Grind Camps

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

You said yourself you didn't want to tell anyone where it is because of your own greed, so stop acting all high and mighty. If anyone in this topic is being close-minded, it's you.

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i wont deny its my own greed keeping me from telling people the details of the camp
i have never denied its my own greed
you guys are acting like your point out that i dont realize thats why im not telling you the details :D

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

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You suggested his numbers were off, then refused to say how. He's obviously doing research, these things get better by combining ideas and research of multiple people, that's why we make a list. You aren't contributing by saying its wrong then not how so.

That's cool but...We don't care if your not gonna say what camp. I'm sure someone else will find it and suggest a change, being a helpful contributing member, unlike yourself. Research happens with time and doing, then we share it as mentioned above. If your gonna do your research alone and not share it, then just shut up. No one cares about your secrets that you have no intention of talking about, we'll go ahead and compile our own without you, you seem to want that so why are you sticking around again?

Again, same as above two, these things are done through multiple people contributing, not just one. If you aren't going to contribute, no one cares what you have to say, nor is anyone going to be thankful for a vague "your wrong, I'm better". You haven't said anything worthwhile or anything we should have any kind of thanks for. If this offends you then good, go away. It's not helping anyways.

Other people will talk look suggest contribute etc. you obviously have no interest in being a helpful part of the community. What I really don't get is why you bothered to post at all given your attitude.

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley;269499[B

]You suggested his numbers were off, then refused to say how[/B]. He's obviously doing research, these things get better by combining ideas and research of multiple people, that's why we make a list. You aren't contributing by saying its wrong then not how so.

That's cool but...We don't care if your not gonna say what camp. I'm sure someone else will find it and suggest a change, being a helpful contributing member, unlike yourself. Research happens with time and doing, then we share it as mentioned above. If your gonna do your research alone and not share it, then just shut up. No one cares about your secrets that you have no intention of talking about, we'll go ahead and compile our own without you, you seem to want that so why are you sticking around again?

Again, same as above two, these things are done through multiple people contributing, not just one. If you aren't going to contribute, no one cares what you have to say, nor is anyone going to be thankful for a vague "your wrong, I'm better". You haven't said anything worthwhile or anything we should have any kind of thanks for. If this offends you then good, go away. It's not helping anyways.

Other people will talk look suggest contribute etc. you obviously have no interest in being a helpful part of the community. What I really don't get is why you bothered to post at all given your attitude.

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actualy, i flat out told him why they were off, and then he whined up a storm
go back and read the whole post, you obviously havent

ive done the research, im out grinding every job i have every day for hours a day at various camps

but lets face, facts with this guide he wrote

its obvious he DIDNT do anything but look up mob ranks, and anyone who knows anything should see that

every single camp he listed above, all it does is take mob rank -10/15 and call it the rank of the camp
anyone can do that and call it a guide, but especialy in the case of grinding it just doesnt work

he woulda been better off posting the ranks of the mobs instead of saying what ranks you shoulda gone there

i have given you guys so many hints on how to change up this gudie for the better, and where to find the camps im mentioning, yet instead of looking at that, you focus on how i didnt give you DETAILS and flat out tell you what to do, and you cant get past that one fact

so why dont you go out, and find what im talking about, then youll understand what im talking about
and if your not willing to even try, then shut up and move on

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i wont deny its my own greed keeping me from telling people the details of the camp
i have never denied its my own greed
you guys are acting like your point out that i dont realize thats why im not telling you the details :D

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Actually our own point is despite the fact that you know you are choosing to not be helpful, you are being offended that no one is finding you helpful.

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley

Actually our own point is despite the fact that you know you are choosing to not be helpful, you are being offended that no one is finding you helpful.

