What are Your Conditions to Commend?

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Originally Posted by Azure_dragon-

Might someone be able to explain the reasoning behind why you won't give a commend to ppl who don't say "Hi" at the begining of a run?

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Pretty much this:

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Lack of courtesy, maybe?

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I don't expect to have chat's, or long ass conversations in a Duty, but saying Hi/Hello and bye/thanks at the end, or w/e are basic manners.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Lack of courtesy, maybe?

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Usually what will end up happening is as a ps3 player maining a healer I will pick up my usb keyboard to say Hi and the group will have already bolted off without me. Usualy ending up in a wipe, So i'd be getting none to being with.

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Originally Posted by Azure_dragon-

Usually what will end up happening is as a ps3 player maining a healer I will pick up my usb keyboard to say Hi and the group will have already bolted off without me. Usualy ending up in a wipe, So i'd be getting none to being with.

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You could macro a "greeting quote".

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Originally Posted by Azure_dragon-

Usually what will end up happening is as a ps3 player maining a healer I will pick up my usb keyboard to say Hi and the group will have already bolted off without me. Usualy ending up in a wipe, So i'd be getting none to being with.

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Is your keyboard a mile away or something?

I'm quite close to 300 Coms right now which is hilarious since i rarely ever Com other people.

Roll need on something in a low dungeon to turn in for seals? You lost my Com. Even if you're the nicest sweetest funniest person The second you hit that button my respect for you is gone.

Are you rude/bossy/impatient? No com

Are you a whiny idiot doing your myth daily and end up getting Ifrit in the Roulette and then throw a hissy fit because the one new person who queued for ifrit is watching the cutscene even though the very fact that it's ifrit means your 20-40 minute roulette run turned into a 3 minute breeze? No com.

If i don't like your name - No com.

Hilarious i know when the time comes to give out the Com (depending on if i had already decided nobody in the group gets me.) I just toss it off at random.

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Originally Posted by Nero

You could macro a "greeting quote".

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Great idea. I'll just do this if i can find the space on my hotbar

If i'm DPS it goes to DPS. Period. Unless they're terribad. Then it goes to the healer that did the most dps.

If I'm tank, it goes to the other tank. If I'm heals, then it goes to the other heals, or the tank.

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Originally Posted by Zunde

I'm quite close to 300 Coms right now which is hilarious since i rarely ever Com other people.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

Saying hi at the beginning of a dungeon is acknowledging their presence. People view those who don't do this to just be using them for their own means with no regard to the team effort. Granted that what most people are doing in df but it is a social etiquette thing.

My coms go to the person with the best situational awareness.

I don't really have a list of what gets a commendation, but rather stuff that makes me not give one: A healer that lets a tank die because he/she is too busy holying, rolling need on gear you don't need so you can turn it in for seals, equipping gear not meant for your job so you can meet ilvl requirements, stuff like that or general douchebaggery is what keeps me from commending people.

I usually give one based of player skill or communication.

If your a tank and you run off at the beginning of the instance before i can Protect or Stoneskin your not getting it. If your a DPS that knows the job well and is actually making an effort to clear the dungeon then ill toss them a commendation. If your a healer and can keep a tank up while hes trying to speed run Brayflox in Duty Roulette i'd probably give you 2 if i could especially if they are in Darklight gear still.

There was a tank i was running with in Duty Roullette i was running as a dps at the time, he was really terrible with holding aggro even though he was level 50, so i gave him some friendly advice on how to keep aggro on large packs of mobs and he took my advice and used it. At the end of the dungeon i threw him a commendation for not being a jackass like most people act when you try to nicely give them advice.

Here's how I give Commendations.

If I tank, I commend the Healer
If I DPS, I commend the other DPS
If I heal, I commend the tank

I go into DF intending to commend the other dd because I appreciate their role in the party, especially if they're really good at their job.

If I notice that the other dd isn't maximizing their dps with buff abilities (heavy thrust w/dragoon is a big one) or trying their best then I'm inclined to commend the tank, because they have the hefty task of leading and good tanks deserve commendations.

