So whose ready to remove ranks?

If you want pvp gear earn it just like the rest of us and stop complaining

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

It proves how bad the system actually is.

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The system is fine, if it keeps nubs out that just want gear and mounts instead of enjoying PvP then good.

Grind for it.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Grind for it.

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yup, that's that
/thread.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

And the next set of gear will be rankless as well when the new set comes out. It also still costs tokens, what its worth to its ilvl.

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I don't care with current pvp gear, they're plain and don't have unique as animal set. I spend all my seal for ilv110 weapon and some ilv100 gear.

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Originally Posted by Eul

I don't care with current pvp gear, they're plain and don't have unique as animal set. I spend all my seal for ilv110 weapon and some ilv100 gear.

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That isn't why i'm complaining fully. Here is the deal.

The current level 60 gear, is locked behind rank. Which is a ton (a ton) of matches. Each match is about 15 minutes. So to grind to max rank to even use the gear that is 5250 minutes, which does not include the wait you actually have to sit through (YES EVEN IN ADDERS!) to get into PvP.

87.5 hours, plus probably more of straight grinding. That is ridiculous just to get a set of PvP gear with the stats you need to PvP.

What they should of done, is remove rank requirements off gear. Made ranking system actually give you things like:

"PvP Skills"
"PvP Titles: The Destroyer, High General, ect ect."
"PvP Mounts, or Saddles"

However, it is currently ridiculous. You get way more tokens then your ever going to need to get the rank to even use the gear.

I only hope that this is temporary until the next PvP ilvl 210 set comes out.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

anip

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And for the set before that you had to do the same thing to rank 45, but now all you need to do is AFK in matches and you get it for free

also the next gear set will probably be locked behind ranked match performance, not character pvp rank

also the pvp sets have never been the optimal gear to use after morale was changed as a whole, if you want BiS gear you need to mix and match pve gear aswell, including i148 in some cases

Your replies to comments are false and trying to hard to prove your point. The fact is, you are being a child and screaming, "i want it, I want it, I want it!!". Well if you want it so bad then go get it you big baby. You clearly don't want it bad enough. I am done with you, until I myself hit max rank and at which point I will send you sweet shots of my awesome gear.

Remove the gc's, not the ranks.

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Originally Posted by Etiken

Your replies to comments are false and trying to hard to prove your point. The fact is, you are being a child and screaming, "i want it, I want it, I want it!!". Well if you want it so bad then go get it you big baby. You clearly don't want it bad enough. I am done with you, until I myself hit max rank and at which point I will send you sweet shots of my awesome gear.

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Eh, in a few months I will be able to wear it too.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

That is ridiculous just to get a set of PvP gear with the stats you need to PvP.

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Hey, I found the misconception! PVP gear is absolutely not needed to PVP. Gear is the absolute last factor in what makes for a good PVPer.

The number one thing is having good tactics. Knowing when to pull out of encounters and when to push are key to winning matches.

Number two is individual fighting skill. Knowing which abilities to use and when to use them so that you can survive encounters and kill enemies.

Last is gear. Having good stats does make a minor difference, but the PVP gear often doesn't even have the best stats for PVP. At the very least, you can easily be a competitive PVPer with just Law gear.

The main purpose of the PVP gear is to be a status symbol for the people that worked their asses off to earn the ranks to equip that gear. It's not about the stats on the gear, it's about the time and effort put in to use it.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Ranks are horrible in this game with no conceivable way of earning them in a timely frame. I've been pvping every day for the past 7 weeks and i'm only rank 18 and the rank system keeps climbing up, and this is all just to wear ilvl 180 gear that I already have ilvl 200-190. I am sure some masochistic character will play every day for 20 hours a day PvPing to earn these ranks, but i'm not willing to do that.

Honestly, the rank system in this game is one of the most horrible systems i've ever seen. At least let us glamour the gear.

Might as well rename the description:

"Cannot equip until next year."

If it was ilvl 200 gear I would understand the serious requirement. However currently its way beyond anything for mostly appearance gear. Its a rant, take it how you like it.

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Dont you have enough having Rank 45 Stuff for free?
Please casual, cry me a river.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Eh, in a few months I will be able to wear it too.

