Implementation of a "Tail Toggle"

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

If we were to introduce a toggle option, tails would completely disappear from gear where the base of the tail is usually exposed (such as swimwear or subligar). Considering that tails are part of a Miqo'te's body, it's not really something we can do as having a tail is one of the unique characteristics of Miqo'te.

However, in regards to equipment where it seems more natural to have the tail hidden, such as the chocobo suit, we will consider designs where the tail is tucked away when adding gear moving forward.

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Just don't do another Evenstar Coat, people are still having nightmares from that one. >_>

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Originally Posted by Sove92

Just don't do another Evenstar Coat, people are still having nightmares from that one. >_>

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The bonertail still haunts me. What has been seen, can not be unseen anymore.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

The bonertail still haunts me. What has been seen, can not be unseen anymore.

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I honestly wonder who thought the bonertail looked good.

I have to agree with not having the ability to turn off the tail since it is a part of the character.

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Originally Posted by Felis

SE should add tail slits again to the gears, like they did during 1.x

http://www.tale-ffxiv.com/boards/upl...121_259564.jpg
(the right one)

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This... THIS !!!!! PLEASE ! I can't stand the tail clipping T_T (I know it won't happen but heh... sigh)

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Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

There are outfits that should hide the tail based on what's actually being worn. There are some outfits that do this correctly like the Ghost outfit which hides the tail, but others that don't and look awkward.

http://i4.minus.com/irqPiG4TUkKyF.jpg

A tail toggle could be implemented, which has pros and cons depending on the viewpoint. I'll start with the cons:

CONS
1. People could keep the tail disabled 24/7 hurting race diversity.
2. It may seem awkward with Tailed Races in revealing outfits without their tail showing.

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In my opinion it's just a costume. So the character can't help that she needs a hole for her tail. This is just my opinion.

If you ever have had a cat you know you pretty much couldn't wind the tail up in a ball and stick it in the rump of like that chococbo costume the tail has too many bones. It would be possible to put the tail between the legs and wrap it around to the front but that doesn't seem realistic because they you would see this budge in the front.

Its funny because most of the gear just lets tails clip though the armor. Armor that accommodates tails is few and far between, so we can only guess that devs simply don't want to make armor with tails in mind. toggling them off is a good solution

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Originally Posted by Felis

There is no space in this skin-tight costume to hide the tail


SE should add tail slits again to the gears, like they did during 1.x

http://www.tale-ffxiv.com/boards/upl...121_259564.jpg
(the right one)

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tbh this is the only suggestion I can really get behind. Magically making the tail disappear is unrealistic as heck, unless docked tails suddenly become the fashion in Eorzea. Wrapping them around waists/legs/god-knows-where is anatomically invalid.

That said, Squeenix isn't gonna modify the vast majority of the gear in the game just for that. They might take more consideration of the tails in future gear pieces (thanks Au Ra) but odds are that the gear that already exists is staying as it is.
It's an MMO. All armour is not gonna look amazing on all races. There will be some clipping. It's a sad reality.

(But I still would really like to see tail slits oh man)

Miqo'te Tails don't stick straight out, they point downward. If a costume has even the tiniest bit of extra space in the butt area, you can maneuver the tail after a certain point down one leg of the costume.

If your argument against hiding tails with certain gear, such as the Chocobo Suit, is that Miqo'te tails are shaped incorrectly to be hidden that way, you're just wrong. If you were right, there would be zero equipment in the game that hides the tail, but there are items that do hide it. I know, for one, that the Wolfseye Robe hides your tail and only the fake wolf tail is shown. Also, the Evenstar Coat? That can't be my tail, it's far too thin and permanently erect. That has to be a part of the coat itself (and someone's idea of a speciesist joke since they only put it on coats they give to Miqo'tes), and my real tail has to be hidden somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Miqo'te Tails don't stick straight out, they point downward. If a costume has even the tiniest bit of extra space in the butt area, you can maneuver the tail after a certain point down one leg of the costume.

