Please allow us to join all three companies

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Originally Posted by KitCat

That's one thing I found odd. It makes zero sense that the rewards aren't even from the guilds in the related cities. Like, really?

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I thought this was odd also. The only motivation I could think of, is that Limsa currently only has one active DoW/M guild (since musketeers and arcanists aren't active yet). If GC gear ~ city guilds, Grid and Ul'dah would have gear for three classes, while Limsa would only have one.

In response to OP :

currently every quest in the Grand Companies is mirrored between the three. I fully expect that this will continue.

I expect the gear from GCs will continue to be equivalent stat-wise to good crafted gear, so no one will be losing effectiveness by choosing a GC. GC Gear is intended (I believe) to help give the nations a sense of identity within the players' minds.

I don't want to join all three.

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Originally Posted by KitCat

Hahaha

< Proud Bastokan for 5 years.

Getting some of those outpost warps were a LONG time coming. Like the saruta ones O_O. Sure felt good when I got them though.

That's another thing I miss about FFXI hah, I'd almost forgotten.


As for the OP, just switch when you're done with one. It's what I'll do. When I get the item I want I'll switch back to my own cities company. All the extra work for a few items is a pain but oh well. The items might not even end up being useful.

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Hehe, yeah I had nothing against Bastok =) In fact, Gustaberg was my favorite place to level new jobs back in the day (I just loved the music!). But yeah, it was great having pride in a nation and just focusing on one for a bit. When "Lastok" started winning 1st and 2nd place, it definitely made a lot of us Sandies and Windies start taking things a bit more seriously. It was kinda fun!

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

so i have to devote my self to a city that i do not want to devote to just for the sake of them giving items that i want? (eg. Lancer's weapon in Limsa??) :< why Gridania no give Lancer weapons! :<

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How do you know that the Gridania company don't give you a Lance after you joined them? You have only seen the recruit shop list, not the whole list. The NPC say this to you, too. They only show you the whole list after you joined them.

Some random thoughts of mine.

Generally I like the idea of devoting myself to one couse. This is especially fun, since all 3 companies seems to concnetrate on something else, like Gridania would likely deal with Mhigo resistance and Ul'dah trying to keep trade going.

However, there are 2 things that irritate me.

First, which is not a problem at the moment, the only way to experience all 3 companies would be to have 3 characters, but any additional character would mean higher monthly fee to play the game. That means for me, that at the very least one should be able to change companies later, once one is done.

Second, as mentioned before, gear. I love gridania, and the resistance movement in Mhigo seems very interesting to me, so I'd love to join there... but IIRC (I only recently begun to play again, so there are holes/errors in my knowledge) gridania does not have weapons for gladiator, my main class.

I in no way want to join all three companies, I muchly prefer to be loyal to one and have a sense of "home" in the game.

However, I'm really really praying that you can do the content be they leves or quests with people from other countries. I remember the days of trying to track down a full party of Windurst citizens for some inane high level quest in XI. However they work it, I just hope that every body present to help kill things doesn't have to be of the same alliance.

I admit ... a lot of this hope is because I'm the lone Gridania in a group of stinky Uldah lovers and I don't want to be forced to join the company I don't want just so I'm able to take part in content/not left trying to find a PUG.

I was happy to see that they will be introducing tradable rewards from the companies in 1.19, and likely all stuff that you have to join to get will be tradeable.

This is a much better solution I think than letting (making) people join all 3 companies just to get the items.

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Originally Posted by Kaizlu

Perhaps, is to "force" people out of Ul'dah.

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Broken way of going at it in my opinion. Maybe there is something they intend to do that will make sense of this. We'll see I guess.

I like the idea of choosing one and sticking with it. But, I also don't like the thought of my home nation might not offering the gear I want since I will be going with my home nation no matter what.

i say no to being able to join all 3 at once if you want to join another company pay gil to do so similar to XI's City States

They need to either let us join all companies at the same time, or have a situation like in FFXI with Windy, Sandy, and Bastok.

NO THANKS, TROLL OP.

WHY NOT ASK TO SWIM UNDERWATER OR GO TO MOON.

GAME IS ALREADY TOO EASY.

Seems like you are all missing the part of the producer letter where it says that after joining a single company, further rewards will be tradeable. Meaning it is like FFXI and you can just buy/sell any items unique to a particular company.

So unless it launches and this was a lie, there is nothing here really to complain about.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

That's only up to R30 (not sure which Rank) but after that all 3 becomes same storyline from what I read.
And reason why in the latest Japanese game magazine they explained that they want players to think of grand company as a new starting point and deciding which country to start and stick to.

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its kinda the same in XI the first few missions was the same for all nation in XI up to like rank 5 missions i believe but having all three nations have the same story is a good thing unlike XI where you would be spending like 3+ hrs trying to find someone to do missions with cause they are from a different city

No. Being loyal to and able to progress in only one city's company is good. They will likely have costly ways to switch sides, event tho it isn't likely to be necessary either. The gear we are shown now is just recruit gear. There will be more added to equip all avaliable classes, specific to the city.