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That's the spirit. Now that... is something I cannot deprive you of, dreams. Sleep well my friend, sleep well.

ITT: OP complains about imaginary problem.

Gear, ranks? the important is fun battles, hunt healers, hunt bards... hunt and kill! enjoy the kills! follow ypour prey and catch it!! pure adrenaline! more damage will be the better ^^U well is not the theme here... just enjoy with the depradation be a hunter and kill the enemies when they try to scape you! and when they are nearly to be saved... ZAS kill them! the glorious sense... unpredictible oponents and preys, killing or be killed, this is the awesome thing of pvp and for what i love it!

pls no, all we have is the ranks.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

You get way more tokens then your ever going to need

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Well not really if you lvlup GMS or any other desynth, that burns WM's pretty damn fast D:

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Originally Posted by Farrell

Remove the gc's, not the ranks.

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For the sake of queue times. The only time there's games popping up in less than 10 minutes is in the evening/night.

As to op, rank 18 takes like couple evenings. 1-2 games a day is hardly a grind with your pace.

"I want all of the benefits given to the active niche PvP community without contributing or participating in any meaningful way. Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!" - OP

Square has already thrown you a bone with removing the rank requirements on last year's gear. Completely trivializing and taking the fun out of ranking up right until 45+.

You can either put in the blood sweat and tears and grind you way up to rank 50 or if you're really just wanting the outfits for RP then you can wait for Square to give you another handout. Do you demand being given raid gear without putting in the time too?

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Originally Posted by HorseBoots

Square has already thrown you a bone with removing the rank requirements on last year's gear. Completely trivializing and taking the fun out of ranking up right until 45+.

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Nothing is good enough for these people that want it all with no effort ><

Five bucks says OP votes Democrat and/or is 12 years old.

We don't need/want players like you in pvp. Please uninstall. Thank you.

Maybe try Candy Crush?

This thread has to be trolling.... it has to be :S

So if u want rank requirement removed for pvp gear can I buy raid gear with regular tomes then kthx? I don't wanna do raids but I want highend stuff for vanity.
For same reason raid gear is locked behind progression pvp gear is locked behind ranks doh

The best thing about the Rank 50 gear is causing lightning strikes.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...dd&oe=563BF2AC

Also, the fireworks shows are purely for us who have made it to Rank 50.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bc&oe=566EDF59

SE have promised statues to be placed at the Wolves Den Pier in honour of those who reach Rank 50.

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Originally Posted by Ortamus

The best thing about the Rank 50 gear is causing lightning strikes.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...dd&oe=563BF2AC

Also, the fireworks shows are purely for us who have made it to Rank 50.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bc&oe=566EDF59

SE have promised statues to be placed at the Wolves Den Pier in honour of those who reach Rank 50.

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rofl! More of this please.

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Originally Posted by Ortamus

The best thing about the Rank 50 gear is causing lightning strikes.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...dd&oe=563BF2AC

Also, the fireworks shows are purely for us who have made it to Rank 50.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bc&oe=566EDF59

SE have promised statues to be placed at the Wolves Den Pier in honour of those who reach Rank 50.

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You also forgot the cool ride most rank 50s have. That one day might fly :) Also One like is not enough.

I'm actually fine with this. Because my rank is so damn high in PvP (I played a LOT when it first came out), my queues take longer than 3 hours. No seriously. 3 hours. As a tank.

Just because I play a lot does not mean I'm good. In fact, I did all my PvP battles as a white mage.

I'd like Ranks to be removed, and replaced with actual Ranks...

Currently, Ranks are effectively just a PvP Level, that is pretty much meaningless. Anyone can grind/wintrade to Rank 50, it isn't hard.

I'd rather see Ranks turned into an indicator of how good you are, with the gear then being a instant indication/actual trophy, instead of "Look at me, I can grind Frontlines!". Rather than grinding to Rank 50 and PvP EXP effectively being gone, make it so each Kill increases your Rank, and each Death reduces it. Factor in overall win rate (which I'd like to minimize, since I have no control over the other 23 Adders that throw themselves at a 20% Node and then act shocked when the other other team decides to take that chance to sandwich and completely annihilate them... Perhaps have the final place your team gets as a modifier... You got 6 Kills (600EXP) and 1 Death (-100EXP), with 1st being x2, 2nd x1.5, and last x1, for example), and have it so your Rank naturally decreases over time, and we have a system that not only rewards good players, but creates a constant incentive to play. Right now you can grind your way to Rank 50 very easily, buy all the gear, and never touch PvP again. That's broken and stupid, IMO.

