Airship Guide

Just another data point on unlocking sectors. Rank 18->19, visiting 5, 6, 4 (3? the one on the left), unlocked sector 11 (after exploring 6, IIRC, but that notice doesn't show up in the log now that I've finalized it once). Have not unlocked sectors 7 or 8 yet. Enterprise Forecastle, all other parts Invincible.

Leveled up today from 20 to 23. We unlocked Airship 2 and Sector 11 at the same time.

Last voyage was Sector 7,8,6,3. Components on last voyage was Enterprise Hull, Bronco Sail, Bronco Forecastle, Enterprise Aftcastle.

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Originally Posted by kenventa

Leveled up today from 20 to 23. We unlocked Airship 2 and Sector 11 at the same time.

Last voyage was Sector 7,8,6,3. Components on last voyage was Enterprise Hull, Bronco Sail, Bronco Forecastle, Enterprise Aftcastle.

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Have you been using a bronco forecastle the entire time? With an Enterprise aftcastle you must have 62 Surveillance. We are trying to figure out if surveillance is important for unlocking sectors or if it is something else like a flight path. Any ideas?

I actually have an FC on an alt character that I was thinking of using for the sake of experimentation. I'd like to see how far it can get without improving surveillance at all.

R20-22 today, unlocked S8 after going S6 > S7.
http://puu.sh/iWlDe/00ae3bb941.jpg
Seems to make sense? that the sectors unlock based on proximity.
Bronco hull + aftcastle, enterprise bladder + forecastle fwiw.

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Originally Posted by hqdm

R20-22 today, unlocked S8 after going S6 > S7.

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That was our path when it unlocked as well, I also think the proximity theory is starting to hold water. Keep those reports coming in!

Just curious, does it say anywhere in your flight log that sector 8 was unlocked? For us, previous sectors showed up in the flight log when they were unlocked but not sector 8. Not sure if that has any significance at all.

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

Just curious, does it say anywhere in your flight log that sector 8 was unlocked? For us, previous sectors showed up in the flight log when they were unlocked but not sector 8. Not sure if that has any significance at all.

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I didn't see any mention of discovering a new zone in the flight report, no. I already sent it back out so I can't double check that though.

Im wondering if perhaps sector 8 is unlocked after completing your first new voyage after hitting rank 20.

Second airship opened after obtaining 23-25 rank on 8th sector exploration.
And Balsa wood lumber from 9th sector

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Im wondering if perhaps sector 8 is unlocked after completing your first new voyage after hitting rank 20.

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It's a huge puzzle XD The sector discovery question is a tad convoluted at the moment, with some sectors unlocking through voyages which appears in the flight log, and this case where sector 8 is unlocked after finalizing the report.

I nearly have all the bronco parts ready to go in my alt FC, my plan is to not upgrade any parts and see how far I can get on just bronco. If surveillance or another stat is important I will eventually hit a wall. On the other hand, if it just starts to get slow because I haven't upgraded anything that will let me rank up faster, but sectors are still being gradually unlocked, it would seem to disconfirm the idea that surveillance is important. Thinking about it a bit, seems a bit odd to not have some stat involved in finding sectors. Without that,wouldn't it be possible to fully explore without upgrading any parts? I suppose you would eventually be limited by your range.

It makes it a tad tricky that forecastle upgrades both surveillance and favor, it might be that favor is important and surveillance is a confounding factor. If I do hit a wall, Maybe I'll upgrade my Aftcastle to Enterprise before I add an invincible forecastle so that I can reduce surveillance by 12, to test favor independently.

Edit: And after reading that I realize I've left the realm of what a sane person would do to figure out a question about stats in a game :D But who needs sanity when you have SCIENCE!!!! \o/

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Originally Posted by Enseric

Second airship opened after obtaining 23-25 rank on 8th sector exploration.
And Balsa wood lumber from 9th sector

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Thank you, added!

