Bring back weekly Item limit on Sycrus Tower, please!!

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Originally Posted by Yhoiryo

Please, it's fine the way it is.

I rolled a 89 and a 90 on a sands and got beaten out on both by people who rolled higher. I've seen people roll 98 than someone else gets a 99. High rolls mean nothing, it's all about RNG.

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At least with a high roll you have a chance >_> Try going 5+ runs and not rolling higher than a 30 on any item

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

At least with a high roll you have a chance >_> Try going 5+ runs and not rolling higher than a 30 on any item

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Know your limits play within it lol
Looks like someone gots a gambling addiction eh? xD
Don't set urself up to get rekt by rng !

Solution for you.
Make a Party Finder.
-Goal: To make 8 runs of ST, All Sands/Oils/UATs go to 1 player per run, cycling through the list.

Works better if you can get FC/LS friends to join you. less chance of people just leaving when they get their turn.

That works out at 3 Sands and 2 oils per run.

No need to bring back lock outs . Better is to bring new mats that can only be obtained by doing this raid.

A clear example is T4 for allagan leather. Everyone seems to be doing it nonstop

Short answer: No.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

At least with a high roll you have a chance >_> Try going 5+ runs and not rolling higher than a 30 on any item

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Or you could go 5+ runs and roll 90+ on every item....its RNG i've had bad and good luck at times. I don't know what else to say.... lol. Its good how it is. /thread

People already shout for no weekly limit and you just want it limit again? lolno.

Or they could make it so everyone gets their own unique loot per chest. Now, wouldn't that be nice? I can dream. <_<

On the matter of getting a lot of low rolls and losing... personally I think it sucks more to get a really high roll and lose, than a low roll. If I roll a 5, considering that there's 94 possible rolls that can beat mine I just think- ok this is one of the ones I'm not going to get. However when you roll an 89 or a 94 or whatever, you know this could very likely be your turn to win. Getting a 90 (which I'll use to make example easier) prob feels like you're very likely going to win, but while I'm not a mathematician I'm guessing each of your 7 other pary members has a roughly 1 in 10 shot that they roll a number higher than your 90 vs and where between 1 and 89. With a full 8 people bidding on each individual item, the number your roll for each one has to survive 7 individual challenges from other players, each with a 1/10 chance of beating you if you rolled a 90. So psychologically the feeling is there that 'How could I have not won this one, even with a high number I lose!' I would just remember that for each Sands of Time that's rolled on, there's 7 names in the list that didn't get it, and 8 people from your party will walk into ST wanting a Sands, but at a minimum 6 will walk out without getting one... 7 if one person wins twice.

One thing I've wondered about recently... people don't ever roll identical numbers, so whatever number turns up must be excluded from the list of possible values for subsequent rolls. Is there an advantage being the person to roll first or last, or does it matter? Something I was thinking is since we're essentially only rolling against the highest number or else it doesn't matter what we roll... when you have a lot of other people rolling, whoever amongst them gets the highest number is the one you have to beat, so does that mean everyone but one person is simply removing losing values from the pool of available numbers, and being the last to roll means having less potential losing numbers available to you???

Almost reminds me of the few people who in FFXI said they shouldn't reduce the entry fee to Dynamis, and later shortening the lockout to 1 day instead of a week due to more people farming.

Aside from that isn't there a lockout on the "need" button when it comes to gear instead of sand, oil, and tomes?

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Originally Posted by Reokudo

Or they could make it so everyone gets their own unique loot per chest. Now, wouldn't that be nice? I can dream. <_<

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Don't they do that in Guildwars2?

Ok I've thought through my last post above some more and I think I'm onto why for large groups looting on one item (like 24 for ST minion) there's often a person delaying the roll. I thought before they were just trying to troll people into giving up and leaving. Now I think they just want to be the last to roll. If 23 people have rolled on something, and you're number 24...and you can't roll the same number as anyone else... there's currently one roll that's the winning one of the group, and twenty-two losing rolls which are no longer possible for you to get. Could be the highest number already drawn is a 99 and winning is impossible, or could be it's only 85 and yet you roll a 12 and lose anyway. But I'm thinking the person who rolls last has improved odds over whoever rolls first, and that's easier to see when you consider a situation where 24 vs 8 people roll on something.

who said that two people can't have the same number?

thats not how dice rolling works.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

Almost reminds me of the few people who in FFXI said they shouldn't reduce the entry fee to Dynamis, and later shortening the lockout to 1 day instead of a week due to more people farming.

Aside from that isn't there a lockout on the "need" button when it comes to gear instead of sand, oil, and tomes?




Don't they do that in Guildwars2?

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I think so. I know they do it in TESO(If memory serves correctly. I forget, haven't touched that game since release)

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

who said that two people can't have the same number?

thats not how dice rolling works.

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I'm very intrigued then... so when you saw two players with identical high rolls at any point in the game, which one got the loot? Or did it give one of whatever it was to each of them?


You have seen this happen, right? Two people rolling the same high number?

Never had see two people with same number. I just guess when you roll, you roll a number that still havent already given. More than dice roll, it is a lotto draw.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Never had see two people with same number. I just guess when you roll, you roll a number that still havent already given. More than dice roll, it is a lotto draw.

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My thoughts exacty.

Yeah, two people can't roll the same number. It's like drawing from 99 straws. Once one is taken nobody else can get it.

Are you sure. In 11 people could have the same roll and this was 0-999 not just 0-99. In that case the tiebreaker was always dealt with by giving the item to whoever rolled the number first.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Oh, and because I just noticed this in a sig:

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

Commendations.
If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

Only if they should be getting a commendation.

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Sounds like a very poor system to me. By all means, try to balance the roles who get commendations, but it sounds like you are just doing it according to what you are playing, rather than who was the best contributing player.

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Also read it, I know it doesn't come to the thread, and I write it too late but... I have been reading that signature too many times and thinking: "..... Really?" Seems like laziest way to do it, or you analyze well the work and effort put by all party members or you rather don't give it randomely. (In my case, I don't give commends in 8 players content, because I can't be tracking what the other 7 dudes do and it would be unfair to give it randomely) In 4 players.... Since I play all classes I know when someone does it either extraordinary good or puts a lot of effort, that one gets the commend. (Yes, 95% of the cases there's someone putting quite more effort than the rest, it is rare to find a super party in DF playing with full passion)

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Are you sure. In 11 people could have the same roll and this was 0-999 not just 0-99. In that case the tiebreaker was always dealt with by giving the item to whoever rolled the number first.

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Yes, it's different in this game. If it could happen in this game, we'd be seeing it happen a lot more often (as opposed to never, because I've not seen it happen) with 1/10th of the numbers to choose from.

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Hello!
I finished, since the patch 2.4, 75 STs! (Any class, exept tank)
75 finished STs = 150 chances to get a Time sand, and 150 chances to get time oil!
(I never had luck to join an active run u.u)

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how do you know how many run you did?

I'm missing 1 sand and I didn't get any in roughly 20 runs... I'm at a point where I pass on the oil...

only if we take off echo for binding and second coil, and require us to clear labyrinth of the ancients first each week. lets also lower the atma drop rate and bring back tomestones of philosophy and mythology, lets also sync all the high level dungeons down to 70 andddd for good measure remove ninja from the game

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Originally Posted by OranKells

only if we take off echo for binding and second coil, and require us to clear labyrinth of the ancients first each week. lets also lower the atma drop rate and bring back tomestones of philosophy and mythology, lets also sync all the high level dungeons down to 70 andddd for good measure remove ninja from the game

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don't forget to give Titan EX his latency issues back.