I do also commend healers from time to time- they are important and needed, and I love them! I guess it just varies in each individual party. Communication is nice, but I don't really need that in the DF. I watch the way that people are playing their jobs.

I'm on my BLM 95% of the time. Which means the other DPS gets my commendation.
I also have a macro that I use at the start of a dungeon. /p Hello, just in case, please do not give me a commendation, I am over 500 :P

If a DPS stands out...then I'll commend the DPS. Tanking can be rather easy ( I am a tank), healing can be rather difficult but if the Healer is just healing, and no DPS, then a tank or DPS will get it.

If I have two dps that stand out...I randomly choose one.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Just say "hi" but if they say absolutely nothing, they do not get my vote. I require so little to be happy....just give me my "Hello!" dammit. ._.

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you sound a little mentally hilarious, amigo. if i ever open up my own looney bin, you get free admission on the mean time ill feed you with some of this:

Haai, Ola, Salam, Hola, Ciao, Nihao, Konichiwa, Aloha, Hello, Salud, Halito, Guuten takh, Guten Tag, Γειά!, 안녕하십니까, Salibonani, Bonjorn!, Bonjour, Sawubona.

commend me pls

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Originally Posted by Zunde

I'm quite close to 300 Coms right now which is hilarious since i rarely ever Com other people.

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you sicken me

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Originally Posted by Archadius

I don't like when players assign commendations based on class because the DPS always get the short end of the stick. I've played only as a DPS in the DF since commendations were released and I have like... 120 total lol, people just hate on DPS for some reason, especially BLMs. I guess people just think we all sit in the back and do nothing, and all those fireworks are just set off by default :S

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Nothing about hate, just that some people weight keeping enmity of several mobs or keeping the party alive more than dealing damage. Not saying that tanking or healing is difficult, all roles are easy, but DPSing is way easier.

And then there's what I said in my post, commendations help to encourage people to play more tanks and healers.

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Originally Posted by Heavy01Mk2

you sound a little mentally hilarious, amigo. if i ever open up my own looney bin, you get free admission on the mean time ill feed you with some of this:

Haai, Ola, Salam, Hola, Ciao, Nihao, Konichiwa, Aloha, Hello, Salud, Halito, Guuten takh, Guten Tag, Γειά!, 안녕하십니까, Salibonani, Bonjorn!, Bonjour, Sawubona.

commend me pls

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lol, well I sound even crazier in the abridged version of my comment. But really, if I got some fancy languages thrown at me, you'd probably get my vote. ;)

I don't commend people who use annoying macros with sound effects in dungeons.

No matter how friendly someone is, how useful someone is, how well he plays, the second I hear annoying sounds coming from macros (or 'witty' remarks with a skill), no commendation.

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Originally Posted by Mellowlicious

I don't commend people who use annoying macros with sound effects in dungeons.

No matter how friendly someone is, how useful someone is, how well he plays, the second I hear annoying sounds coming from macros (or 'witty' remarks with a skill), no commendation.

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this guy gets it

Lol I will still use macros with sounds anywhere where some don't keep attention. and Hallowed ground with sound works wonders with my WHM friend that he has his share of fun with holy ^^

As for the commendations: I always give them, I go with the feel, or If everyone left too fast, the last one.

I really don't care about them, but I do my duty to distribute it before looting the last pieces.

If we went this far and done our task (no speed runners), everyone contributed well.

OH! Found out to whom I dont give: those who are rushy-rushy, just to get their myth and sol cap.

I've got this DRG with title Meat Shield, so I know he's a tank as well. He pulled those that I didn't.

Fne by me, you'll put more stress to me and healer, perhaps killing faster, but I prefer to enjoy the run, at a decent pace.

What kind of sicken? Are we talking mild stomach ache? or full blown kill me now cramp sickness? I like to know which kind of Toxic i flavor as.

