Please SE, no more crafting mat dungeon rewards.

the one I get is whetstones and animal fat.

We did like 10 runs last night in tam hard and only 1 helm dropped and a body piece the rest was items.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

speaking of dungeon drops.. has anyone EVER seen the crafting mats meant to be at the new dungeons?

Like the Vigil lumber.

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I've seen Vigil Lumber several times (but never gotten it, thanks RNG). It's from the last chests right before the final boss.

I've seen that lumber at least 4 times now.

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Originally Posted by Gokuhan

They could make it so each boss has 1 crafting mat and one equip drop.

I will say though that getting these mats strictly from GC seals is NOT a viable option due to the high number of seals required and turning in unwanted equipment being the primary source of seals.

The cost of coke on my server is already pretty high, I can' imagine how bad it would get if they made these mats harder to obtain..

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They should have been added onto gathering nodes for MIN/BTN/FSH to gather and/or reduce the GC seal cost of these items.

A simple solution would be to add a second coffer to the last boss that drops 1-3 crafting mats and remove them from the loot tables of the other boss coffers.

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Originally Posted by Tashigi

Would you like some Filtered Water?

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I'm more of a fan of Animal Fat, thank you.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

I'm more of a fan of Animal Fat, thank you.

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There should be some cooking recipes for Animal Fat. What are we using, low fat cooking spray?!

We need some LARD (animal fat)!

You can't make 3 star food that will put meat on your bones (add vitality) without it! :P

I prefer getting crafting mats over the gear that drops because at least I can sell those. When I turn in junk gear for seals it takes me like 3 pieces of gear to equal 1 craft mat which I can then sell.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings Dungeon Masters,

In case you missed this answer from the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE (don’t worry, the full Q&A is coming soon!), we wanted to let you know that Yoshida said that he’s aware of the desire to see more gear dropping in dungeons and is planning on talking with the team about adjusting this!

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Why not marry the two and have crafting mats drop from dungeons that are used to create these unique vanity gear?

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Why not marry the two and have crafting mats drop from dungeons that are used to create these unique vanity gear?

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That just means you'll never see the crafting mats for the unique vanity gear, and all you'll ever see is the useless Philo crafting mats.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings Dungeon Masters,

In case you missed this answer from the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE (don’t worry, the full Q&A is coming soon!), we wanted to let you know that Yoshida said that he’s aware of the desire to see more gear dropping in dungeons and is planning on talking with the team about adjusting this!

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Nuuuuuuu.....

I still need moar mats! How'd you suppose to continue leveling desynth crafts without it? XD

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I prefer getting crafting mats over the gear that drops because at least I can sell those. When I turn in junk gear for seals it takes me like 3 pieces of gear to equal 1 craft mat which I can then sell.

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I hardly recall Filtered Water, Cooking Sherry, Minium and whetstones being worth selling...

The best solution would be for each boss to drop two chests: One with a crafting mat and one with actual equipment. Everybody's happy.

At least they're supposedly going to be looking into it.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

I hardly recall Filtered Water, Cooking Sherry, Minium and whetstones being worth selling...

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duh... you craft them 1st before they're becomes market-worthy, unless you don't have any sufficient crafting abilities. lol

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I still see plenty of DL gear drop, so I don't see what the complaint is. Besides, it's not like the gear is going to be used for anything more than a brief stepping stone on your way to mythology gear.

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Here's the thing, many people don't give a stuff about DL. They run these instances for the specific armour drops for Glamour purposes and to constantly repeat zones weeks on end to see Cooking Sherry or Minium drop leaves them understandably very frustrated.

The Potions and Elixir are useless, replace them with the mats...

With the new Desynth system, Equipment is more than welcome to drop o/

who cares about desynth, I want mah shiny little body piece for glamour! e_e

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings Dungeon Masters,

In case you missed this answer from the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE (don’t worry, the full Q&A is coming soon!), we wanted to let you know that Yoshida said that he’s aware of the desire to see more gear dropping in dungeons and is planning on talking with the team about adjusting this!

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However, I think the demand for crafting mats also increase very significantly. We need more ways to get them potash and friends.. Gotta get those desynth skills up! Not that I like getting potash or filtered water in place of a robe..

As many have said before two chests for each boss, one with a crafting mat and one with gear pieces makes both sides happy. Now it's just hoping SE realizes that as well...

Funny thing is I still don't know what either of those mats craft and I have them all, my main interest is to craft gear or meld.

If the mats weren't already buyable and extremely affordable from the GC Quartermaster, I'd call shenanigans. Especially since you can turn in any endgame dungeon gear for an obscene number of GC Seals.