And thanks for all the reports everyone, keep them coming \o/

I've been a bit slacking on taking note of the amount of component points available for each rank. I think it would be a great addition to your guide. I dont even recall if it was a linear increase or not. xD

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

I've been a bit slacking on taking note of the amount of component points available for each rank. I think it would be a great addition to your guide. I dont even recall if it was a linear increase or not. xD

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So far it is a linear increase, which is why I just have the basic stat bonuses/penalties in my stats section. All of the bonuses are in increments of 14, and all the penalties are in decrements of 4. If that changes I definitely will add more detail!

Hi! Thanks for the guide, we have our airship currently at Rank 17. In our last voyage we sent it to sectors 5 > 6. The interesting thing is that it brought 5x "Toy Box Schema" from Sector 5 (optimal retrieval level), as it isnt noted on the main guide, i though it would be important to share it :) It seems its a rare item from Sector 5.

I'm sorry if you weren't looking for this, since I skimmed this extremely quickly. But I have confirmation of an S rating to exist, if you need it. http://i.imgur.com/4Mjnq6e.png

What stats did you have when doing that voyage?

http://i.imgur.com/GsOHsqa.png
http://i.imgur.com/0hYrvSD.png
http://i.imgur.com/GgpIwSP.png

I had Bronco Rigging, Forecastle and Aftcastle. Invincible Hull. Rank 10.

Sector 7: normal retrieval levels resulting in average yield: 21 Cunning III materias.
Sector 4: normal retrieval levels resulting in average yield: 21 Guile III materias.
(retrieval stats at 70)

Rank 17-21
Sector 8 unlocked.

Seems my previous theory on that is incorrect. Didnt need to do a voyage after hitting rank 20 to unlock sector 8.
Just like the rest of you I didnt get any message saying I unlocked it.

Special rank up bonus I suppose? Might require visiting all previous sectors perhaps as well.


Speed stats testing:

[Sector 8 single voyage] (only the values shown in the log, didnt take actual trip)

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Speed 70-84
In order to reach sector 8:
5 uurs, 28 minutes -> 4 hours, 33 minutes

Return time:
26 hours, 28 minutes -> 24 hours, 3 minutes

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[Sector 7 single voyage]

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In order to reach sector 7: (Speed 70-84)
4 hours and 17 minutes -> 3 hours and 34 minutes

Return time:
22 hours and 17 minutes -> 20 hours and 34 minutes

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**note: when sending it on a voyage it says 5 hours for a survey of sector 7, how does this factor into these times?



[Full voyage 5 => 7 => 8 => 6]

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70 Speed:
Return time: 48 hours 25 minutes

84 Speed:
Return time: 42 hours 18 minutes:

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Also: Rank 21 ship = 32 airframe capacity
Seems like a linear +1 per rank increase.

So, first voyage after upgrading our survellience, we uncover sector 04 (going from 02 -> 03).

This no wind message seemed odd to me - "No wind or turbulence detected. 2 surveillance levels sufficient for exploration." I've never seen that line before...

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

This no wind message seemed odd to me - "No wind or turbulence detected. 2 surveillance levels sufficient for exploration." I've never seen that line before...

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There seem to be three weather conditions that we've encountered so far:

• Turbulence which results in "significantly hindered" exploratory capacity
• Winds which result in "slightly hindered"
• Calm weather (like you had)

My theory is that it influences whether you will find a 2nd item node or not. Still not sure what it means by "2 surveillance levels", I wonder if we will see that change as time goes on! People have speculated that favor might have something to do with the weather conditions you encounter. Maybe its not a coincidence that you are seeing this for the first time after upgrading forecastle? (+14 Favor)

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

So, first voyage after upgrading our survellience, we uncover sector 04 (going from 02 -> 03).

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Well that is pretty good support for surveillance being important for discovering sectors! \o/

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Originally Posted by Meoah

I had Bronco Rigging, Forecastle and Aftcastle. Invincible Hull. Rank 10.

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I think there must be some RNG to this, we had steady C's until we upgraded our Aftcastle and then we had steady A's. That lead me to believe aftcastle was fairly important for higher ratings. This could be a fluke but then again so might our results.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

when sending it on a voyage it says 5 hours for a survey of sector 7, how does this factor into these times?.

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I did a round of speed testing that looks very similar to your results. I came to the conclusion that an upgraded rigging and back-to-back trips would result in about 10-15% higher rate of exp, items, and rank-ups.

