Dragon Quest X

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Like I said, more dynamic, more emoting, better staging, less potato.

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And a lot of completely meaningless catchwords.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

And a lot of completely meaningless catchwords.

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dy·nam·ic /dīˈnamik/
Adjective: (of a process or system) Characterized by constant change, activity, or progress.
-Toriama's characters in their early days often stood stiff. Straight lines of action where prominent in his works but as he continued to grow as an artist, his characters loosened up and his characters took on more realistic and stronger poses with more curved lines of action. Things like hair and clothing have also become more loose and susceptible to movement in the wind or effected by gravity.

emoting present participle of e·mote
Verb: (esp. of an actor) Portray emotion in a theatrical manner.
-In the early days of Dragonball and Dr. Slump, characters used emotions that were more iconic of base feelings, rather than a clear expression of how they felt. His current art shows his characters are capable of portraying more complex emotions appropriately by subtle line work around the face where wrinkles should appear and stronger proportions in how the eyes and mouth relate.

stag·ing Noun/ˈstājiNG/
An instance or method of presenting a play or other dramatic performance. (in this case, his illustrations and artwork)
-He does a better job of conveying action, setting up scenes, and showing the importance of a character or item then he did in the past.

Potato, is just referring to the fact that he used to draw smaller characters like lumpy potato toddlers.

Now I'm done talking about this so feel free to make any closing point you want to.

the second i saw it was on the wii i stopped caring.....why the wii? the systems about to be dead in a year (when your game comes out) so are they just taking the easy way out by making it SD and having "bleh" graphics because its on the wii? me thinks so.

EDIT: After watching the videos, its not really an MMO, more like a hubbed game. If your not paying online fees over here il screw with it, but otherwise idc. From what someones link said it can be played 100% by yourself so its really just an online RPG.

...i just want monster hunter....

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

the second i saw it was on the wii i stopped caring.....why the wii? the systems about to be dead in a year (when your game comes out) so are they just taking the easy way out by making it SD and having "bleh" graphics because its on the wii? me thinks so.

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I think it's because they where working on it for the Wii long before the Wii U was known to anyone outside of Nintendo.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

LOL video was taken down because SE don't want us watching it

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Well then... guess that teaches me to post an SE video in an SE forum. Why stream something if we cannot watch it. I'll just have to find more.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Hey mommy, i spot a nintendo fanboy bent out of shape because some people don't like a game's art style. The travesty!

Sorry to burst a big bubble here but you don't need more than a screenshot (and plenty video footage) to judge a game's character design, especially considering how well known (and incredibly fossilized) the style of the character designer in question is. The game is horribly cartoonish on the wii, and you can bet your monthly wages for a year that it won't change style on the Wii U. It'll have higher resolution textures, maybe the cel shading will be a tad more refined, but there's only so far you can bring cel shading, especially when you have to mantain parity of content.

If i want cel shading, I'll take a game with cel shading supported by good character design (like the one by Kosuke Fujishima and Mutsumi Inomata in Tales of Xillia, both completely obliterate toriyama in artistry, style and appeal), not this piece of crap that seem to be designed to appease five year olds.

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Never said the style would change, I said it would look a little better on Wii U, even if this was on PC or another system, this style would have still been used as well, it is the style of DQ after all. Heh calling me a fanboy too, how funny.... I own all the current gen platforms, and I have not even touched my Wii in months, just because I have an opinoin about Nintendo, and my favorite system is the NES, does not make me a fanboy, but what ever, I am not going to waist any more time on you.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Hey mommy, i spot a nintendo fanboy bent out of shape because some people don't like a game's art style. The travesty!

Sorry to burst a big bubble here but you don't need more than a screenshot (and plenty video footage) to judge a game's character design, especially considering how well known (and incredibly fossilized) the style of the character designer in question is. The game is horribly cartoonish on the wii, and you can bet your monthly wages for a year that it won't change style on the Wii U. It'll have higher resolution textures, maybe the cel shading will be a tad more refined, but there's only so far you can bring cel shading, especially when you have to mantain parity of content.

If i want cel shading, I'll take a game with cel shading supported by good character design (like the one by Kosuke Fujishima and Mutsumi Inomata in Tales of Xillia, both completely obliterate toriyama in artistry, style and appeal), not this piece of crap that seem to be designed to appease five year olds.

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Wow i smell a forum monkey trolling people. You got friends? Or you run those off w/ your piss poor attitude. SE needs to start banning you idiots that come on here and attack other posters repeatably. You know a simple i don't like it would have been a fine statement. BTW DQ is considered the most popular RPG series period. Mostly adults play DQ;most of them probably being 25-35yrs of age some even older. DQ games are not generally even made for children alot of them are harder than your of the mil FF or other RPG. You got a poor idea of what good illustration is Toriyama has grown over the years and refined his style. When your drawing its best to be unique and think outside the box toriyama is a shinning example of this and his fanbase and popularity speaks for it. And guess what if you dont like it dont post on this thread and don't comment DERP DERP!

I read SE's stock plummeted after that announcement.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

What they NEED to do is make a FF Crystal Chronicles Online. Where are my LILTIES!?

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Can we wait on another FF online for atleast another decade or so, or forever, that works too. Let us hope they fix this one is what I'm getting at.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

If i want cel shading, I'll take a game with cel shading supported by good character design (like the one by Kosuke Fujishima and Mutsumi Inomata in Tales of Xillia, both completely obliterate toriyama in artistry, style and appeal), not this piece of crap that seem to be designed to appease five year olds.