More people than you think will chose Gridania and Limsa, with the coming of air ship travel between the 3 city states, there wont be many no anima complaints, not without the no money either complaints, and unless its to coerthans or mor dhona, which chocobo travel will cover unless one is way too lazy for even that (which is expected). Also because of the guildleve change, Ul'dah is slowly losing its convenient location status. New players especially wont be hanging around Ul'dah if they want marks in classes besides those that are in Ul'dah.

Well, letting us do all 3 past recruit is just a bad idea. Others have given good reasons why too. People need to have something to be loyal to. Even though we may be mercenaries now, since we are just recruits, gaining rank will remove that mercenary status. Unless you think it is fine for one to be an officer in the US military and say the Russian military at the same time lol. They have a word for that, and a punishment too if you get cought :).

I agree with Reika, I want to show my pride for whichever city I choose, not all three, it just seems odd. I'm torn between choosing Gridania and Uldah..but whichever one I end up with, I'll be proud to show off my chocobo with that city's banner on it.

At first I thought I'd be stuck with Limsa's grand company because of their thamaturge rewards, but if they add items for all classes and/or we can supposedly trade items that we get from grand companies, then there's really no need to join more than one.. (IMO of course)

I'm the few that thinks it should be a permanent decision. You are joining one company and following their rules and whatnot. It's logical that you should only be able to join one company. I mean it's bad enough you get to do almost the same exact missions for each one.

Leave us the decision but make it permanent

Sorry if this has been addressed already. At first this was something I would have liked, but after doing the first three recruit quests, they felt too similar as is. I don't want to do the same content three times every patch day. If this leads to unique and varied storylines for each GC, then I'm all for a method of being able to change allegiance to see the different stories, but if they're going to keep with the "make everything pretty much the same" route, I'd rather they go with locking us in to one company.

Spoke to Yoshida about this to get an answer for you all. You can only belong to one Grand Company and once you join one officially you will be unable to switch allegiances. With that said, we'd like you to check out each of the Companies beforehand and decide which you want to pledge your allegiance to.

I think its a good thing that you can only pick one. :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Spoke to Yoshida about this to get an answer for you all. You can only belong to one Grand Company and once you join one officially you will be unable to switch allegiances. With that said, we'd like you to check out each of the Companies beforehand and decide which you want to pledge your allegiance to.

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That kind of lame, i want to join gridania, but im force to join limsa because it has my weapon class.

Can't they all give same equipments? I really do not want to join Limsa just for the sake of my Weapon collection.

P/S I do not mind joining only "one" company, but i would not like to be force to choose a certain company due to their items.

That said. This is lame.

Seirra, I believe they had said in an interview that future Company gear would be tradeable/sellable, don't quote me on that though. Also don't forget that there will surely be other sources of high-level weapons even if the trading/selling thing is incorrect.

Bayohne, is there any info if we will be able to help our buddies in different companies with their company-specific quests? It would be nice if we could all choose where we wanted to go instead of having to settle on the same one. So far it doesn't seem like we need to be of a specific allegiance but I just want to be sure.

it should be like in FFXI where you can change nations by doing a quest that way if you started in Sandy....but wanted to play DRK and needed centurion gear (since Sandy's gear sucked) you could switch to Bastok....that's how it needs to be...not this crap

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

That kind of lame, i want to join gridania, but im force to join limsa because it has my weapon class.

Can't they all give same equipments? I really do not want to join Limsa just for the sake of my Weapon collection.

P/S I do not mind joining only "one" company, but i would not like to be force to choose a certain company due to their items.

That said. This is lame.

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I'm in the exact same boat, and I completely agree. Each company should offer weapons/armor for all classes. Even if the stats aren't identical, they should be comparable. I also opens the door for more diverse appearances for gear. If the stats for complete sets of gear (weapons and armor) at the 3 companies all added up to the same totals (even if they were distributed differently across the different pieces), then in end-game scenarios we'd have 3 different types of appearances rather than everyone running around in the same gear. This is how I would like to see Grand Companies work -- a chance to offer more variety.

As long as either:
- Rewards/weapons in line with the Guilds of the city the GC,
- All GC's off all weapons/gear for every class,
- No class/job gear is offered as a reward in GC's from this point on.
i'm fine with being locked into one, (i prefer the 1st option/ 2nd is probably best for the masses)

And i do think being a member at low level of all is acceptable,
But not at hi level, the low level association could have its own content helping that GC by order of your GC.

But i would hate being forced to pick the storyline i want over the items i'll probably want if we go the way of gear placment from 1.18.
(I chose Grid over LL purely on the guilds suiting my character, (and KotM from that) after really enjoying LL in beta.)