I think I solved the sector discovery reporting discrepancy XD Today we discovered sector 9, and it told us about the discovery both in the flight log and after we finalized the report. I'm wondering if this is typical behavior, and there might be a bug for sector 8.

Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.

If you still have your flight log from when you discovered sector 8, could you look and see if it mentions discovering sector 10 instead?

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Originally Posted by ZeroBoss

Hi! Thanks for the guide, we have our airship currently at Rank 17. In our last voyage we sent it to sectors 5 > 6. The interesting thing is that it brought 5x "Toy Box Schema" from Sector 5 (optimal retrieval level), as it isnt noted on the main guide, i though it would be important to share it :) It seems its a rare item from Sector 5.

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Awesome! I'll add it to the list! \o/ Did you find out what it is used for?

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.

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We had something similar happening to our FC airship a few weeks ago.
The flight report said "Discovered Sector 5", but sector 5 did NOT unlock.
What unlocked was sector 4.

I'm not sure if this is a typo, a glitch or what.

I have submited a bug report using the in-game feature for that, hopefully they'll fix this eventually, because airship unlocks are confusing already as it is, we shouldn't have to deal with this kind of typos/glitches..

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

Awesome! I'll add it to the list! \o/ Did you find out what it is used for?

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It's used as a component to craft "Toy Box", a housing item. Don't know if its useful apart from decorative purposes. I'll keep an eye on the guide and I'll report any "airship loots" that are not noted ^^

Btw in the flying report it says High-Quality Toy Box Schema so yea, confirmed its High quality item.

http://i.imgur.com/pBjPSEL.png

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

I think I solved the sector discovery reporting discrepancy XD Today we discovered sector 9, and it told us about the discovery both in the flight log and after we finalized the report. I'm wondering if this is typical behavior, and there might be a bug for sector 8.

Remember previously, I said that we discovered sector 8 and it did not show up in our report, but sector 10 DID show up in our report. I actually went to look at the sector map today... and we have no sector 10! I'm thinking when it reported that we found sector 10 in our flight log it was actually intended to be the message that should report sector 8.

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Oh, you're right. Ours says sector 10 too (I just realized you can view previous logs while it's in transit).
http://puu.sh/iXx0n/d99f7046c1.jpg
But we've not discovered S10 yet, which you can see in the previous screenshot.

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Originally Posted by aerolol

We had something similar happening to our FC airship a few weeks ago.
The flight report said "Discovered Sector 5", but sector 5 did NOT unlock.
What unlocked was sector 4.

I'm not sure if this is a typo, a glitch or what.

I have submited a bug report using the in-game feature for that, hopefully they'll fix this eventually, because airship unlocks are confusing already as it is, we shouldn't have to deal with this kind of typos/glitches..

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Originally Posted by hqdm

Oh, you're right. Ours says sector 10 too

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It's great to have confirmation XD I was doubting my memory until I saw my FC leader's screenshots of our flight log and double checked the sector map. I'll submit a bug report too!

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Originally Posted by ZeroBoss

Btw in the flying report it says High-Quality Toy Box Schema so yea, confirmed its High quality item.

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Thanks for checking, I was curious!

Our FC is running a ship with all bronco parts except for the rank 2 hull. We're currently rank 17 and just discovered sector 11 with a silver icon on the map. This might suggest that it's more related to proximity and not stat related. Something else I noticed is that when setting up routes with the airship sometimes if I pick some high level sectors or too many locations it changes the color of the trip information and stars in the upper right hand corner of the menu. Perhaps because our ship component stats are so low this is an indication that the trip might not go so well? Has anyone else noticed this having an effect on the rating of the trip being taken?

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Originally Posted by BonzaiFerroni

If you still have your flight log from when you discovered sector 8, could you look and see if it mentions discovering sector 10 instead?

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No mention was made of any sector being discovered. Might be different in the post log tho, I'll check on that later.

So, I don't have any data at all entered at the moment, but I've set up a spreadsheet for documenting voyages here. Please let me know if you think anything should be added to it.

Unfortunately, my FC doesn't seem to be terribly interested in sending the ship out. Well, the people who can, apart from me, don't <_< So, we don't get that many voyages in, but I'll try to send it out at least once every two days and record the results.