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im not the one whining up a storm that im not being told the details :D

that seems to be what you are doing

and you care so much you keep replying to me lol


(and before you point out that im replying, lets face facts, i have a high post count for a reason, i reply to everything ALOT)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

actualy, i flat out told him why they were off, and then he whined up a storm
go back and read the whole post, you obviously havent

ive done the research, im out grinding every job i have every day for hours a day at various camps

but lets face, facts with this guide he wrote

its obvious he DIDNT do anything but look up mob ranks, and anyone who knows anything should see that

every single camp he listed above, all it does is take mob rank -10/15 and call it the rank of the camp
anyone can do that and call it a guide, but especialy in the case of grinding it just doesnt work

he woulda been better off posting the ranks of the mobs instead of saying what ranks you shoulda gone there

i have given you guys so many hints on how to change up this gudie for the better, and where to find the camps im mentioning, yet instead of looking at that, you focus on how i didnt give you DETAILS and flat out tell you what to do, and you cant get past that one fact

so why dont you go out, and find what im talking about, then youll understand what im talking about
and if your not willing to even try, then shut up and move on

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Many hints being "no your wrong" "one of the camps is better at lower level". You also assume everyone who is irritated with your right now somehow needs you to explain, but that isn't the point of this.

Lets face the facts, at least he is trying to be helpful while your are trying to not be. You give some vague "advice" while purposefully avoiding the details, then jump on your high horse and demand worship.

Ride your horse somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by MrSmiley

Many hints being "no your wrong" "one of the camps is better at lower level". You also assume everyone who is irritated with your right now somehow needs you to explain, but that isn't the point of this.

Lets face the facts, at least he is trying to be helpful while your are trying to not be. You give some vague "advice" while purposefully avoiding the details, then jump on your high horse and demand worship.

Ride your horse somewhere else.

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keep proving to me thaty you havent read my posts, please keep doing it

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im not the one whining up a storm that im not being told the details :D

that seems to be what you are doing

and you care so much you keep replying to me lol


(and before you point out that im replying, lets face facts, i have a high post count for a reason, i reply to everything ALOT)

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Lol I don't your details, I was just pointing out that your being a douche but your too blind and self important to admit it. On the note, you keep replying to me too, so goes both ways!

Replying a lot doesn't mean those replies have meant anything. I mean look at this thread, between the two of us, neither of us has done anything useful.

So on that note, I'm going to find other threads where I can post more relevant information that's actually helpful or enhances the conversation in some manner. I suggest you do the same.

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Originally Posted by Kajika

"These may or may not be the optimum locations. If you have a better camp and range, then please reply with concrete information in such a way that I can update this list."

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Please, for the love of Pete and all that is holy. This is already mentioned in the OP and all I was looking to get from anyone that chose to post in this thread. It was meant to be useful! If nobody finds it useful, then just pass it up and let it die!

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

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The OP was trying to help other people out of kindness, a concept that is obviously foreign to you. I can see where you'd think he's fishing for praise, since you seem to be the kind of person who craves hollow recognition for superficial achievement (for example, the string of rank 50 classes displayed in your signature). But that was not the OP's purpose.

You need to watch more My Little Pony. I think you would benefit from its message.

One final question though, can anyone give any examples that aren't found in this already?

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

The OP was trying to help other people out of kindness, a concept that is obviously foreign to you. I can see where you'd think he's fishing for praise, since you seem to be the kind of person who craves hollow recognition for superficial achievement (for example, the string of rank 50 classes displayed in your signature). But that was not the OP's purpose.

You need to watch more My Little Pony. I think you would benefit from its message.

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actualy i tried to help at first too giving a few suggestions
then he got all pissy
which is when i came to the conclusion he just wanted praise

again, people failing to read the whole post ftw

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

One final question though, can anyone give any examples that aren't found in this already?

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Cellar Puks and Iron Coblyns at Nanawa Mines can be handled with a light PT from 20-25. After that, 25-31, best place to grind is with Toto-Rak runs, based on exp/hr and ease of finding a group to run it with.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Cellar Puks and Iron Coblyns at Nanawa Mines can be handled with a light PT from 20-25. After that, 25-31, best place to grind is with Toto-Rak runs, based on exp/hr and ease of finding a group to run it with.

