Implementation of a "Tail Toggle"

[KokonoeAiyoko]

There are outfits that should hide the tail based on what's actually being worn. There are some outfits that do this correctly like the Ghost outfit which hides the tail, but others that don't and look awkward.



A tail toggle could be implemented, which has pros and cons depending on the viewpoint. I'll start with the cons:

CONS
1. People could keep the tail disabled 24/7 hurting race diversity.
2. It may seem awkward with Tailed Races in revealing outfits without their tail showing.

PROS
1. It would single-handedly solve the Tailed Races clipping issues for the outfits that do clip awfully.
2. It would save the development team time on fixing certain outfits because a toggle would negate any need to actually modify any of the outfits based on this specific issue.
3. Would allow Tailed Races to enjoy outfits other races wear normally without being awkward.

[AskaRay]

Like really only those full-body outfits look weird with a tail to me.... pretty much all normal clothing looks fine.

The devs could just, yanno, change it so the tails can't be seen. Already have to modify it per race anyway...

[KokonoeAiyoko]

Like really only those full-body outfits look weird with a tail to me.... pretty much all normal clothing looks fine.

The devs could just, yanno, change it so the tails can't be seen. Already have to modify it per race anyway...

It depends on normal clothing, for example usually it's only the skin tight stuff that doesn't clash, but when you have bulkier clothing, it tends to clip quite a bit.

Examples:






This is actually far more than just a few outfits or even full-body outfits, anything with depth clashes with the tail. SE has already mentioned they won't change how the tail performs under such gear, and removing the tail from these outfits would amount to a lot of editing.

[dioxideUniversa]

i came to this thread to ridicule the idea until i saw the screenshot

i'm sorry

[Nephera]

i came to this thread to ridicule the idea until i saw the screenshot

i'm sorry

Yeah me too

[Velox]

Yea it would be much better if costumes like the reindeer and chocobo just forced the tail to not render (like the ghost and snowman costumes).

It looks fine with normal clothing, but on designed "costumes" it looks awkward.

[Noxifer]

It looks fine with normal clothing, but on designed "costumes" it looks awkward.

Like really only those full-body outfits look weird with a tail to me.... pretty much all normal clothing looks fine.

Umm... Yeah, I'm going to go with no.

Back when I was a miqo'te, I finally had to change my glamour because that looked so absolutely painful D: Whoever thought it'd be a good idea to have the tail sticking out four ilms to the left/right of the opening for it?



Edit:

Something else I find dumb is that the tail color cannot be set separately from the hair color. That is nothing but dumb, and should be fixed as soon as possible.

Yeah >.< And especially the liontail-looking one. Even no individual settings for tail colour, how hard would it have been to code the "naked" part of the tail to conform to skincolour and the tuft to haircolour?

[Felis]

Umm... Yeah, I'm going to go with no.

Back when I was a miqo'te, I finally had to change my glamour because that looked so absolutely painful D: Whoever thought it'd be a good idea to have the tail sticking out four ilms to the left/right of the opening for it?

Because the tail do a curve to the side at the beginning (that is covered by the gear). Just take off the gear and you will see.

Solution to fix: SE can change the male Miqo'te tail or you switch to female Miqo'te ^^

[Noxifer]

Because the tail do a curve to the side at the beginning (that is covered by the gear). Just take off the gear and you will see.

Solution to fix: SE can change the male Miqo'te tail or you switch to female Miqo'te ^^

And this changes the gear design to good design with no tail issues?
Yes, I'd love if they could somehow fix it so all tails match with all gear. Including the noct chestpiece and the chocobo suit.
Changing my gender just for that? No. Not unless I can keep my male emotes and voice, thank you very much. :p

The tail isn't "naked", it's just short hair. Have you ever seen a lion or at least a photo? The tuft is a darker shade of the chosen hair color.

A lion also has short fur all over his body, and the tail is a continuation of said body fur. And the quotation marks around the word naked were there because lion tails aren't actually naked, but compared to the tuft of hair -- and to the other available tails -- it's comparatively naked. Perhaps a poor choice of words, but with around 39 degrees of fever (Celcius/centigrade), it was the best I could come up with at the time and somehow thought it would be apparent what I meant ^^; Clearly that wasn't the case.
And it's not like the miqo'te have lion tails anyway :3 they have miqo'te tails. And if a lion's tail continues main body colour up until the tuft which is often the colour of their mane (or the darkest parts of their mane in case of varying hues - just as we can have highlights in our hair that shouldn't be taken into account for this), then why shouldn't a miqo'te's tail with this appearance continue the main body colour up until the tuft? O.o

We can only hope that with 2 tailed races they look into this issue more closely.

I hope so too ^_^
(And on a random note, I first interpreted it as two-tailed races ^^; That'd be awesome, IMO, but... Way too many clipping issues XD)