Granted, making Ranks based on Kill/Deaths is entirely unbalanced and not at all a good idea because of healers, but you get the idea. When SE listens/pays me to come up with suggestions, I'll put more effort into them, until then this is just an example. Could probably easily fix it by throwing in an Assists system, but whatever...

Is this troll thread or are you in serious manner?

Just wonder :p

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I've been pvping every day for the past 7 weeks and i'm only rank 18

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Let it be remembered that this has been said.

To put it in context, everyday, you get between 600 and 800 pvp experience, lets assume he lost every single time and multiply 600 by 49 and it makes almost 30.000 exp. that is what is required for rank 23. and that is if he only did one game a day, and lost it. Every. Single. Time. (And I cab to calculate the bonuses given by the challenge log, as they change for every rank) Now lets be real. In 7 weeks, you should have gotten a rank 40 easily (which is around 90.000 exp). If you do not want to put the effort, you don't deserve the rewards. Be happy you can equip the epic looking liege gear.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

87.5 hours, plus probably more of straight grinding.

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I'm not sure what games you play but I can blink and spend that long in a game... don't even wanna /ptime on this game.
If you don't like waiting for queues raise some Pokemon or fish while you wait.

How about this... remove the removal of rank requirements from ALL old gear... so that people like you can't parade around in gear you didn't earn?

Didn't think so, you already got 45 ranks worth of handouts... get lost.

The gear is a reward for those who actually put the effort in to do PvP. You're going to need to do a lot of grinding just to buy all the gear and weapons, so you may as well deal with it. Start buying the old 110 glamour pieces while you rank up, that'll keep you occupied. How is removing ranks and suddenly making all the work all of us who have been doing PvP for over a year now worthless a good thing? 7 weeks.... HA!

I actually did FL every day and in 3 weeks I'm rank 33.

Rank should go faster imo. They are obviously there to make people grind for vanity gear. I'd rather base rank on wins. Like in you cant rank up unless you win a battle.

10 wins = rank 5. 20 wins = rank 7. And so on. Tis could make vanity grinders try harder to win.

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Originally Posted by Guesswhat

Rank should go faster imo. They are obviously there to make people grind for vanity gear. I'd rather base rank on wins. Like in you cant rank up unless you win a battle.

10 wins = rank 5. 20 wins = rank 7. And so on. Tis could make vanity grinders try harder to win.

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Faster? No. The old gear should still require rank, in jubs opinion. Make people earn that look that they are seeking in vanity PvP gear.

And the r45+ gear isn't just vanity gear. While morale/materia don't work in Frontlines (which is stupid yes) the PvP i180 gear sets have something the PvE sets don't. Higher dmg potential. You don't need nearly as much ACC as PvE gear puts out. If you are DD/Tank going into Frontlines with your mass ACC PvE setup... stop going, or listen and make an effort to do it right. 420ish ACC and good to go... pile on the DET/SS/CRIT which the PvP i180 sets provide.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

What they should of done, is remove rank requirements off gear. Made ranking system actually give you things like:

"PvP Skills".

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When you rank up you get points to enhance skills, I think you have no idea what you're doing. I hope they never release rank requirements on gear again so it keeps people like you out.

Not just skills, but stats as well ;)

The original system required you to unlock the skills with rank points first, it was pretty silly (also the upgrades varied in cost, up to 7 per upgrade iirc)

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Originally Posted by AbandonHopeTD

When you rank up you get points to enhance skills, I think you have no idea what you're doing. I hope they never release rank requirements on gear again so it keeps people like you out.

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It doesn't keep people out. It makes people "AbandonHope" (see what I did there?) to them. I was more talking about PvP Talent Points. Passive abilities or strength or something that keep you stronger in PvP.