I think locking access to new Jobs is a HUGE mistake..

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

He was talking about the requirements, IIRC. Not the actual job levels.

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It was job levels.

News jobs should be available at 30. I don't care if it makes absolutely no sense in the story, A: It can be made to make sense in any number of fairly logical ways and B: gameplay over story every time. I love a good story, but if has to be altered to make the game better then it should be altered, end of IMHO.

Again, the jobs added include a Guy With A Gun and a Dark Magic Swordman. These are huge draws and it'd be insane to lock them behind total completion of the pre-expansion story.

Their starter levels should be level 30 minimum.

Done & seen well enough of those early level areas on 8 other Jobs, not including Gatherer's & Chocobo grinding or Spiritbonding.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

News jobs should be available at 30. I don't care if it makes absolutely no sense in the story, A: It can be made to make sense in any number of fairly logical ways and B: gameplay over story every time. I love a good story, but if has to be altered to make the game better then it should be altered, end of IMHO.

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Bold is just indicating -YOU-. Personally, I do not see how someone likes a good story, but doesn't care if a wrench is obviously thrown in and out of place. There's a number of things the Devs can do to please fans. Like the inclusion of many old FF Bosses. But guess what? They don't. Why? Lore. They love it. Gameplay over Story? Why not both? Maybe you're unaware, but a lot of gamers today complain about FF having weak stories. Let's try not to add to that perspective and allow the developers to actually creating a memorizing experience. I would personally like to see something worth remembering.

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

Their starter levels should be level 30 minimum.

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Please no, that would be terrible! Should be level 1.

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

Please no, that would be terrible! Should be level 1.

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It should be 15, so we can jump into dungeons and learn what to do.
The max I'm willing to go is 30. We can jump into Haukke and it shouldn't be THAT bad to adjust...I mean
you can still go to previous dungeons and learn what to do. o-o But I don't want that many derps at 50...
50 would be a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

It should be 15, so we can jump into dungeons and learn what to do.
The max I'm willing to go is 30. We can jump into Haukke and it shouldn't be THAT bad to adjust...I mean
you can still go to previous dungeons and learn what to do. o-o But I don't want that many derps at 50...
50 would be a bad idea.

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To be honest I hope SE opens up a poll for this or something. But me personally I do not want anything but level 1. Leveling is something I enjoy and haven't been able to do it in a while. At least not on a class I enjoy playing.

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

Please no, that would be terrible! Should be level 1.

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Can easily do like how WoW released Dreadknight & get you started slowly, introducing a few abilities at a time for the first 5 levels...

Don't make me rehash content for the 11th, 12th, & 13th times+++.

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Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff

Can easily do like how WoW released Dreadknight & get you started slowly, introducing a few abilities at a time for the first 5 levels...

Don't make me rehash content for the 11th, 12th, & 13th times+++.

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This game is built on rehashing content. Might wanna get used to it...

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Originally Posted by Vespar

This game is built on rehashing content. Might wanna get used to it...

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I am. I've been playing for ages & have everything capped to 50 on more than one character.

But I've rehashed that same content tenfold, my point is that that is enough.

Making us do it an 11th, 12th, & 13th time or so is ludicrous.

Also, on that token, it'd take insanely longer to get those Jobs introduced into Heavensward 50~ content if they start at level 1.

30 is appropriate, do it like WoW where you get a small handful of abilities like every couple of levels until you have a good set at 40 for a slow-paced intro to the Job's capabilities/function.