I cried when I saw leveling in 1.19

Well, considering I enjoy XIV and have never enjoyed a bioware game...I say you're wrong.

Gosh! nice bio!

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Originally Posted by Nikita

I love a chubby man that smells of body odor and old pizza... Naked and sweaty with boobs larger than an average woman's... Oh Neptune I want to tie you up and bake cookies on your large hairy chest... I might just have to come to Besaid knowing you are there... Grinding away on rank 70s like a real man...

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UUuuhhhm, i think if you read this sentence I'm copy/pasting: I even met my future husband around one of the campfires in Ronfaure and we got married in game. Then I think unless the player is homosexual, the OP is a girl.

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Originally Posted by Sagagemini

You dont have to do that.
You can still xp the old fashion way, and take weeks to get to 50.
But at least now we get to choose if we want to waste our time grinding or not.

It's all about the end game.

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One of the big differences is with this game the more 50's you have the more rounded your character is. Those who get a bunch of 50's the cheap way will have that advantage over those who choose to rank up by more traditional methods.

If this was a game where levels didn't matter this wouldn't be so much of an issue. This however is a game where having multiple classes ranked up matters a lot.

Also those who worked hard to get multiple classes ranked up have had their work cheapened. Honestly I thought leveling up before 1.19 was too easy. I was blown away when I seen this nonsense.

You are my goddamned hero, sir.

That is all.

44 responses, like... 2 acknowledgements. I salute you.

WTF is this.

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Originally Posted by Aion

so you work hard to get your 50 in broken state period of this game, and you want other to experience the same thing?

I want your opinion, do leveling pre 1.19 was fun?

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Yeah, considering how still easy it was to rank up then.

Leves gave you a lot of sp at the end of them. And partying was central to ranking up.
I don't see so many parties now, and people are leveling up left and right by power leveling and the rate at which we level up from experience. What's surprising is that they didn't increase the exp you get from crafting.. what the hell.

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Originally Posted by Altera

UUuuhhhm, i think if you read this sentence I'm copy/pasting: I even met my future husband around one of the campfires in Ronfaure and we got married in game. Then I think unless the player is homosexual, the OP is a girl.

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Wow, you took my post as seriously as the op.

How do some of these people even figure out how to turn their computers on.

Wow.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

I cried when I saw leveling in 1.19.

Before I tell you why, let me tell you a little about myself. I was born in Decatur, Alabama to a family of 6. I was the 4th of 5 kids. My oldest brother got into a gang in our small city and was shot by police in 1998. My two older brothers and sister didn't finish high school and currently work in factories in the Decatur area. I was the first person in my family to go to college and graduate with an associate's degree in business management. During college I worked at Taco Bell and became shift leader after 3 months. After I graduated I became general manager of the new Taco Bell that opened up on the other side of town. My mom is disabled and an alcoholic. My dad lives in Michigan and I didn't see him much growing up. I've come the farthest in life out of my family but my life isn't the greatest. I make enough to pay the bills and live in a decent apartment but I'm not rich or famous.

My first experience with an MMO was in 2001 with EverQuest. I was addicted right away. It was like nothing I had ever experienced. I played for hours almost every night. Dying and losing your body and sometimes getting stuck trying to get it back.. playing with dozens of other people at once.. let's just say I was hooked.

I had been a fan of Final Fantasy after playing Final Fantasy VII on my older brother's PlayStation. When Final Fantasy XI came out and I read about it in magazines, I was immediately intrigued. I bought the game upon release and I played it right up until the time Abyssea came out. That game used to be amazing. You could get lost in it for hours and everything felt like it had a purpose. I was one of the first non-Japanese to get the Maat's cap on my server. Everything in that game was perfectly balanced. You worked hard to get the best gear in that game and years later your hard work was still valid. I spent a long time farming sky, sea, and Dynamis to upgrade my relic bow and AFv2 armor. I even met my future husband around one of the campfires in Ronfaure and we got married in game. It was some of the best times I've had in my life. But when they came out with Abyssea they completely ruined the game. The whole game was balanced around level 75 and within a few weeks after Abyssea not only was the whole game on e-z mode but people were leveling off exp chains in Abyssea, going from level 30-75 in 2 days.