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Well hallelujah! Thank you! /updates.

EDIT: Cellar Puks were already on the list, and I didn't add coblyns because there seems to be a short enough respawn on puks to suffice even a full party. Do as you will though. :)

I looked here to see if other people had or knew about camps better than the ones I already have on my grinding schedule. I really wish I had found that. 5 pages of argument over someone commenting on how the camps listed only give a large amount of sp per mob killled, but that some of the camps might not be good because they do not give much sp over time (i.e. mobs run out, take too long to kill, etc).

That is very subjective, I want to say. For someone with a physical level of 50 who can max out attributes and can afford the best gear, some camps might run out of mobs. For others players, who are still on their first jobs, they might not run out of mobs. If we are going to bring this up, shouldn't we also bring up how difficult it is to get to the camps? What about how close the camps are to each other... so that you can move up to the next camp easily? There are tons of factors and I someone trying to help we should take him at his word that these are at least average camps, if not good ones. I feel like people shouldn't comment unless they are going to ask a question or post more camps/answer a question... the only other purpose of posting is to troll/get threads off point.

With that being said, the main point of my post is to say:

When I was checking camps for my r25 I looked at those antlings in Copperbell Mines and only saw three (however, they were blocking a path underground so more may have been down there). Are there mobs of them below there or is this antling camp somewhere down the other halls that are guarded by the higher rank monsters (which I can't get past). Also, I have not actually fought an antling, but I remember them well from when they rape r20s near Camp Horizon. I realize that those ones might be higher rank and I was a lower rank back them, but I still feel like I should ask... are antlings a good, easy mob to kill or are they difficult to kill? I have some irrational fear of them lol, and feel like they would take forever to kill and deal a ton of damage :(

Thanks for your help.

25-30 cursed eyes in nanawa mines

@kyant
no antlings arent easy kills, they have more life then mobs that rank usualy have so it takes longer to kill them

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

actualy i tried to help at first too giving a few suggestions
then he got all pissy
which is when i came to the conclusion he just wanted praise

again, people failing to read the whole post ftw

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Nope.

Paraphrasing:

He made his list, your response was "You should change that, because it isn't optimal". He responded with, "Okay, what should I change it to?" You then said, "I'm not telling you because I'm selfish. Figure it out for yourself."

That was rude. He had a right to be upset with you.

Imagine you live in a desert, and you know where all the oases are. You come across the OP in the middle of the desert drinking from a mud puddle, and you say "Oh I know where there are much nicer water sources out here, but you'll have to find them for yourself and risk getting lost in the desert and dying of thirst."

Rude.

Also, 99% sure Vedis is talking about Blue Frog, but what mobs, Idk.

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Originally Posted by Irana

25-30 cursed eyes in nanawa mines

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Thanks Irana. Do you know if this camp is able to sustain solo, duo, light party or full party? If not I'll check myself tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Kyant

When I was checking camps for my r25 I looked at those antlings in Copperbell Mines and only saw three (however, they were blocking a path underground so more may have been down there). Are there mobs of them below there or is this antling camp somewhere down the other halls that are guarded by the higher rank monsters (which I can't get past). Also, I have not actually fought an antling, but I remember them well from when they rape r20s near Camp Horizon. I realize that those ones might be higher rank and I was a lower rank back them, but I still feel like I should ask... are antlings a good, easy mob to kill or are they difficult to kill? I have some irrational fear of them lol, and feel like they would take forever to kill and deal a ton of damage :(

Thanks for your help.

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Yes, there is an absolute horde of antlings further in where you found those 3. It might be difficult to get to that camp because of the Diremites, but stick with it. If you want a good spot to solo at 25, I suggest tracking to Mun-Tuy where you can kill monkeys by the handfuls and can progress to Skeletons which still give about 400SP at R27 if I recall correctly. The respawns on them and the nearby Gnats will not carry a party larger than a trio, preferably a duo is best.

