http://40.media.tumblr.com/53882531e...o1_r1_1280.jpg
This group of BLM bots has their own FC called fafg with agadg for a call sign. Also, all that purple in the chat log is tell spam. Hyperion is overrun.
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05-05-2015, 01:07 PMFyxationGetting it from both sides
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05-05-2015, 01:11 PMAlpselon
Wow I didn't want to believe it but I've been buying my shards from these guys haven't I? I guess I'll go ahead and gather my shards again like I used to. Anything that'll drive these guys away is a plus no matter how small.
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05-05-2015, 01:14 PMZabuza
Enabling timestamps highlights the ludicrousness of the situation even further. For example...
That's what Zalera looks like. Also your picture is going to be taken down if you don't block out the names. -
05-05-2015, 01:24 PMSummerSkye
This is hands down the WORST MMO on the market in regards to RMT. I have played them all. I have never seen the sheer amount of RMT spam in a subscription based game in all my years.
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05-05-2015, 01:48 PMPinkie_Pie
I see a whole bunch of those, They go to a part of the world and start aoeing everything in big aoe packs :-/
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05-05-2015, 01:54 PMRufalus
This is how Gridania looks like on Ragnarok now
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05-05-2015, 02:00 PMFyxation
Thanks. Funny how someone's got a job to be all over that, but they don't have someone on top of reports about this very problem.
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05-05-2015, 02:02 PMCanadaneYup, they're hovering over the company chest in the maelstrom too. Perhaps distributing goods among their various accounts? I don't really know. But they're getting cheekier by the day it seems. It's like they're goading SE to do something, and all SE seems to be doing is standing around with a slightly faster TP regen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyxation
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05-05-2015, 02:03 PMAlpselonWow that looks so creepy. That's weird I guess they create accounts based on how populated a server is. I've never seen so many gathered in one place like that here on Siren, there's usually maybe 4 or 5 at the aetheryte in Ul'dah but that's as many as I've seen in one place though there's more places where it's like that too like in Mor Dhona.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufalus
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05-05-2015, 02:13 PMFyxationThey're likely scripted to dump their spiritbond hauls into the chest so one bot can sell them. This set is different from the ones around the aetheryte who spiritbond astrolabes and giants gall staves (and are wearing sol accessories... which tells you how long they've avoided the banhammer). The group in my screenshot are all wearing junk accessories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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05-05-2015, 02:31 PMVerdanThere's actually kind of a reverse effect since the popular servers have character creation restrictions. Balmug has hardly any of these guys. They're HERE, but I get maybe one tell talking about gil for sale a night, and you'll see obvious bots out there shard mining and blowing up trees but that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpselon
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05-05-2015, 02:35 PMStrejdaTom
The only sickening and disgusting thing is that there are 10 new threads about this trashing whole general discussion section every day. I got it, SE got it, everyone got it. If you expect them to do more than they are doing now by repeating the same thing over and over, you are naive. Try something new.
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05-05-2015, 02:58 PMGovalonMaybe the problem are the players who sell T13 runs? Ban them and ban the buyersQuote:
Originally Posted by Lambadelta
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05-05-2015, 03:06 PMStrejdaTomLets ban players for playing legimitely, why not. Also lets ban people who do request melds and craft for other people for gil. But this won't happen because most of the crying casuals actually do that too and they obviously don't want to hurt themselves, right? Lets restrict only things we cannot do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Govalon
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05-05-2015, 03:10 PMCanadaneI, personally speaking, don't think SE got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrejdaTom
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05-05-2015, 03:14 PMAlpselonYikes you don't have to sound so antagonistic. I haven't been around the forums for too long so I can't imagine how many of these threads there have been but if there's so many then at the very least SE can see just how many people are unhappy with this issue. I'm not suggesting immediate action or anything I'm just saying that I can understand why so many people are complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrejdaTom
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05-05-2015, 03:15 PMAdireThe 3 person task force, probably pulling their hair out dealing with RMT as we speak, most likely agrees with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
You'll get used to the uncalled for hostility if you hang around the forums for a bit :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpselon
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05-05-2015, 03:18 PMStrejdaTomAntagonistic? Well I don't have a better answer for someone who asks SE to ban people who sell or buy content clears even while not every clear buying is funded by RMT sellers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpselon
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05-05-2015, 03:22 PMAlpselonHmm I was mostly talking about your previous post here maybe I should've quoted that one. Anyway I'm not a big fan of clear selling/buying. Banning them is a bit harsh sure but I hope there's at least some way to discourage people from doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrejdaTom
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05-05-2015, 04:58 PMGovalonThis is a lie. Nobody who worked for that kind money would spend them on a clear. Everytime you sell a clear, you directly fund RMT. Stop selling clears or stop whining about RMT you are causing.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrejdaTom
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05-05-2015, 05:08 PMLemuria
I'd argue that clear selling probably encourages some players to buy gil so they can afford it. Personally I think it's a poor practice to play the game for someone else, but that's just my opinion.