When FFXIV was announced I was very excited. I had been saving up money so I could afford to buy a good Alienware computer with a good graphics card to play it. I bought the Collector's Edition upon release. My whole linkshell from XI went to XIV, but after the bad reviews nearly everyone quit and went back to XI, some going to Aion, and others to WoW and Rift. I decided to stay with XIV and waited patiently for them to add content to the game. Darkhold was good, but it was too easy and I was really looking forward to this patch.

So 1.19 added exp chains and links, which are great, but the bonuses you get make leveling too easy, especially when you have 1 or 2 high level characters in pt. You should get at most 450 exp per mob. It used to take 2 weeks to level to 50 after the skill point patch but now you can level to 50 within a few days.

This totally breaks the game. I had to work hard to get to 50, playing every night for at least 2 weeks and sometimes putting aside things I needed to do. One time I let the trash pile up and I didn't take the trash out for 2 weeks. My house smelled a little bad but it was worth it. Try eating pizza for 2 weeks straight while you have the thrill of being one of the first people to 50, or taking your second character to 50. Or taking vacation time to be one of the first to do something and now someone can just power level to 50 in a few nights. It completely breaks the sense of all that I've accomplished in this game. My life has sucked enough SE, please don't take away the one thing that has brought a little happiness to it.

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Based on your posting history, I imagine you cry a lot over just about anything. So the impact of this thread is sort of lost on me.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

Based on your posting history, I imagine you cry a lot. So the impact of this thread is sort of lost on me.

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sad isn't it? games are srs business I guess.

Yeah, I'm not really sure why the sob story was necessary. Many many people grow up in bad situations, some way worse than yours. Your post makes it seem like you're using your struggles in life to bring some sort of validity to your point, which seems pretty pathetic to me.

I'm sorry your life sucks, Neptune...but that isn't SE's responsibility. Neptune is Neptune's responsibility.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I'm sorry your life sucks, Neptune...but that isn't SE's responsibility. Neptune is Neptune's responsibility.

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Excellent post.
I still don't see the point of the sob story, OP made it seem relevant to the post on his first sentence.

I agree that the feeling of achievement of FFXI was as you say.

But....

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Originally Posted by Neptune

I had to work hard to get to 50, playing every night for at least 2 weeks and sometimes putting aside things I needed to do.

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I have a hard time reconciling "work hard to get to 50" and "2 weeks".

I Can understand the achievement thing, but I've never got the woohoo look at me i grind'd day and night an ignored my health, social life and personal hygiene to play a computer game..

I much prefer the EvE style.. or a system where you don't have to just grind up to a number as fast as possible to do the content.
I would prefer to progress though content from the start, having challenges constantly being presented and so even that thing you did months ago when you were new, if you go back is still something that is fun, as you don't just 1shot everything its still a challenge and worthwhile .
It should be a lot easier but meh... Not so easy its pointless..
It removes repeatable content from the game in many respects..

Games just making you level up is a very poor and easy way out for devs..
While grinding will always be a major part of MMO's a more content and featured based approach is where games should be heading. AoC tried this and from what people said it was a good idea..

So how about we encourage the Dev's to provide fun and engaging challenging for group and solo, but just monotonous mob killing that is well...

As for the OP's personal situation, well its yours, seems you had it rough, but that dosnt mean you should use those facts to try and validate an Opinion of how this game or anything else should be. Sorry.

Sob story, wtf?

Seriously though, if you're that consumed by a game that all you ate was pizza and neglected to take out the trash I think you have far far far worse issues than powerleveling in game. If you took off vacation time and had sleepless nights, played for days on end while the game was (and still is to many) considered broken... then GG that's your own fault.

There is no award for being the first to level 50, there is not accomplishment. I think you need to see a counselor if you actually "cried" when you saw the leveling for 1.19 as you might have some serious emotional or addiction problems. Now I'm fairly positive you didn't really cry but you get my drift.