As a note, the info on Range in the OP is a bit misleading. What seems to determine the number of destinations you can get to is just your ship's rank. At rank 11, we gained the ability to go to three destinations instead of only two. However, each location is a set distance away from each other destination. If you don't have enough Range, you can't travel very far. So, if you have a very high Range stat, but are only rank 9, you will only be able to go to two destinations, but they can be really, really far apart. If you are high rank but have a low Range stat, you can go to numerous places, as long as they're all close together.

today's: #2 unlocked after S8, as well as S9 unlocking (R24) via S8.

http://i.imgur.com/JR9sA2T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CnEd5CJ.jpg

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

So, I don't have any data at all entered at the moment, but I've set up a spreadsheet for documenting voyages here. Please let me know if you think anything should be added to it.

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This spreadsheet looks amazing! I'll have to give it a trial run with some incoming data.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

As a note, the info on Range in the OP is a bit misleading. What seems to determine the number of destinations you can get to is just your ship's rank. At rank 11, we gained the ability to go to three destinations instead of only two. However, each location is a set distance away from each other destination. If you don't have enough Range, you can't travel very far. So, if you have a very high Range stat, but are only rank 9, you will only be able to go to two destinations, but they can be really, really far apart. If you are high rank but have a low Range stat, you can go to numerous places, as long as they're all close together.

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Point well taken, but I'm not sure I'm going to modify it. The OP doesn't say Range is the only limitation, it merely says this: "Allows you to visit more sectors per voyage." That statement is true. Rank will limit the number of sectors you visit very early in your progress. After that, the limiting factor will probably be range. I might re-evaluate whether it would be good to add something about rank's limitation, although I think the UI does a pretty good job of making that aspect clear. I wasn't really in it to make a comprehensive guide, which is why I also didn't put anything about how to craft an airship, etc. The aim of the guide is to cover the less obvious things.

Edit: One thing I was thinking about adding was a section that outlined the various milestones in progress. Ability to visit additional sectors because of rank would be a good thing to put in there!

Following up on my previous post, our next two voyages:

Visit sector 05 (only), Rank 19->20, unlock 07.
Visit sector 07 (only), Rank 20->21, unlock 08.

Enterprise Forecastle, Invincible Rigging, Bronco Hull and Aftcastle.
Previously made at least 2 voyages to 05 (not alone) without unlocking anything, plus one which unlocked 06. Those were all made with Enterprise Fore, but don't know which Aft (Bronco/Invincible).

The idea that the unlocks are tied to rank is, I'm pretty sure, incorrect. We unlocked sector 04 before we were high enough rank to go there, while sector 05 wasn't unlocked until after we exceeded the min rank by one or two. Meanwhile, a friend's FC unlocked sector 05 at a lower rank. I'm fairly certain you need to explore a certain sector or sectors (associated by proximity on the map) in order to unlock new sectors. If Exploration (or any other stat) is a factor, I'd guess that it contributes to an RNG roll, rather than straight-up determining the unlock.

Running a ship with Invincible Hull and Invincible Forecastle, Rest Bronco Parts for increased detection and efficiency.

Aborted 2. gathering attempts in sector 4-5 dropped from 45% for bronco only ship to 0% (so far).

Weather conditions improved a little bit overall but it seems there is still a huge random factor favoring bad conditions.

Number and Quality of items gained is hard to judge because of random conditions, but they increased a bit. Only crystals gives strange results which are more random then tied to stats or conditions.

Unlocked sector 5 at rank 9 or 10 (it didn't show up in logs but with rank up message), other sector discovery was mentioned in the log.

Didn't discovered sectors behind sector 5 so far, but i am only rank 12 at the moment. Maybe there are different requirements like "has visited a sector and met minimum rank requirements" for a unlock.

http://i.imgur.com/JXx2rpC.png

Sector 9 - Raw Celestine
Sector 8 - Raw Celestine, "High-quality" Iron Giant Core (needed for armorer crafted minion)

Hey guys and gals, I just launched my first airship flight last night, so I will try to keep a detailed log of events and keep up with everything that happens from scratch, it might help out a bit. I do have one question, do my crafting levels have anything to do with what I can build in the company crafting machine? If so is this info logged anywhere? If not this might be relevant information to have in the guide and something to keep an eye out for.

