In the End we received jobs and a race no one asked for.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

yeah, nobody cares about your conspiracies.

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You should be awarded the "Perfect Customer Star 2014". Have fun with your rose tinted goggles. Artistic vision..female Au Ra...laughable.

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Originally Posted by Adormus

You should be awarded the "Perfect Customer Star 2014". Have fun with your rose tinted goggles. Artistic vision..female Au Ra...laughable.

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Leonhart is right. No one cares at all.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

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I didn't say we don't need another DPS, I just said we didn't need another class that revolves around pets. They can just do another caster DPS without a pet gimmick. Between ACN, SMN, and SCH, I just think we can have a break from the whole caster + pet AI thing for a while. It's fine if they introduce something later, but we don't need it right now.

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Originally Posted by FuraXai

Leonhart is right. No one cares at all.

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I do care. That's reason enough for me to complain. Know what? That's just what I will be doing.

Am I blind? Forums suddenly speak of new jobs and also new race but I don't see anything in Lodestone so far...

I saw videos and links of the new race in their thread, but no videos of those new jobs here. Could anyone post?

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Originally Posted by Adormus

I do care. That's reason enough for me to complain. Know what? That's just what I will be doing.

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Okidoki. HFGL

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Originally Posted by Adrian74

Am I blind? Forums suddenly speak of new jobs and also new race but I don't see anything in Lodestone so far...

I saw videos and links of the new race in their thread, but no videos of those new jobs here. Could anyone post?

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I thought the same thing but I found this http://kotaku.com/check-out-final-fa...sse-1673451919

In the end we have another brat trying to speak for everyone by saying "everyone" in his thread title.
Don't like them? Don't play them. I'll be turning my character into a female Au Ra the day the expansion drops. I'll wait for the buzz of the 3 new classes to die down before trying them as I did nin during the hype time and that was just dreadful.

Was the poll even open to non subbing players at the time? That was a really old poll.

I think what 1.xx players want out of xiv and what post-arr players wanted out of xiv are generally very different, whether small or big.

You know that Yoshida confirmed we'd get a Dragon/Human hybrid race like last year, right? Why are you complaining now and not then?

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Originally Posted by Adrian74

Am I blind? Forums suddenly speak of new jobs and also new race but I don't see anything in Lodestone so far...

I saw videos and links of the new race in their thread, but no videos of those new jobs here. Could anyone post?

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Here Adrian ^^
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ed-the-FF-vids
enjoy :)

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Guys why are you HANING on the Race?!

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Yes we hear you. Your initial post is rather mild so you don't come of as some salty dude (dudette?). Then your further replies show your true motive: you're salty there is no caster job. It's a lot of "I am not happy", "I this", "I that", "I , I, me, me, me". See where I'm going?

It looks like many people love the new jobs. SE can't please everyone. Just look forward to it. I for one am waiting on SAM since 1.0. In the meantime I enjoy the game with what it offers, and it's a joy!

I think the next dps job will be magic dps again. They have made a good choice to add a third tank and healer. 3.0 (so far) will have 3 tanks, 3 healers, 3 melee, 2 physical ranged and 2 caster ranged. When they add the next ranged dps, I think it's going to be magical since physical ranged (machinist) came last.

If BLM bores you and SMN is no option and other jobs don't appeal to you, well.. Do I need to say more? xD

To be fair, the player poll conducted back in 1.0 was for a number of players that are now a minority to the current population. Those that didn't play 1.0 never got to let their voices be heard and, therefore, would never think that 'we' didn't ask for anything like Au Ra to be added.

On top of that, the 1.0 player poll results aren't concrete rules that this game needs to follow. They helped shape the direction of ff14 in order to provide it's players with a game that continues to thrive. And before people raise their pitchforks at my post, I played during 1.0 and participated in all of the polls. Not everything I selected was the popular choice and I find the game quite enjoyable :D

Oh look, a ENTM non related post by Rongi! :O 4th one ever.

I know we have to stick to the Tank DD Healer Trinity, but I was really hoping for something a little off the wall for each of them. Shadow Tank, Front line Mage DD, and Alchemist healing!