But I definitely agree that there should be a higher drop rate for armor. I've actually been trying to run these dungeons in the hopes of getting my hands on the new Tank armor for glamours as well as Monk gear so my retainer can run Field Exploration XIV without me having to run LotA fifty million times.

People always pass the Filtered Waters and Cooking Sherry to me, which suits me just fine - I've used the Waters to make Diluted Vitriol (and then used that to make the Giantsgall weapons) and Coeurl Sautee (stacks of five HQ sell like hotcakes, since they're needed to obtain the first Master Recipes book).

That said, it's undeniably discouraging to be seeing this kind of thing in place of armor drops, particularly on the final boss. I'm glad SE is looking into adjusting this.

I wouldn't mind if SE decided to relegate crafting mats to the "trash" chests, either - I routinely sweep dungeons for leftover chests after the speedrunners have exited. :D

"toon toon toon"
toons everywhere

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...zo-d6rsybs.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Why not marry the two and have crafting mats drop from dungeons that are used to create these unique vanity gear?

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No! Hell no! I've already had enough of crafting being involved in my vanity. 20k for some prisms on my server is ridiculous. I could only imagine what prices would be if all vanity came from crafting.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

I hardly recall Filtered Water, Cooking Sherry, Minium and whetstones being worth selling...

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Check the MB again, you might be surprised.

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Originally Posted by jazo

"toon toon toon"
toons everywhere

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...zo-d6rsybs.jpg

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That's all folks! Toon in next week!

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Originally Posted by Razor

This is an awful mechanic and needs to stop now. How does it make sense that I have run enough new-gen dungeons to fully max out a class with i100 soldiery equipment, but STILL have not completed a single set 5-piece armor set of i70 dungeon drops from these new dungeons. These materials can already be bought from the GC, allowing people to trade in dungeon drops they don't want for seals > crafting mats. Why do you get spammed with them at a rate of 2-3:1 materials to gear when trying to get actual dungeon drops.

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some of us can't afford to to grind out loot just to trade for seals. nor wish to FATE farm. or destroy leve's all day long. some of us enjoy being able to craft more then a few or so potions per week.

i run 3 roulettes each day. the Expert, high level and low level. and trade in any excess gear for seals. and what i can get with seals plus loot drops in dungeons gives enough to craft a nice amount of potions every week. which gets used. without those materials dropping as loot, there would not have enough potions to last through out the week. not everyone enjoys constantly farming for something. performing daily or weekly activities is a much better way to go.

the loot is fine. though i can agree that the newer dungeons should have a lesser drop-rate for the materials. they are new dungeons and people want to get new things. after new dungeons come out again, restore their drop-rates back to normal.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

the loot is fine.

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Lol are you really serious?

I do 3-4 roulette a day, and I still have enough GC seals that I have capped them so many Times That I have nothing else to use them for, if not buying ventures when I run out of them.

Personally, with all the Times I've done runs of HM dungeons looking for a complete set for glamour, the Times I've actually found a piece of gear as a loot, I can count them with my fingers.
And Most of the Times I get a piece of gear to drop, I get outgreeded/needed by people Who trade them for seals.
It's frustrating.
So no, the Loot is not fine as it is now.

Edit: jfk, I have yet to finish a full set from bray/halatali/LCoA

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Originally Posted by jazo

"toon toon toon"
toons everywhere

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...zo-d6rsybs.jpg

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That picture is just awesome :)

Reminds me of ffxi http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31...amatposter.jpg

if it dropped 10 potash, instead of 10 waters I would be happy :p

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Originally Posted by Taban

Reminds me of ffxi http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31...amatposter.jpg

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at least it wasn't a crystal

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Originally Posted by Tashigi

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

The amount of cooking sherry and voidsent blood that I've gotten from these dungeons (from final bosses) is just ludicrous. Let's hope that something is actually done.

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Would you like some Filtered Water?

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No? Here's some crack. I mean Coke.

Granted, that sells decently. I still want gear. Not coke.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings Dungeon Masters,

In case you missed this answer from the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE (don’t worry, the full Q&A is coming soon!), we wanted to let you know that Yoshida said that he’s aware of the desire to see more gear dropping in dungeons and is planning on talking with the team about adjusting this!

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If such is the case, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, give crafters more options to obtain their materials to craft high level items.

It is impossible to build a balanced and thriving economy, when you give DoW/M all the freebies, and DoH must rely on the loots DoW/M gathers, which are only available on the MB for hundreds of K.

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

The amount of cooking sherry and voidsent blood that I've gotten from these dungeons (from final bosses) is just ludicrous. Let's hope that something is actually done.

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Or how about some Hardened Sap or Minium? Had an entire dungeon earlier today where it was one piece of gear, and the rest was all mats.....almost made me cry.....