I for one knew the game would change and didn't spend countless hours and waste my life sitting around during the broken time of FFXIV. Now I'm reaping the benefits of easy xp and better content. It's called thinking ahead.

This whole post is a little mean on my part but your thread was kinda pathetic. Sorry you had a messed up life, but why would you ever share it with the Internet and why would you think anyone cares. There are about 100 other PL is broken threads on the forum.... IMO you should close this.

this is not troll question but how long are they keeping those chicken flat-bread sandwiches? at tacobell

The OP's point was she worked hard to be where she is in real life just as she worked hard to get to 50 ingame, and she hates the fact that people now have an easier time getting to 50 when she had to work hard to get to it.

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Originally Posted by Pyrix

The OP's point was she worked hard to be where she is in real life just as she worked hard to get to 50 ingame, and she hates the fact that people now have an easier time getting to 50 when she had to work hard to get to it.

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I know that, but FFXIV isn't real life.

In my opinion you're barking up the wrong tree in both FFXI's Abyssea or the leveling after 1.19.

If people want to take their time leveling they still can, nothing stops them. People, however, want a fast way of leveling and they've gotten it. Much like in Abyssea, nobody was preventing you from not using the boosts from NPC"s. By all means if you wanted a "challenge" in that respect you could easily have one.

That being said, I hope they don't go back to the leveling the way it was. Before 1.19 anybody could kill mobs 10lvls above them and go from 1-50 relatively quickly, nothing has changed now.

Also, it's not like FFXI was immune from leveling in such a manner and I didn't hear you touch upon it when you were talking about how amazing it was pre Abyssea.

FFXI has always had power leveling. Before Abyssea it involved 1 or more white mages or red mages leveling a party or a group of people, sometimes even a singular person. Then there were the infamous Summoner Burn Parties which made people level up very quickly. Abyssea alliances certainly made the grind easier but it didn't make doing the endgame content any easier- or knowing how to play your job for that matter.

I'm very sorry if I sound harsh, that isn't my intent. However, please understand FFXI was far from well balanced and perfect the way you make it sound.

FFXIV needs a lot of TLC until it is worth paying for. This current leveling system may yet change and it probably will (at least i hope) but for right now, I'm ok with the power leveling because it isn't being shoved down my throat and quite frankly, it's not being shoved down your throat either.

I power leveled people on my White Mage a lot before. It was boring though so I never did it often.

OP, WTF?!

Did you expect people would feel sorry about you? None gives a shit about your story and it has nothing with the game.
Go find some therapist and talk to him.

I love OP, hope SE reads all these threads. There are hundreds of veteran FF players who hate this PL stuff, it needs to be fixed asap. I knew allowing outside-pt attacking with full exp gains was gonna really mess up some things.

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Originally Posted by AkayoAkayu

There are hundreds of veteran FF players who hate this PL stuff, it needs to be fixed asap.

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<-- veteran FF player who likes "this PL stuff", and does not think it needs fixing.

OP, maybe it's best to step away from the game and do something else for a while. It's all about balance.

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I love OP, hope SE reads all these threads. There are hundreds of veteran FF players who hate this PL stuff, it needs to be fixed asap.

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Another vet FF player who disagrees that it's in need of a fix. Where exactly are you getting this "hundreds" from? All we have even seen here is a relative vocal minority pitching a fit. Nothing even close to hundreds.

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

Another vet FF player who disagrees that it's in need of a fix. Where exactly are you getting this "hundreds" from? All we have even seen here is a relative vocal minority pitching a fit. Nothing even close to hundreds.

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"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George W. Bush

A lot of this thread seems like a personal problem.. if being Lv50 is an accomplishment you hold dear, I'm sorry LOL

anyway, everyone needs to do this.

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Originally Posted by Alkoun

Waitwaitwait...

Everyone click this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNvFP...eature=related

Then re-read the OP while it plays.

Is it better now?

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It really DOES make it better.

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