But then all these jobs got released and actually...I am pretty excited! I wont be touching Dark, but Machinist and Astrologist look fierce as Cycle 2 winner Maxwell! ;)

As for the dragon race, the men look super cool with those horns, but I don't like the huge difference in body types for males and females. Hopefully we get a bunny race in the next expansion! :3

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Originally Posted by FuraXai

I thought the same thing but I found this http://kotaku.com/check-out-final-fa...sse-1673451919

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Thanks a lot!

Finally some cool ranged job. (Bard is ... well... It's... Meh)

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Originally Posted by Atomnium

Here Adrian ^^
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ed-the-FF-vids
enjoy :)

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Thanks too! Videos are always better.

Since we haven't got any new magic DPS in the expansion I can imagine we'll get some in a patch like we did NIN. I also imagine it'll be RDM. It better be. Pls, Yoshida. Pls.

Realised I didn't really reply to the actual topic. Someone in this thread earlier said they didn't know they wanted Astrologian. Neither did I. I love the look and I love the concept. I will most definitely try it out when it comes out. I was a bit late on the healer train with WHM and SCH so it'll be nice to catch up with the crowd and get healing with the new job! I also love the Draconian race, a lot of people suspected we'd get a Gria type race, and this is very close to that. It also fits the environment and the story that Shiva set up. It's a really good addition.

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Originally Posted by Adrian74

Finally some cool ranged job. (Bard is ... well... It's... Meh)

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Hey, now! Them's be fightin' words! BRDs are cool! Boosting morale via song about how we'll take six pence of coal for two pence of loyalty is the epitome of cool.

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I think Machinist has been asked for by a few people over recent times. I must say though, Dancer would have been a nice addition.

Also no Carbuncles for SMN ... /sigh

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

...they conducted a poll? o.O

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back in 1.0 but the poll was misunderstand, but SE have mention many time they will add new dragon beast man race. Honestly I did not expect the race to look like this, I was think about...you know, look beastly like the other beast man in the game

We gamers should be suprised, I am so happy that that we are getting a tech based job and a unknown healer. Give the new jobs a chance, before you dismiss them.

Yoshi: I forgot that no one wanted DRK lolz

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../cf/4724_0.jpg


Players: Wheres my lala-qote D:

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...cf/4724_13.jpg

Well new jobs looks cool and all but im not really that interested, what im looking is what new juicy stuff current jobs will get. So has there been any info about new skills/tweaks?

Dark Knight being a tank, no Red Mage, Heavensward is making me happy.

what is this we? im trading in my axe for a firearm......

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

Also no Carbuncles for SMN ... /sigh

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carbuncles belong on my shelf.

Well it looks like some people did ask for these. Maybe not the majority of players, but people did.

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

In the End we received jobs and a race I didn't ask for. Whhhhaaaaaaaaa ; ;

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Fixed it for you!

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Originally Posted by Altanas

Yoshi: I forgot that no one wanted DRK lolz

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../cf/4724_0.jpg

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Well, technically...

All of those jobs have been provided, or are coming.

the close range / enfeebling was combined on the summoner/scholar
ninja/theif = rogue

musketeer and dark knight are coming.

Probably going to Fantasia one of my femRoe alts to the new race. I think they look cute. I wasn't around for the votes but I'm pretty excited about everything they've shown so far.

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Originally Posted by Altanas

Yoshi: I forgot that no one wanted DRK lolz

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../cf/4724_0.jpg


Players: Wheres my lala-qote D:

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...cf/4724_13.jpg

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Well considering these are pre-ARR polls, we got pet class with summoner, ninja/thf, and original job. And we also got a mixed race / demi-beastman though something nobody expected. Needed some job to fill the tank requirement and I guess DRK was the easy choice.

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Originally Posted by dice137

I never said I wanted you to do anything, let alone did I say I wanted to prove anything to you or anyone else. :rolleyes: My point was that no race that they could've added would be original enough to satiate most people's palettes.



I meant redundant in terms of jobs we already have in 14, not across games or whatever? SMN already fills the role of pet-commanding DPS. We don't need another any time soon.

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But Summoner sucks at the pet-commanding role

Was really hoping to see chemist as the healer/gun job. Astrologian is so random. Machinist looks alright though, I hope it relies a lot on the bots.