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Originally Posted by Zunde

What kind of sicken? Are we talking mild stomach ache? or full blown kill me now cramp sickness? I like to know which kind of Toxic i flavor as.

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the kind that requires grandma's chicken noodle soup to make aches go away

I don't give comms out much anymore unless someone stands out (in the good way). Good play, good activity, no ninja-afks, etc.

But roll Need on gear when you're rocking i90+ is instant DQ.

I will generally base it off of performance, though I lean towards commending dps roles more. If the entire group was competent I will give my commendation to the dps of the group, unless the tank or healer did/said something that either made me laugh or was impressive. If there's another DRG in the group it goes to them 99% of the time, unless they're performance/attitude was beyond horrid. There are rare instances where a group member starts the dungeon with a...less than stellar performance, but takes advice well and uses it. It's like they are a completely different player by the end. When that happens, my commendation goes to them, regardless of role.

A bowl of chicken noodle soup sounds so good right now my stomach aches in desire just thinking about it.

I can't help my behavior though. Maybe with some strict training i'll be able to fix it.

Maybe i'll write "Always give out a Commendation even if each member of the group has broken your "Do this and you lose my com." Rule that only i follow." A few thousand times.

Ehh.. 17 Coms until 300 Maybe i'll do some Guildhests since even if i don't follow the "Oh look a tank and healer with a pulse COMMEND!" Mentality does not mean i can't abuse it for my own gain.

Matters in the situation, with shitty tanks who lose agro but the healer is able to heal everyone up then it goes to healer, if DPS is good then it goes to them. Its really easy to evaluate someones performance to determine who deserves the commendation.

I mostly do low level roulette, so I have gotten into the habit of checking the search info of everyone and seeing who's actually new and who's just leveling an alt or running roulette (assuming you can't tell just by their gear). I try to give my commendations to the new players first, regardless of role. In Trials and Expert roulette I try to give it to DPS since we don't get as much love. Although, when I'm running as healer, I find myself giving my commendations to the other healer in 8 mans as a sort of "My fellow healer" kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by Leira_Raine

A couple of threads actually made me a bit curious about this question, and I have to wonder how people commend others after a DF run.

For instance, I actually DF rarely (I prefer just grouping with friends or PF), so when I do commend, it's usually toward someone that is:

A) Willing to learn/Take Advice

B) Someone who communicates

C) Someone who is skillful at the job and/or run

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Pretty much the same reasons as you Talia.

Though I see a few people saying Healers who DPS.
For me, that's conditional. While I'm fine with a Healer who wants to do some DPS, I'm not fine with someone dying do to a Healer's negligence. If you can do both, then by all means, do both; but, if you can't do both, just stick to dropping cures and leave the multitasking to the pros.

If I'm healing:

*If the Bard uses Foe Requiem while I'm spamming Holy or spells=Com

*Not that I need it sometimes but if the Bard uses Mage's Ballad=Com

*Bards who sit on full mp and never bother to sing anything even if I'm dpsing with spells or low on mp=no com

*If the Tank holds hate well=Com

*If the Tank actually uses Cover successfully on me=insta-com

If I'm anything other than healer:

If the healer just sits there not doing anything for the majority of the fight and not DPSing when there's cleary a good window to DPS=no com

It depends really. But that's my conditions for commendations.

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Originally Posted by ParanoidHobo

Automatic commendation rejection:
Being a massive d-bag
Healers idling the entire instance while tank sits at 90% or more then complains about how long this is taking or how bored they are
Repeatedly stomped on by every telegraph
Limit Break Guy (usually a tank for some reason, uses LB as soon as it's up regardless of what's going on)
Need rolling things that aren't upgrades (I accept that you can, but I don't respect it)
Non-tank pulling repeatedly
"GO GO GO"
"Please commend"
Random Buttons Guy (example BLM "rotation": Fire 1, Fire 3, Fire 2, Blizzard 2, Blizzard 3, Fire 1, Scathe, ????, ????, ???!!)
Probably more

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This! ^
/10char

I'll commend a tank if he is geared and pulls big groups or new/not very geared but trying his hardest. When it comes to DPS, I'll commend them if they LB at the right times or give guidance to newbie group members. Once in awhile when I don't go as heals I'll commend the healers for putting up with my tanking. Lol. Sometimes I don't commend at all though. That happens when my group mates are all bad or being snarky.