If your argument against hiding tails with certain gear, such as the Chocobo Suit, is that Miqo'te tails are shaped incorrectly to be hidden that way

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That's not my argument. Physically it would be possible, however Miqo'te are cat-like people. That tail is an extension of their spine and is essential for their balance. They'd be extremely uncomfortable (and noticeably more clumsy) if they stuffed their tail down a leg or something.
Try sticking your spine down the leg of your jeans later on and tell me how you like it :')

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Originally Posted by Quoyan

That's not my argument. Physically it would be possible, however Miqo'te are cat-like people. That tail is an extension of their spine and is essential for their balance. They'd be extremely uncomfortable (and noticeably more clumsy) if they stuffed their tail down a leg or something.
Try sticking your spine down the leg of your jeans later on and tell me how you like it :')

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... are you suggesting that chocobo costumes are supposed to be comfortable? Err, have you ever worn one of those fully body mascot suits? I don't think comfort is a pre-requisite here XD

You know what really looks weird with a tail?

Evenstar.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

... are you suggesting that chocobo costumes are supposed to be comfortable?

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I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by comfort. A full-body mascot suit may be comfortable, but it doesn't completely gimp your ability to say, walk in a straight line without falling over. Animals have tails because those tails are essential for their balance, I can only assume that the Miqo'te are no exception to this. When I say they'd be extremely uncomfortable if they stuffed their tail away somewhere and couldn't use it properly, I don't mean they'd feel a bit constricted, I mean they'd probably feel like they'd lost a limb. If you've ever broken a limb and had it in a plaster cast, you can imagine the kind of discomfort I mean.

As I said earlier, it would really be nice if squeenix would come up with a way to fix the ridiculous clipping issues in some items without gimping the Miqo'te, but it probably won't happen. It'd be too big of an overhaul.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You know what really looks weird with a tail?
Evenstar.

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You may not be happy to see it, but boy it's sure happy to see you.

I SECCOND THIS! ... would be good for a laugh at first but get pretty boring after a while.

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Originally Posted by Everdark

Its funny because most of the gear just lets tails clip though the armor. Armor that accommodates tails is few and far between, so we can only guess that devs simply don't want to make armor with tails in mind. toggling them off is a good solution

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Sadly, that seems rather accurate.

My issue with this is that it's rather ... not even sure what the right word here would be, insulting? I mean, for cryin' out loud, they provided the entire race as a playable option themselves. Miqo'te was not placed in the game by a 3rd party. To go on ignoring their very own design and giving us half-assed/gimped solutions for, what, the whole lifetime of the game is what it's gonna be now? I find that incredibly lazy (no, I don't care how small the team is) and infuriating. And there is a second race coming in with non-human body elements. Is that also going to be ignored in favour of "majority"/speed?...

But without a tail, miqotes would look 75% human :(

Better off adjusting and making armor to accommodate tails. Seeing as tail clipping is one of the primary reasons I switched back to Hyur, and the fact that SE adjusting most armor to suit tails is unlikely, I support this though. I feel for you kitty cats.

Miqo'tes need this.. A hole to place their tail through like 1.0

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...583c7f9139.jpg

Much like with the butt reduction "incident", it's easier to make a one-size-fits-all, or, rather, a one-design-fits all. Making alternative designs to properly accommodate the Miqo'te tail means more assets. Which means more work, more time spent, and perhaps more resources being used. Though, the tail for Miqo'te characters appears less of a priority for designers/developers until this sort of topic comes along.

It's pretty hard to agree with having a tail toggle option being added. So, I do hope the designers take a little extra effort and time into doing something to help with the tail issue.

Edit: Oh yeah, please no more ear covers. They're absolutely atrocious.

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Originally Posted by HakaseNyan

Edit: Oh yeah, please no more ear covers. They're absolutely atrocious.

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I'm sorry, did you say something? I can't hear you through the plate mail over my ears.

Playing triple triad, I noticed so many miqotes in one spot. Now that is a lot of tails.

http://i.imgur.com/c3nfACJ.jpg