With our upgraded surveillance (80), first trip to sector 04 found sector 05.

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Originally Posted by Lethorian

Hey guys and gals, I just launched my first airship flight last night, so I will try to keep a detailed log of events and keep up with everything that happens from scratch, it might help out a bit. I do have one question, do my crafting levels have anything to do with what I can build in the company crafting machine? If so is this info logged anywhere? If not this might be relevant information to have in the guide and something to keep an eye out for.

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Projects can be started regardless of your levels. However each specific item turn in has its own level requirement. In order to turn these in you need to have that class to atleast that level. Keep an eye on these, as some are level 50-52 requirements (possible higher with tier IV+ parts)

Scarlet Sap is listed as "high quality" in our voyage log for sector 4 (though it's an old mat).

Hi all,

Great guide! Thank you for all the work you've put into it. I have started to log all of my airship voyages on my FC's reddit, found here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NemesisAsyl.../airship_loot/

I hope this information can help with any mysteries we might have. Please feel free to add it to whatever database there is out there. If you have any questions or suggestions on the format please PM me on Reddit: Stiggie00

-Stiggie Vurz <NemA>, Gilgamesh

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

So, I don't have any data at all entered at the moment, but I've set up a spreadsheet for documenting voyages here. Please let me know if you think anything should be added to it.

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Thanks for the spreadsheet, already started to use it. Something that might be helpful would be dropdowns of the ship components used. Also, is the rank in column D before or after the voyage?

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Originally Posted by Arcticharm

Thanks for the spreadsheet, already started to use it. Something that might be helpful would be dropdowns of the ship components used. Also, is the rank in column D before or after the voyage?

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I could do that, but I figured just having the stat numbers would be more flexible since I can only see the first two tiers of parts. Eventually, knowing me and my obsession with spreadsheet feature bloat, I'll have a separate tab where you can choose between ship parts and see how it changes your ship stats, with the point allocations and all so you can decide how to optimize for whatever you are trying to optimize for. If I put that together, you could just select your ship parts, then copy/paste the stats to the other sheet.

The rank before the voyage. I don't know if it matters at all, but it's a datapoint.


I'm realizing that the experience column is meaningless data, as the exp is a direct function of the sector visited and the performance bonus. If it wasn't clear. the two exp numbers at the top of the report, btw, are the total exp from the visited sectors before any performance bonuses, and the amount of experience gained solely from the bonuses.

By the way, is it possible for there NOT to be a second item? Or is there always a second item, and sometimes you succeed at getting it, and sometimes you don't? I've never seen it not say "Additional anomalies detected."

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

The rank before the voyage. I don't know if it matters at all, but it's a datapoint.

By the way, is it possible for there NOT to be a second item? Or is there always a second item, and sometimes you succeed at getting it, and sometimes you don't? I've never seen it not say "Additional anomalies detected."

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Ok, I put the level after it returned since that's when I'd enter the data (I guess somewhere there's a linear progression of xp to level?) and because I can't remember what rank it was before it came back :x

As for the xp, the bonus information might be nice to know if it's linked to the rating so maybe change it to just be the bonus?

Bloated excel sheets are the best sheets.

Edit: I misread your question, I'll have to check when our ship returns.

Second airship unlocked after our first trip to sector 8. (all previous sectors explored)

The spreadsheet now has a tool where you can mix and match parts to see how it changes your stats. .... only problem is that I only have data for the first two tiers (Bronco and Invincible). Does anyone have the stats for the Enterprise, Invincible II, Odyssey, and/or Tatanora parts?

The spreadsheet now also has a list of items reported in each sector, both listed by sector and by item on different tabs. There's not enough data yet for it to really be useful, but it's a start! Those lists automatically update when the master voyage log is updated.

For sector numbers, I'm prefacing them all with "SC" in case we find sectors in places other than the Sea of Clouds. Just calling "Sea of Clouds - Sector 01" "Sector 1" will be confusing if there's like, "Deep Sky - Sector 01" later on.