Rogue's 2nd job

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Originally Posted by Genesis-xyx

... they wouldn't be implementing thief because no city state would realistically allow a thieves guild to occur...

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That makes Little Ala Migo the best candidate!

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

I cringe every time I see the word Rogue - Yoshi-P's words echo in my mind "Just think thief!"

Still very disappointed they are determined on this direction.

And gosh I hope it's not going to be a stealth class. I hated rogues in pvp in other games.

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I believe they are going to be a stealth class - during the last live letter they showed another trailer for rogue/ninja and they had the stealth ability.

I'd be devastated if they made my beloved Dancer class the 2nd Rogue Job.

Firstly dual wielding these hefty blades and the battle stance when equipped with them are totally not Dancer like at all.

Secondly the skills such as throwing knives and poisons...also don't strike me as being part of what a Dancer does. You have to remember the base class still plays an important role ...what with a job being only 5 skills.

I'd honestly love Dancer to be either;

From its only base class, a mixture of aoe damage, healing and debuffs/buffs, a hybrid.
Or an extension from Pugilist...the frame work for a dancing combo of 1, 2,3 already exists within the Pugilist framework.

^ My reply is really shoddy tbf, but the base line is ...Dancer is not a poison or ruthless class...its elegant and beautiful.
Skills to make Second Wind Aoe, Mantra as the "divine seal" of the Dancer...

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

I'd be devastated if they made my beloved Dancer class the 2nd Rogue Job.

I'd honestly love Dancer to be either;

From its only base class, a mixture of aoe damage, healing and debuffs/buffs, a hybrid.
Or an extension from Pugilist...the frame work for a dancing combo of 1, 2,3 already exists within the Pugilist framework.

Skills to make Second Wind Aoe, Mantra as the "divine seal" of the Dancer...

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I agree with this, I believe if dancer were to become a job, pugilist is probably the best base class for it, unless they create a class of its own.

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Originally Posted by Eggnook24

I'm thinking revising the class/job system is going to happen by "Specializing" a class, ex. CNJ to WHM to Geomancer, or MRD to WAR to Dark Knight, along those lines.

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That would be even worse than what we have now. So you have to play a completely generic class to 30 to unlock the job you really wanted to play all along, just to be able to unlock the third "evolution" of the job? The whole class\job system needs to be scrapped entirely. It was a terrible idea and it's going to cause nothing but frustration and headache and for what, to say "we're being true to eorzea"? I have news - there has been so much retconning (for the better) that no one cares whether there is still a "Lancer's" guild or they all start calling themselves dragoons. Classes don't have a guild, they have a storyline, and with the way they set up classes there is absolutely no reason to use the base classes, at all, ever.

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

I don't and I've been playing FF games longer than you I can bet that.

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I doubt that, sweetheart. I'm definitely in the older age bracket here, old enough to remember writing my first program in BASIC as a child on a trash-80. I don't see how age affects the validity of my opinions, however. I feel that calling it rogue and making it a stealth-based class just to conform to what "other" mmos do is a mistake. I didn't come back here because I wanted to play WoW. I came back here because I love White Mages and Black Mages and Warriors and Dragoons and everything else that has been a part of Final Fantasy lore for time out of mind. I came back here because Yoshi-P took the game in a better direction. I came back here because the world was brand new, and after a decade in XI it was time to move on to the next generation.

And there's only a couple things that could make me leave again. Straying too far from "Final Fantasy" is one of them.

The problem with this thread is that in a recent interview, Yoshi-P said that he wasn't sure if every job was really going to split into 2 jobs. It is a system that is very much in the air so speculating and looking forward to it may be a little premature.

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Originally Posted by Souljacker

And there's only a couple things that could make me leave again. Straying too far from "Final Fantasy" is one of them.

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You don't get to decide what Final Fantasy is.

Not only that, people were asking for a stealth class. If you read the quote I posted on the previous page, it explains it pretty handsomely.