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Jesus christ, opinionated much? I find Toriyama's style ugly too, but it's completely subjective.

I also think it's funny you brought up Tales art as being any better. The style looks a little more realistic, but I fail to see how those designs look any less generic and anime-esque than DQ's...

DQ9 had some pretty dark moments if it's really intended for 5 year olds.

I hope the Treasure Map system makes a return in 10 but expanded more than before. That stuff was addicting.

it doesnt really matter, its not an MMO. If it anything like how they treated monster hunter for wii over hear, we likely wont have to pay for anything online....and tbh the game would BOMB over here if they made US +EU Wii owners pay a monthly fee for whats not even an MMO.

Most people who own the wii barely buy games as it is, but asking them to pay a monthly fee would be begging for your game to fail int he west.

As for story, well honstly DQ lately has been pretty lighthearted on story, and this game looking like those ones and being on wii = expect the same thing.

MMO + DQ + Wii = huh?

/facepalm

Sqaure seriously stop this BS. I'm tired of MMOs that are slightly related to the series being counted as normal games in the series. Call it Dragon Quest Online like you should. And while you're at it, renumber the FF games.

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

MMO + DQ + Wii = huh?

/facepalm

Sqaure seriously stop this BS. I'm tired of MMOs that are slightly related to the series being counted as normal games in the series. Call it Dragon Quest Online like you should. And while you're at it, renumber the FF games.

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Whats wrong with a online game carrying a numeral? Is it somehow less qualified? FFXI had just as epic as a story as any other FF game, it just did it in a different fashion.

Would I like FFXI and XIV to be called FF Online 1 and 2? Yes, but I am not going to be like you and whine, piss, and moan about it.

DQ9 was made with multiplayer in mind and it was a ton of fun and handled it really well, so much that so many players were clamoring about it being able to go online.

As far as a numbered game series losing its way or credibility because of it being online or an MMO, I completely dissagree. I have played several MMO, and most of the Final Fantasy series. I can say without a doubt that Final Fantasy XI is at the top of story telling in both categories. Maybe not number 1 on the FF list, but certainly #1 in the MMO genre and I refuse to budge on this. Any person who says Final Fantasy XI or XIV for that matter dosent feel like a Final Fantasy is a moron in my book.

I have no doubts the same attention to details (in story telling and lore) will be made in DQX to make it feel like a Dragon Quest title.

As long as it's hub-based, monster hunter style with instanced battles (I think that's what the video showed, where other players we're shadowed outside the battle) AND as long as it's free to play, then I am 100% ok with this and I will happily play this on my Wii.

Gameplay looks XI-awful-and-dated. On top of that it's on the kiddie console.

Gogogo Wii-U limitations!

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Originally Posted by Ilean

Gameplay looks XI-awful-and-dated. On top of that it's on the kiddie console.

Gogogo Wii-U limitations!

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FF11 looks anything but awful even by todays standards its still high quality. Even recently introduced games such as Rift dont even compare as to how soundly FF11 was made and WoW that was introduced afterwards looks like crap..... even Aion etc introduced afterwards look like crap. I know cus i try most MMOs.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

FF11 looks anything but awful even by todays standards its still high quality. Even recently introduced games such as Rift dont even compare as to how soundly FF11 was made and WoW that was introduced afterwards looks like crap..... even Aion etc introduced afterwards look like crap. I know cus i try most MMOs.

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Gameplay looks XI-awful-and-dated. On top of that it's on the kiddie console.

Edit: On the visual side, whatever, I've seen enough fanboys say that XIV looks better than this so I'm not going to bother arguing about it.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

Gameplay looks XI-awful-and-dated. On top of that it's on the kiddie console.

Edit: On the visual side, whatever, I've seen enough fanboys say that XIV looks better than this so I'm not going to bother arguing about it.

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XIV does look better than that, its just not as colorful yet, and thats the Dev teams fault.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

XIV does look better than that, its just not as colorful yet, and thats the Dev teams fault.

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:D

/moarchars

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Originally Posted by Ilean

:D

/moarchars

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You realize that as flashy as that game does look its now pretty well guaranteed it wont see US shores read up on recent enmasse/bluehole troubles. And it is a hack n slash game those never last. And have fun playin it if comes here at all w/ all the censorships theyll have to rename it Tera:Sesame Street

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

You realize that as flashy as that game does look its now pretty well guaranteed it wont see US shores read up on recent enmasse/bluehole troubles. And it is a hack n slash game those never last. And have fun playin it if comes here at all w/ all the censorships theyll have to rename it Tera:Sesame Street

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/shruggggg

I don't see how all that relates to our previous discussion about graphics capabilities.

Also, most of the AAA games out there have action oriented gameplay, I am sorry that you don't see the potential of joining a good old MMO abilities system with real time action based combat. I guess it's the fanboy blindness.

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Originally Posted by Ilean

/shruggggg

I don't see how all that relates to our previous discussion about graphics capabilities.

Also, most of the AAA games out there have action oriented gameplay, I am sorry that you don't see the potential of joining a good old MMO abilities system with real time action based combat. I guess it's the fanboy blindness.

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This has nothing to do with fanboy or not fanboy it has everything to do with my human eyes that see things for what they are, and "Visually" Tera does not hold a candle to XIV. You are however entitled to your opinions, and you should also respect the opinions of others.

ALSO this thread is about Dragon Quest X, not a pissing contest.

For the person that asked if it was FTP.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/06/dqx_fees/

Subscription fee confirmed as well as the game requiring you to be on-line at all times past the first few hours.

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