dungeons drop i185 gear. So yeah exclusively glamor gear. And still doomed.

So the only new useful items are those white ilvl 185 with no materia slots that are little better than unmelded ilvl 180? Also they give much more crafting materials for ooids/tokens now... So basically, everyone who spent the time until 3.1 crafting his own crafter/gatherer stuff to be ready for 3.1 just wasted his time?

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Originally Posted by Alexiell

So basically, everyone who spent the time until 3.1 crafting his own crafter/gatherer stuff to be ready for 3.1 just wasted his time?

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Not at all, they have a head start on being ready for 3.2! :rolleyes:
OK, I know, that's not what anyone wants to hear. But it's the best that can be made of the situation.

i spiritbonded 3 pirate craft stuff : 2 of them turn in IV materia, ther Other one was a V materia.
So yes you can use the pirates stuff to get V materia.
It's soon to say the drop rate^^.
the spiritbond is slow, 1 Diademe instance to got 90% for NQ pirate stuff and spiritbond potion, 1 diademe to get HQ pirate stuff 100% spiritbonded.
New dungeon give 10% spiritbond with spiritbond potion.
Din't try in Void Arch

The question is do we get T5 crafting/gathering gear :<

Will this save crafting? Yes. It is now alive and not dead. How good a life it is can be debated, but this definitely brings crafting back to life. There are already more i185 items on the MB currently than there were i180 that sold over the entire time they were available (which basically was zero). The biggest mistake SE made in 3.05 was making the mats too hard to get.

There is plenty of market for "good enough to get you into 24-man raids" gear. I made my fortune primarily selling i90 for many months, even after i110 had been released, all the way up until Heavensward dropped. The two key things needed are good enough ilvl to do content and affordability. It is a little early to say how much the mats will cost, but my gut feeling is it won't be too horrible.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

Will this save crafting? Yes. It is now alive and not dead. How good a life it is can be debated, but this definitely brings crafting back to life. There are already more i185 items on the MB currently than there were i180 that sold over the entire time they were available (which basically was zero). The biggest mistake SE made in 3.05 was making the mats too hard to get.

There is plenty of market for "good enough to get you into 24-man raids" gear. I made my fortune primarily selling i90 for many months, even after i110 had been released, all the way up until Heavensward dropped. The two key things needed are good enough ilvl to do content and affordability. It is a little early to say how much the mats will cost, but my gut feeling is it won't be too horrible.

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Maybe on your sever but mine that gear is anything but affordable and dungeon gear is the same ill so there is that too.

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Originally Posted by Ranzan

Maybe on your sever but mine that gear is anything but affordable and dungeon gear is the same ill so there is that too.

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It's not affordable yet, but nothing is in the first week. We can see that the materials are actually obtainable, which is a key ingredient we have not had since 3.05. Give it a few weeks or a month or two and I think we might see some reasonable prices. It's kind of hard to make a good guess at this point.

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

It's not affordable yet, but nothing is in the first week. We can see that the materials are actually obtainable, which is a key ingredient we have not had since 3.05. Give it a few weeks or a month or two and I think we might see some reasonable prices. It's kind of hard to make a good guess at this point.

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So you're saying we should wait till close to the patch that make this gear even more irrelevant for it to be more affordable? This is not saving crafting at all if we have to wait till right before the next patch for this stuff to be affordable. That's is a epic failure. Plus the demand is getting shafted for the facts that it's the same ilvl as the new dungeon gear, no materia slots and behind multiple specifications.

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Originally Posted by Ranzan

So you're saying we should wait till close to the patch that make this gear even more irrelevant for it to be more affordable? This is not saving crafting at all if we have to wait till right before the next patch for this stuff to be affordable. That's is a epic failure. Plus the demand is getting shafted for the facts that it's the same ilvl as the new dungeon gear, no materia slots and behind multiple specifications.

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First of all, we don't know how long it will take for affordability. What if it's only 2 weeks?

Second, I sold a metric crap ton of "irrelevant" i90 gear in 2.55. If the gear is good enough to jump start people into endgame and affordable, it will have its uses. The only way these become completely irrelevant in the next patch is if the next tier of crafted mats is cheap and plentiful enough that there is no longer a budget niche for i185.

finaly i get to spiritbond 2 others pirate item and got a other V materia,
so 5 pirate stuff i got 3 IV materia , and 2 V materia. maybe the drop is not bad

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Originally Posted by giantslayer

First of all, we don't know how long it will take for affordability. What if it's only 2 weeks?

Second, I sold a metric crap ton of "irrelevant" i90 gear in 2.55. If the gear is good enough to jump start people into endgame and affordable, it will have its uses. The only way these become completely irrelevant in the next patch is if the next tier of crafted mats is cheap and plentiful enough that there is no longer a budget niche for i185.

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ILvl 90 gear were inexpensive to make cause the mats were easier to get and the recipes were not gated by a specialist system so the cost to make them weren't inflated.

Both the ilvl90 (during 2.5) and the new sky pirate gear main function is glamour. Right now there are way to many better options for gear atm. Now they are too high for glamour and this specialist system is not saving nothing. :mad:

800k is the going rate for this gear on my server unless there is only 1 seller. Then it is up to 2.5mil. The gear gets gatherers into diadem , and sells well for that reason alone. The mats are 100-275k nq-hq. This already has done more sales then i180 had.

As others have pointed out, it also spirit binds in 1-2 diadem runs for tiv-v materia that also sells quite well.