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Originally Posted by XooZQ

Thanks Irana. Do you know if this camp is able to sustain solo, duo, light party or full party? If not I'll check myself tomorrow.

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Well I used to trio in there but I did go with up to 4 more friends in there, their respawn rate isnt the best so I used to go there with my friends between behests.

We also used to clear the camp and then run to where the skeletons spawn, clear em all then go back to eyes.

Its GREAT sp.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

notice how many people have pointed out what i tried to tell the guy?

the op wanted praise, not to get suggestions or even corrected on anything in what he wrote, he blew up in my face for even suggesting his numbers were off

i used my camp last night(its on the list, he just has way wrong levels and doesnt actualy call the camp its correct name, see, another hint omg!) and i got 35k sp in a single hour....at 4 ranks above what he suggests! omg, its amazing, but i must be lying right cuz i dont tell you flat out

all im saying, do the damn research yourselves too guys, dont expect to just be flat out told every detail of every little thing, and be thankful i say anything at all to help, even if you dont wanna call it helping
thats on you

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I am not here to flame you vedis, however you are wrong and now being defensive over a something you could have improved. Instead you seem to think you have better camps to attain sp. We as the community are here to improve the game, and share knowledge. This isnt a secret society where we keep information stored away for our own selfish ambitions. If you are, then by all means please stop flooding this post with negative responses. Take a momet, calm down! Are you better yet? Listen, make a contribution to this post if you have a better solution than what was already given. Thank you for the information, i was personally going to seek camps 20+ myself, looks like someone took the time too do that. I am thankful for this, and now i will go test and give results based on my personal findings.

Op is trying to help people where as you, TheVedis, are simply flaunting things like "Oh you can get better sp but I wont tell you".

You are worse then a child running around showing everyone you have candy but wont share. I guess I was wrong when I assumed as people grew up they matured out of their childish ways.

The game is still too unbalanced for any guides to be viable. Monster placement, distribution, linking, difficulty, etc. are all still being tweaked in the next 2 updates and most likely after that as well. Not to mention our abilities are still being tweaked and "jobs" are on the way.

Please stop arguing over what is "best" right now when it's all gonna change in 1-2 months (unless peeps are still in such a hurry to get to R50 before it's actually harder to do so).

I duo'd with a Marauder from 37-43 @ Ixali Fencers @ Camp Emerald Moss Ixali Fortress. We got around 25k-35k sp/hr (lowered as we ranked up from 37-43). I recommend this camp over the camp glory one because there is another camp a little to northwest of the fortress with the same mobs, so there's less downtime.

EDIT:: There are wild hogs inbetween the two camps that we just stoneskin/quickstride through since they give less SP and have way too much HP.

I hope this doesn't kill me and my wifes camp lol but for 21-25 (didn't try after since we stopped at 25 last night)

Nanawa Mines - Puks and Will-o-wisp are fast kill + good exp for duo. Will-O was giving 400 SP till 23. Puks about 277 till 23, after was Puk around 177 and Will-O about 250. We went other locations at 24 to check around but ended coming back here since the kills were faster and mob placement in the area + respawn time is good here.

If you see us farming don't take over!! I gave you guys info!! lol

Also delete all the argument crap going on here... OP tried to help the community; TheVedis also has a point but stick to OP's stuff for this one since it's his thread could be good info in here + if OP wants he can add in camps TheVedis is also saying for faster kills more sp/HR etc. No need to keep on arguing about that s*** honestly.

Now someone tell me 25-30 where? lol trying to get GLA 36 fast since my LS guys telling me to get some ability or w/e lol

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I hope this doesn't kill me and my wifes camp lol but for 21-25 (didn't try after since we stopped at 25 last night)

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Thanks!

Hopefully we can get this thread back on track. What I would like to see is the OP take this info and update the list. I don't care if the list is perfect or the most optimum, I can figure that out myself and provide feedback. However, I would rather have good information than have no information, waiting for perfect information.