Anyway, this issue with tons of RMT characters is really getting crazy. In Gridania I found 8 of them all clustered around the summoning bell. Is it really so hard to get someone to log in, patrol the game for a bit and start removing and investigating this sort of thing? The sad part is that at least three of them have been around for a while now.
See, banning and temp banning only goes part way to solving the problem, it needs to be tackled at its source. That's the people who are buying. Cut their source of income and it becomes unprofitable to continue. Who knows, maybe removing the billions of RMT gil from the economy might actually put some affordable prices in the marketplace as well. -
05-05-2015, 05:08 PMGenJoeTrust me.. just because you're a poor pleb.. Doesn't mean there aren't people who can make that kind of gil in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Govalon
That's like saying, nobody who worked for their money would spend 2 million dollars on a stupid car.. Well?
Some crafters in this game can make 3, 5, 10 million gil a day. paying a few million gil just to get content over with starts to sound like a not too terrible idea when you have that kind of gil coming in.
Do I personally do it?? No, I see no reason to spend money for a clear.. But had I cared about progressing to FCOB, I might just consider paying for a T9 clear considering how few T9 groups are around these days.. if I wanted it bad enough.. I don't, some people do..
key word: SOMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
Most proponents of clear selling aren't doing it on the basis of "I need to make more gil, I don't care where it comes from".
Not at all, many people who say it's fine don't even partake in it. When you start structuring rules on a few bad examples, then you really start to cross some fine lines there.
Hell if that were the case, 100% of the human progress would have to be reverted because there is always somebody that doesn't react well to it whether we're talking about medicines or technology
EDIT: I didn't mean to imply that you were.. I just wanted to make that a point and you happened to bring up a good point. -
05-05-2015, 05:22 PMLemuria
I didn't argue that it should be a bannable offense, but I do feel it needs to be strongly discouraged by other means. It's an obvious red flag area because people genuinely struggle on the content and see it as an easy way forwards. There's very little else to spend gil on besides making more gil, especially since most of these paid carry groups offer you full drops during it. So essentially you're not just buying a clear, you're buying endgame equipment.
Correlation does not equal causation, this much is true, but where there's smoke there's usually fire. It's the first place I would start investigating if I were an SE rep. -
05-05-2015, 05:39 PMStrejdaTomIf you are speaking to me directly now, I have never sold a clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Govalon
I know people who are sitting at over 300M, there are screens of people who have even 1,9bil of gil only trough crafting and market board speculating. Do you really think that 10M for single clear means anything to them?
Thinking that if you are unable to make such amount of gil everyone who has it is a gilbuyer is extremely ignorant.
Every time when new patch comes and brings something craftable there are huge opportunities for all high-end crafters to make loads of gil in short time. These opportunities are short term but they are huge.
EDIT: But yeah, for example primal weapons for over 2M etc.. only encourage people to buy gil, we should ban these things too. -
05-05-2015, 06:07 PMJim_Berrylol... You're crazy! I wouldn't care who put it on the MB. If I need it, I'll buy it if I can. There's no discrimination when I need to progress in-game.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlemagne
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05-05-2015, 06:13 PMExiledOneThis is exactly what I did as well and I now get their annoying friend requests but at least they're less frequent than their /tells, of course, I'm also blacklisting them right after declining their request which may be helping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexxuk
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05-05-2015, 06:20 PMAhnthistikhttps://secure.static.tumblr.com/d5f...ame_640_v2.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba
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05-05-2015, 06:24 PMJim_BerryFunny! I keep declining the friend request from the same seller. Then I told myself I'll leave the request there. I ended up with a bunch of requests from (excuse the spelling):Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba
Ggatm'com Sellgilcs
Ggatm'com Sellgildsg
Ggatm'com Sellgilcw
Ggatm'com Sellgildff
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05-05-2015, 08:09 PMdayspring83
I get that this is an issue but I cant take you seriously with the title of this post. Get a grip.
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05-05-2015, 08:40 PMTyrn
http://i.imgur.com/xywRFPw.jpg
You can probably find more friends at Central Thanalan (22,12) but I don't think they're miners like the rest of the NPCs there, maybe they're trying to make money for Ul'dah in other ways but it's still rude of them to take the miners' bed. -
05-06-2015, 12:58 PMSuperZay
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05-06-2015, 02:31 PMMaikalIf you think this is in any way tragic, sickening or disgusting, then you have absolutely no concept of what tragic, sickening and disgusting actually are. How I genuinely envy you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba
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05-07-2015, 01:33 AMSolsanna
Those are bots? I thought it was hilarious when I saw armies of black mages. Oh well. I'm gonna continue ignoring RMT and bots and enjoy mah game. Have fun forumers.
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05-07-2015, 02:47 AMAlipoprocksYes, that is sickening and disgusting. Put that chocobo on a diet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba