Some folks have valid reasons to be annoyed by this. Every time there is a free log in weekend, the extra players taking up server space cause some paying subscribers to experience heavy lag spikes, disconnects, log in wait queues and other nasty side effects that they normally don't get, sometimes making the game almost unplayable for them. I actually happen to be one of these people. Usually during free log in weekends, for me the lag is so unbearable I get disconnected every 5-10 minutes. (Yay 90k's! ._.) If this didn't happen, I wouldn't have a problem with free log in weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edellis
So as far as being "Antisocial", I'm more "antisocial" during Free Log In Weekends purely because I can't stay connected long enough to have a conversation :P
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02-27-2015, 06:44 AMVespar
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02-27-2015, 10:19 AMRyu_Hayabusaa
are people REALLY crying about this shit? "oh man now GS is full of ppl" really? lol what a bunch of bad kids crying over SE trying to bring more players to our worlds. funny thing is, i bet some of you dps main and complain at duty times. but yet you dont want SE trying to bring more ppl back lol
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02-27-2015, 10:23 AMGiantbaneThey could have maybe waited another week. Golden Saucer and the trials queues are already really crowded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu_Hayabusaa
Stuck waiting in the queue 5-10 minutes for "reserving an instance" after the group is full. This is not going to help things. -
02-27-2015, 10:27 AMRyu_Hayabusaa
so let me get this straight, you are mad at SE for trying to get more subs because golden saucer just came out? lol. "lets get mad at people trying to make more money". dumbest idea ever.
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02-27-2015, 10:28 AMCYoung187
I think SE promoting their game to bring longevity to this game serves me pretty well as a paying customer. Get over this already. I prefer expanding interests in the game.
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02-27-2015, 10:34 AMGiantbaneNo, but they're trying to promote it at a time when things are already too crowded. They could wait a week and let the initial rush die down a bit and it wouldn't be adding a burden on an already overburdened system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu_Hayabusaa
Honestly I don't think it shows off their game in a very good light if all these potential new subs log in to try things out and get stuck with "sorry, golden saucer is full" or "reserving an instance" -
02-27-2015, 10:43 AMNeoBlueFalcon
Not gonna lie, but I'm really starting to despise Gold Saucer. Couldn't SE have at least made GS separate from the rest of the DF intances? Waiting 10+ minutes to get into a trial instance is absurd, and I can't even begin to imagine what it's going to be like when the free login week starts up. Now I see why SE decided to give us better light windows to compensate (like the SIX HOUR Garuda HM bright window the ohter day): they know the congestion is a real problem, and they're not gonna add more instance space anytime soon.
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02-27-2015, 10:52 AMOphie-MioThis. While I am for expanding the population of the game, the fact remains that SE gives away a free month already and wouldn't have to offer such weekends if they managed to keep their content relevant to the point where the players actually feel like it's worth it to subscribe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vespar
Free log in weekends are awful to the long term subscribers while they are happening. Heavy lag spikes makes most content unplayable, I get disconnected very often, and quite frankly, I see more than enough baby players when it's not a free login time to think that only two free login campaigns a year is enough.
That being said, the Gold Saucer is not enough content to suddenly make a veteran player be all like, "OMG! I need to resubscribe!" It's just not enough content, which is the main issue of why people leave the game. There's not enough to do besides gear based vertical progression that is grinding. Once the grind gets pointless, people leave.
And yeah, I'm not anti-social... I just prefer to play the game freely without any disconnects or lag spikes that's caused by an influx of people who KNOW they aren't going to continue to play. -
02-27-2015, 11:21 AMWelsper59To be fair, it really is a bad time for very high population servers. Not only do they have a queue to log in, but they have a queue to get to the Gold Saucer, which is otherwise instant for most other servers. It'd be like a booked major hotel only having one operating elevator, but instead of adding more or allowing access to the staircase to help alleviate some problems first, they decide to throw out major promotional discounts or free stays to draw in more people and add to the existing problem lol. Bit extreme, but covers the general idea lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu_Hayabusaa
Otherwise, for the other servers, it's not a big deal at all. Leviathan isn't as bad as ones like Balmung, so I'm glad we generally don't deal with log in and access to Gold Saucer queues (yet).
Something you need to keep in mind about this is that when it comes to MMORPGs, the current method is that you don't necessarily rely exclusively on veteran players. As in, that's not your progressive financial source. It's definitely a part of it, but you'll know early on if the game will keep such veteran fans or not, hence the progressive part. Most players today are fickle with their dedication to just one game. Some may stay for days, others weeks, months or maybe even a year (or more). Those that leave may come back. They, once again, may not stay for longer than the mentioned days/weeks/months/years. They are the progressive income sources, since time dictates new and old players coming and going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio
Mind you, this is not saying they look at forsaking the veteran players, as we all know that's NOT the case. But rather it's about the 2-way door that gaming is these days. We're not going to spend months playing every game we buy. We're not limited to just one or two good games like we were in the past. Thus, marketing and how business is conducted must change to cater to that lifestyle. -
02-27-2015, 12:02 PMRyu_Hayabusaa
golden saucer is nothing more than casual content. dont get me wrong, its cool and all. but if you really are so upseat over free login time because it may disrupt your time in the golden saucer then you should prolly should unsubscribe til the expansion if you have nothing else to be doing except that.
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02-27-2015, 12:06 PMVespar
To be honest, I am all for promotions to bring in new blood. Gold Saucer or no... But if the servers are starting to suffer from it, then I would suggest SE use some of their resources and invest in more servers. Obviously if this is a major milestone and a sign of things to come, new servers and a free transfer would only improve the congestion and help ease character creation if we could move some folks off the already crowded servers such as Balmung.
I really am all for Free Log In Weekends, so long as it doesn't compromise the well being of current paying customers. After all, we're the ones who have have been supplying the funds to do these promotions. -
02-27-2015, 12:15 PMGiantbaneYou should unsubscribe to make more room for SE's attempt at getting more people to subscribe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu_Hayabusaa
Your logic is astounding ...
Is it really that hard to understand that 4 days after a content patch may not be the absolute best time to do one of these Free Login events? -
02-27-2015, 12:38 PMWelsper59It's actually a great time for it, if everything were good that is. Most servers are going to be fine, some may get a queue time but not very long (maybe a few minutes at most). The handful of overly populated servers though, yeah, this is a HORRIBLE time to have it. Limitations of the servers will stand out more than normal. As far as promotions go though, this still is probably the best time for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantbane
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02-27-2015, 12:59 PMGiantbaneA week or two after the patch everything will still be active, but the mad dash of the existing players into new content will have dispersed a bit. Strikes me as a much better time to open the doors for everyone to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsper59
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02-28-2015, 03:20 AMColdheartReading this, I imagined the following dialogue:Quote:
Originally Posted by InVizO
Yoshi-P: How about a new "free login campaign"?
SE CEO: Why?
Yoshi-P: We reached 4 million accounts and the Golden Sauce will encourage some inactives players to renew their subscriptions.
SE CEO: More subscribers? You mean more active players and more revenue?
Yoshi-P: Yes, that's it.
SE CEO: This is a dumb idea! -
02-28-2015, 03:21 AMAmenianHa! /threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Massterchef
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02-28-2015, 03:41 AMOphie-MioJust as an fyi, here's another conversation SE frequently has which would also generate a crap ton of revenue the likes of which any current game can't compare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldheart
Fans: How about a remake of Final Fantasy 7?
SE CEO: Why?
Fans: Because we want it desperately and are willing to spend anything for it.
SE CEO: Ehhh... But what about a sequel to another game? Lightning's cool, ya?
Fans: No, we want remake. Literally just upgrade the graphics. We will seriously pay anything for it.
SE CEO: This is a dumb idea!
In conclusion: SE does not always jump on revenue making ideas. -
02-28-2015, 05:09 AMColdheart
Ophie-Mio, do you realize that I was joking about "dumb ideas", right? At least, I hope so. ;)
I may be wrong, but I think you took too seriously. -
02-28-2015, 05:44 AMNashred
I dont think free log in is a bad idea but I think it is right now. It wont bring in new players if they come into a game with wait times, congestion and lag it will just turn them off more. Yes they should have waited a little while after a patch for this. Poor timing...
It is bad for both existing and returning players at this time. -
02-28-2015, 09:33 AMTwivana
Yall need to think this way..
Free Login weekend and this weekend+a week and another weekend means more users, more users mean more subscriptions, more subscriptions means SE gets More money, more money and players = NEWER AND BETTER CONTENT! Oh and probably better server stability cuz they would have the irl gil to most likely fix that issue. Yeah I'm on Malboro and it isn't that populated as Gilgamesh and all that but still. Some servers are locked out from new character creation. Lately, I have seen a ton of new players and I have crappy interwebs (just saiyan) on wifi mind you and I do not have any lag nor and am I locked out of Gold Saucer.
Not trying to troll... but some of yall need to think before you type :] -
02-28-2015, 10:03 AMDeviant1Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedity
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02-28-2015, 10:18 AMAvengerHahahaha. It would be interesting though to know how many of them are accounts that were banned from the game for spamming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deviant1
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02-28-2015, 04:05 PMGysonSo, long-time Balmung residents were supposed to know what their server population would be like in the future? And new players are all expected to research the current population of every server when first joining the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
Responsibility of the players to choose an average full server instead of an extreme full server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyson
All what the devs can do and currently do is to lock Balmung for new characters
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03-01-2015, 01:42 AMIcehunter
Thanks?
• Legacy accounts x2
• Forum member #134
• $6.99/month (on 180 day)
• Name in credits of game
• Veterans rewards
List goes on...
You're welcome Yoshi :) -
03-04-2015, 01:46 AMRyu_Hayabusaayou are tarded. please dont play MMO's anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Giantbane