Start working on your relics <3

What I'm wondering is whether they will incorporate eso weapons...

Its just sad that its come to this level. I have my opinion on the relics. No one should get a handout. It should have been enjoyable and a grind and everyone should obtain it equally without a nerf.

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

What I'm wondering is whether they will incorporate eso weapons...

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It's possible, since them and the 2.X relics are the only weapons restricted to jobs.

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Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Its just sad that its come to this level. I have my opinion on the relics. No one should get a handout. It should have been enjoyable and a grind and everyone should obtain it equally without a nerf.

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You still fail to realize that no one would have ever done it came Heavensward if it stayed the same, and that relics are irrelevant now when it comes to stats...but it's not like there's already a whole thread trying to explain that to you...

Reynhart: Again it doesnt have to go that route. You know it I know it yet the dev choose to ignore it and make it more casual friendly taking away all the hard work everyone invested. Its whatever now though its unchangable.

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Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Reynhart: Again it doesnt have to go that route. You know it I know it yet the dev choose to ignore it and make it more casual friendly taking away all the hard work everyone invested. Its whatever now though its unchangable.

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/sigh
What I know is that I've worked for my relic and the reward I had from it was one the best weapons for the whole duration of 2.x. And I actually don't care about people doing it now.
Like I said in your topic, It's like caring that people can buy games for cheap, whereas I bought mine full price 2 years ago...Why...do...you...care ?

And you know the worst part ? Let's say you have to farm dungeons, FATE, or whatever the content you want for a new weapon.
Let's say you have to do the same content to improve you Relic to be on par with the new weapon.
Do you realize that it's absolutely the same, except for the name of your weapon ?

Wether you start a new relic, with a new look, obtained by turning your existing relic into a Key Item (Pretty much what happened from Relic to Zodiac) or a new relic from scratch, you'll still have all the weapon upgrade process you like.

And besides, there is no relic for the three new jobs. Is it fine to keep those three jobs away, if the relic is so important ? Is it fine to make them grind hours for a weapon that is "only" level 135 at best ?

Or is it fine that you complain about how they wasted the relic before even knowing if they ever do something with them after 3.1 ?!

Skizzle, you have a whole thread you've established which frankly has very clearly displayed your displeasure of the choices regarding relics that SE has made. Please don't start derailing every relic thread that comes along. Use the thread you've already made if you want to continue that dialog.

glamour isnt a waste of time imo

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Originally Posted by SevenHeavens

glamour isnt a waste of time imo

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agreed! :p

Pleass hydelen, brd bow with crit, or maybe even stats of my choice, and ilvl 200..


lan happy.

I just really want to be able to choose my own stats, that way I can pile on accuracy...Scholar problems...

Oh yeah, in before Relic is i200/i205

That feeling when you haven't even finished your first zodiac because of the company seal bottleneck.

And because you're out of gil.

If you want to keep your sanity DO NOT start relics, lol
I have 2 Zetas and the rest are either Animus or Novus and actually tossed my Nin scroll out i was so fed up of the nonsense

Nope, not doing that.

Have fun though.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

In a recent interview Yoshida stated that Zeta owners will be able to skip the starting phase, it's still not 100% though.

Source.

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Depending on how annoying the beginning phase is (watch us need high level crafted stuff that costs a fortune), this could be a blessing or MEH.

https://imgflip.com/i/pztek

Hopefully I did that right lol

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Originally Posted by Nep_Nep

I still believe Zeta's can be used as the base for the weapon.
Like use a crafted weapon with materia in it or a Zeta.
And Zeta stats would carry over if you use a Zeta.

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This is probably the most realistic assessment. You will likely have to meld/craft a weapon like the previous quest however if you have zeta you will likely skip past that step.

Overall I'd say doing your relic at this point would be a waste of time unless you want the glamour or just have nothing else to do.

Personally I just wished that the relic was more like the very first relic we did: it was a long, but fun quest line to follow with lots of steps in it and lots of things to do and run, but I never felt it hard the least.

They should try something the same way: more about story (I thought this was Final Fantasy) and less about mindless and frustrating grinding....buuut I already expect the worse of the worse.

I'm going to stay in sheets and tremble of fear as 3.1 will come out. Just like all of the other patches x)

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Originally Posted by Miscreant

in before Relic is i200/i205

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I think i210+ is a safe bet, since that's the top current weapon level. The odd numbered major patches have made top level gear from the previous major patch easy to get. Eso weapon upgrade to i210 will likely come in the new 24 man raid, I don't see relic being weaker than that.

I can almost guarantee the relic will be lvl 200 on release (after you complete the whole quest) and upgraded to 210 at the end of 4.1. That's been the system they've been following to maintain the treadmill and the relic usually hits bis right before the next raid patch comes for like a few weeks and then the next raid will have the best weapon and then a few months later the relic will get another boost and so on and so forth.

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Originally Posted by Dante_V

I can almost guarantee the relic will be lvl 200 on release (after you complete the whole quest) and upgraded to 210 at the end of 4.1. That's been the system they've been following to maintain the treadmill and the relic usually hits bis right before the next raid patch comes for like a few weeks and then the next raid will have the best weapon and then a few months later the relic will get another boost and so on and so forth.

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Over a year to upgrade it past 200? >.>

The new question that comes in with this RELIC is that almost no one is going to beat Alex Savage unless the gear we get makes it face roll easy within a good amount of time.
Coil was doable but Relic is pretty insane so I think they will make the RELIC pretty good just like the last one if you do it right and get it done quickly. I can't wait for relic it is just one more thing to do each day. Luckliy we still have a lot of jobs to level right now but that is soon going to come to a halt when relic comes out because that will shift the focus again until the first one gets completed. I just really hope they have better and more interesting things for us to do with the time that we have to invest.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Over a year to upgrade it past 200? >.>

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At least this way you know for sure it's all about the glamor =D

Here are my guesses:
1. Need drops from Bis EX and Ravana EX
2. Another Book system where we need to complete FATES, Dungeons, maybe even hunt mobs now with the Skyship exploration content. Oh no....
3. Dravanian ATMA Dragon soul Crystals or something like that.
4. Head start will be that completed Zetas will be the BASE weapon for us and the rest will have to do like in the original quest and go find it in the beast tribe stong hold and kill the mobs and all that.
Good luck to us all with this and hope they don't jack us big time on this and give us something that makes us not even want to do it.

Honestly I'm not expecting the first part of the relic to be extremely difficult. At worst we'll once again need a base. I'm expecting you'll be able to use your Zeta, your esoteric, or a crafted weapon.

I remember them saying it was going to be easier to approach, which likely means the base won't be extremely difficult.

Once we start upgrading it I am fully anticipating hell.

I had no problem with the beginning phase.

I had no qualms about chasing the stones of Atma.

When I got to the books, I wanted nothing more to do with it. The FATEs pissed me off the most. I remember turning off my computer out of sheer frustration. Missing a FATE by seconds is among the worst of grievances that can happen to someone who needs them. EDIT: Especially when it's recurring. It makes you lose your fucking mind.

I sincerely hope there are no godsdamned books for this new relic.

Reynhart: Or you can make it a collectors item that you cant get cheap isntead you buy it now and its still has the same value later if not more. Thats kinda what im trying to get too.

I wish you had to fight a boss for each step and that's all.
We will get 2.0 relic quest in heavenward zones, it's gonna suck and be grindy but because of the grind will be the only relevant content in the game except for Alexander savage.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

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