You know...if they limit us to only 1 company without being able to switch or help our friends on their quests, everyone will probably end up sticking with Uldah...just like with everything else...

I am very disappointed to hear that we will not be able to change companies. One company might suit us for a while if we are playing one class type, and then later on if we level a different class, another company might be more appropriate.

I fine with restricting us to one company at a time, but not ever being able to switch is not fun at all. I hate being required to choose one or the other permanently. I would not mind if there were limits on how often we could switch, if there were quests required to switch that were challenging, a gil requirement, etc. Just let me have a way to change my mind later in the game.

Bay will probably put better translated one for this one but here's copy/paste of what I got from the JP reps.
Copy/paste from my translation thread.
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On the JP grand company thread players asked questions regarding below and rep responded to them.

Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/16455

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

こんにちは。
Hello

2点ほどコメントです。
Comment regarding these two

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軍票がもらえるクエストで繰り返し可能なものってあるのかな？
For Grand Company quest which you can obtain company seal, are there ones you can repeat?

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軍票がもらえるクエストやコンテンツは、パッチ1.19を皮切りに段階的に実装していきます。
With patch 1.19 we will start releasing quests and contents which you can obtain company seal.

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正式に所属したら、他の2国のは脱退扱いになって、軍票はなくなるんだろうか
When officially assigned to one country will the other two country be considered released and will the company seal be gone (for those other country)

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はい、なくなってしまいます。
ただし、将来用途が発生する可能性も踏まえ内部データとしては保持されます。
Yes it will be gone, but for future there may be possibility to use them so the internal data will be stored.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Bay will probably put better translated one for this one but here's copy/paste of what I got from the JP reps.
Copy/paste from my translation thread.
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On the JP grand company thread players asked questions regarding below and rep responded to them.

Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/16455

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So "Use 'em or Lose 'em for now"

Don't forget that there will be airships coming so people won't be completely flocking to the Ul'dah company out of convenience. There's tons of people that are going to go to Limsa or Gridania if you ask around.

BloodLotus, I got from that that they would be "disabled" but they are still saved in the event that we can eventually change companies.

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はい、なくなってしまいます。
ただし、将来用途が発生する可能性も踏まえ内部データとしては保持されます。
Yes it will be gone, but for future there may be possibility to use them so the internal data will be stored.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Don't forget that there will be airships coming so people won't be completely flocking to the Ul'dah company out of convenience. There's tons of people that are going to go to Limsa or Gridania if you ask around.

BloodLotus, I got from that that they would be "disabled" but they are still saved in the event that we can eventually change companies.

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FFXI had airships and teleport spells...people all still flocked to 1 city...which is how linked AHs came about.

They may allow us to buy stuff from other companies with an additional cost in seals and/or gils (like FFXI conquest item)

Oh I don't doubt people will centralize in order to have more access to markets/shouts/etc, but it's much different than picking a storyline you want to go through. ie: I pick the Gridania grand company, I go there to do business, but I still come back to Ul'dah at the end of the day.

Jeuno was the center of the world in FF11 and had airships going everywhere, the other places only went to jeuno so by design it was intended to be where everyone gathered.

If the weapons become sellable/tradable in future it would make sense to go with the least popular company and make lots of money from the people who never leave Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Spoke to Yoshida about this to get an answer for you all. You can only belong to one Grand Company and once you join one officially you will be unable to switch allegiances. With that said, we'd like you to check out each of the Companies beforehand and decide which you want to pledge your allegiance to.

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Spoke to Yoshida about this to get an answer for you all. You can only belong to one Grand Company and once you join one officially you will be unable to switch allegiances. With that said, we'd like you to check out each of the Companies beforehand and decide which you want to pledge your allegiance to.

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This sucks, my character is Ul'dahn and it's main melee class is pugilist, and it's main mage class is thaum, i'm in the perfect place. So imagine my surprise when my pugilist items are in gridania and my thaumaturge items are in limsa.
Seriously, that's messed up.
How about this, don't make class gear specific to one company, share the gear love. Why would any one company be gear exclusive to any classes anyway.

Great... So I have to stick to Lominsa? ... makes me sad.

I too, felt forced to pick one city because of the weapons...until I realised the weapons in DH are better...and that crafted weapons are even better.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Spoke to Yoshida about this to get an answer for you all. You can only belong to one Grand Company and once you join one officially you will be unable to switch allegiances. With that said, we'd like you to check out each of the Companies beforehand and decide which you want to pledge your allegiance to.

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Well, I'm happy at this news. I like that there are decisions we have to make that aren't reversible. If we can only get gear for certain classes at certain companies then so be it.

I generally don't like irreversible decisions in MMORPGs. For something major like this, there should be some way to experience each storyline / each company.

But basically what's going to happen here is since most people are in Ul'Dah, most people will join the Ul'Dah company and the other two will be generally weaker.