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Originally Posted by Ragecake

I commend tanks who do fast pulls and hold agro.

I commend healers who dps.

I commend DRGs who use Heavy Thrust.

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The above plus BRDs who use Requiem, rather than sitting on a full MP bar the entire run. Even if it's just the healer doing magic damage, still use it.

The DPS lbs when its full; that alone gives auto commend regardless of how they act i hate fighting and killing bosses or large mobs and no one uses the LB :mad:

So when that doesn't happen for healers if they dps and keep people alive which is in most df runs i do they get my vote but if they straight heal and don't debuff afflicted players then nope

then comes the tanks, you gathers those big mobs you take the hits like a tank should then you get my vote.

For me, I usually look for:

-Good attitude
-Works well with the group
-Knows how to play their class/job
-If needing help, will listen to advice without being apprehensive
-If giving help, doesn't come off as snobby or rude

Pretty much, so long as they aren't an ass to the other party members, I'll consider anyone for a commendation. After that, it's whoever had the best attitude throughout.

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Originally Posted by Princess_Rosilee

For me it's mainly who left the biggest impression on me. Or if someone fails a lot and the rest of the party are jerks to them I give them a commendation to make them feel better. It all depends on my mood.

Hiya kuro!

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Hey princess!

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Originally Posted by Jeykama

I don't give comms out much anymore unless someone stands out (in the good way). Good play, good activity, no ninja-afks, etc.

But roll Need on gear when you're rocking i90+ is instant DQ.

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F that. I'm rolling need on every piece I can. Seals aren't useless anymore.

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Originally Posted by Kuroyasha

F that. I'm rolling need on every piece I can. Seals aren't useless anymore.

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Yeah, as it's structured anyone that actually needs the piece will be able to need on whatever it is.
If you want that piece for an alt class or whatever run as that class.

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

Yeah, as it's structured anyone that actually needs the piece will be able to need on whatever it is.
If you want that piece for an alt class or whatever run as that class.

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I want it for the seals too. However, I'm not so douchey as to deny the rest of the party a fair roll on it. In the end, don't care, but just means they don't get a comm from me.

All arbitrary to me, I'll click it wherever the whim goes.

-Healers who DPS
-DPS that can beat me
-DPS that know when to AoE
-DRGs who don't RoT spam (this is one of the most painful things to watch)
-Tanks that know how to effectively mitigate
-BRDs who use Requiem when I'm on BLM :3

I don't really care about the size of pulls. A tank controls the pace and should pull whatever they're comfortable with, but failing to take back agro, and not using defensive cooldowns just puts unneeded stress on your healer and that's really not cool.

I definitely don't commend players if

-Healers just stand there, or heal spam whenever anyone drops below 100% HP (this is one of my biggest pet peeves. Why do you just stand there? How is that fun to you? If your reasoning is that you're tired of running a dungeon/playing, then why don't you make the process faster by DPSing, or take a break from the game?)
-DPS who have absolutely no idea what they're doing
-Tanks that try to pull big while not telling anything to the healer, and/or do not use defensive cooldowns (bonus points if they try the same thing right after the wipe).

Ordered in heirachy. A always gets it over the rest, for example.

A) Friendliness towards the party - This is my biggest one. I hate toxicity in the community, and will commend anyone who is acting friendly towards the party.
This includes helping new players and explaining fights.
I'm friendly in every group I join, I like to see other players acting the same way

B) Excellent demonstrations of skill

C) Those that pull off something truly amazing.
Healer surviving Hellfire in Ifrit Hard and using the LB to res everyone comes to mind.

D) Finding a fellow DRG who actually knows what they're doing.
Frustrates me when 80% of them don't even know what Heavy Thrust is :|