Definitely not that excited about the new race, the male Au Ra look weird. If they wanted a "draconian" race they could have copied a bit off the Aman in TERA, which actually looks the part (Au Ra females look like cuter Hyur females with a few scales and a tail).

I think they should have just went with the fans on this one: SAM - tank, Chemist - healer, Musketeer - DD

The more I look at them the more I get bothered by the random/inconsistent pattern of their scales which kinda look like scabs and now I feel itchy o____o

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Originally Posted by Ronzeru

Re-remember the scene where she crawls across him, opens her mouth, annnnd....... =3

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That anime in your sig. What is its name? I must watch o.o

I never wanted a Viera-like race. I really don't like "fan service" races at all. Besides, we already got one (Miqote). I have to say I'm a bit disappointed that the new race was not fully reptilian. Instead we got a Highlander/Elezen with horns and a tail. Much like Miqote are just midlanders with cat ears and tails. I really wish they would make actually beast-like races to play instead of keeping everything "beautiful".

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Originally Posted by Veerne

I never wanted a Viera-like race. I really don't like "fan service" races at all. Besides, we already got one (Miqote). I have to say I'm a bit disappointed that the new race was not fully reptilian. Instead we got a Highlander/Elezen with horns and a tail. Much like Miqote are just midlanders with cat ears and tails. I really wish they would make actually beast-like races to play instead of keeping everything "beautiful".

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Skyrim is the one you want to play if you want a fully reptilian race.

I cannot dissuade you from your opinion OP but let me give you my perspective. First off as long Final Fantasy player I am beyond happy with Machinist being the new gun class. The reason being was Final Fantasy Tactics on the playstation was my first time playing any of the games. A friend of mine gifted it to me for my birthday as he noticed I liked to play chess and he himself owned the game. Fast forward I get Mustadio (the Machinist) and later on I get to the special spell guns. He was always on my team for his ability to keep trash in check. When it was teased that we were getting a gun job on here I secretly hoped it would be Machinist or even Engineer. It would fit with the lore of the game as well as lore of Ishgard. They have Engineers. I was not naïve enough to bet the farm on it. Second guess was Musketeer honestly and I would have been happy with that too. But when they showed Machinist last night it was almost like Christmas came early for me just that the present would be a little late getting here.

To top it off I had to step away from the computer to feed the family and when I got back my FC mates told me about the new race. One of my friends told me some of the details and described some of the looks based on what they had seen. I know it was announced before Machinist, still, I found out after the fact. I have been waiting for a draconian like race as I main Dragoon and while I know that's cheesy I have a sort of obsession with dragons. Got a $400 tattoo on my right forearm to prove the point lol. So Au Ra was a nice surprise for me as well. I really didn't think we would get a draconian race on here.

Now, I grant you there are some things that should be a given. We do need a new caster dps. What it would be or what I would suggest I cannot say at this moment. They do listen, they do read our stuff, but look at it like this; while I am certain Yoshida wants to fulfill the requests and desires of everyone that plays he also has to make it fit somewhere. He had the lore, the want of a new ranged class that used guns, so he made Machinist. Astrologian was just as easy but to be honest I figured it would be a dps or CC. I think its refreshing though I don't play healer jobs, can't get the knack of it.

TL;DR While it may not be what you wished, take it in stride. Who knows, next expansion you may get what you're after and more :)

The race looks amazing, the jobs look amazing. Nothing to complain about.

Hmm... noone asked for Dark Knight... you must be new, people have had Dark Knight at the top of their Job wishlists for as long as ARR's been running (right alongside Red Mage and Musketeer). Musketeer... sorry, Machinist, has been wanted since 1.0, though it's pretty clear Machinist isn't going to be the Job we've been waiting for if Heavensward is going the Advanced Jobs route (i.e. based off the Jobs instead of the classes). The Viera as a race was only listed to give an example. Clearly they didn't go with it, but still delivered on the requested option with a partially draconic race. The only curve ball in the lot is Astrologian. I mean, really, who saw that coming?! It's like the ultimate expression of Yugioh in Final Fantasy! Or Magic the Gathering. Mostly Yugioh. I can see the macros now..., "I reveal my trap card! Esuna!", "Believe in the Heart of the Cards! Regen!"...