XooZQ: I wonder if you could add the mob level ranges in your list? The reason I say this is if I need to solo grind a bit, I may want to use the same list but find mobs of suitable level. Thanks again for the work and the sharing!!!

Thanks for the list!

[19-24] Monkeys/Puks @ Mun-Tuy Cellars (Full PT).
[20-24] Cellar Puks @ Nanawa Mines (Full PT).
[24-29] Skeletons/Gnats @ Mun-Tuy Cellars (5,4)(Duo/Trio).

id like to comment on these 3 suggestions, ive been lvling con and thm the past few days and the best sp/hr ive seen in a LIGHT or FULL pt is like this.

19-22 Gnats @ Mun-Tuy Cellars
22-26 Wights @ Mun-Tuy Cellars

Your 19-24 Monkeys and Puks is only about 200sp per kill, where as Gnats at lvl 19-22 are 350-400sp per kill the best way to camp here is to clr the gnat room then run around killing Squirrels and Puks while waiting, monkeys are bad SP from lvls 19-22. So while u wait for Gnat pops kill Puks and Squirrels for about 15mins then head back to Gnats, a few cycles of this and u will be 22 then you can move to Wights which theres enough to pretty much kill them nonstop and if u ever run out just go back to Gnats dont bother killing anything but Gnats and Wights from lvls 22-26, ive tested this recently and the method i explained is easy and is the best sp/hr.

Thank you for putting this together Xoo. This will come in really handy!

where are these skeletons and wights in Muy-Tuy? I looked all through that place about a week ago on a different reference to a camp there but I didn't see these. I didn't see anything in there high enough or plentiful enough to support even a duo at r25 (the best I found was 3 goblins and 2 bats together... but that is not nearly enough mobs).

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Was gonna say never mind but I see XooZQ is fast on the reply :)
I found the answer on front page:
[24-29] Skeletons/Gnats @ Mun-Tuy Cellars (5,4)(Duo/Trio).

thanks.

also, I saw that someone mentioned 25-30 there are cursed eyes in nanawa mines, but those were not on the list.

Northwest corner-ish in the two round rooms.

A group of 30-35 should check out mistbeard cove.. if you follow the jellies it is pretty decent SP.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i love how everyone is quick to judge me cuz i actualy want them to do the research
sorry that i dont give handouts telling you where to go every 5 minutes people
at least i gave you a hint, too bad your too wrapped up in your own closed mindedness and wanting handouts you couldnt actualy see that

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Help us by not posting unless your gonna contribute something.

@OP my friend found this thread inspirational and decided to make a XIV Campsitarus so if we find any spots that you didn't list I will update you on it and you can check the site.

http://ffxivcamps.blogspot.com/

Vedis, are you by any chance the leader of the mormons? You know, the guy who made an entire faith out of rules from a magic hat only he could see and know?

Love this thread guys, keep it up. If anyone has suggestions or would like to join an SP PT tonight for R16-18ish were gonna go for about 2hrs around 9:40PMish EST Server: Mysidia. Got ARC and CON so far, if anyone wants to join /tell Notorious Galoot or Prox Oni around that time we should be on. Any job works, thanks in advance.

For those who remember it, the return of Insomnia LS? Hah! I live in the UK, so it's even harder to find folks to group with.

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Originally Posted by Prox

Thank you for the post, Xoo.

I think what Vedis is saying is that you can gain more SP/hour on mobs that are a bit lower than the +10 lvl range because you can kill faster/more

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an example is the young raptor camp at iron laike.

Came here thinking someone would be nice enough and good info in party camps but i guess i was wrong -.-. Anyways if someone really know 15-50 camps or w/e please send it to zenakuyamada@gmail.com.

Anyways i help out also 10-22 you could party where the NM Slippery Sykes is you would see crabs it give around 500-700sp it start getting less sp around 16+ if you have more then 3+ members. A party of 4-5 members at 10+ can get good sp but getting high level the less would give more SP you should be getting around 200-300+sp around 18+ so good sp too about 22 if you have 2 people around getting to 18+