Novus Stats for Bard?

You can solo them all by yourself (with a healer chocobo). There's just a trick to each one.

The morbol's bad breath can be silenced with blunt arrow.

I totally forgot that it could be silenced, but bad breath can also be avoided.
The issue was when it sort of stun me first so i could not move then preceeded immediately with bad breath
Oh well, lost a map, redid a duty roulette and got a new one

Didn't know about Silence, thanks ^^
And also that Bad Breath is nigh on impossible to avoid since I think he uses a Bind move first every time. At least that has been the case for me on all fights with the morbol.

Yes bind is the move i meant, there is no indication that he will cast it so its sort of instant and then since you cannot move he casts bad breath immediately after.
Back on the subject, any care to share what materia they will be infusing? I am clueless still, haha

I've been doing Crit/Det as my options. Down to the last 3 and already broke 4 of the final 8 >.<

Finished mine. 15 acc, 27 det and 33 crit. Just used up my det tier ivs I bought pre 2.25

That's what I did when all of lvl 4 was going for like 40-60k a piece. I stock up

I'll most likely be going with 40 crit, 20 accuracy, and 15 determination. I wanna keep some of the accuracy cause i'll likely be dropping most of the Auroral gear from the left side for the Amon gear cause the Amon is better with DPS. I'll be keeping the Auroral Tabard and Auroral Sash but the head, hands, pants, and feet will be Anom. This plus all Auroral accessories I find to be a good balance of accuracy and crit rate :)

I just need 2 more Alexandrites to finish my weapon and it looks like I'll end it with 35 crit, 25 det and 15 acc. I only added accuracy because the tier IV crit and det materia is 250-400k on my server. I've spiritbonded 10 sets of armor this weekend and only got 1 tier IV det materia...even took some footage of me trying to get lucky lol. http://youtu.be/HbDUC0GPOO0

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Sacrificing dex to gain accuracy outweighs the benefit of having the extra crit and determination on novus.

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The thing is, other than Turn 9 Golem tanking and last phase, what other situations do you really require more than 500 accuracy or attacking the monster from the front? People with Rosenbogen already have their gear set up to deal without any Accuracy on their bow.

My point with my post is that with additional gear options coming out of Syrcus Tower, there's plenty of Accuracy on the new Amon's set.

Anyway, it's the person's choice to meld what they want on their Novus weapon. The cost, what content they partake in, it's really up to the player and that's the great thing about this weapon. It fits in with what's the person needs, on their setup. We aren't talking about Best in Slot, because if we were, then Novus is already out of the discussion.

I went 44 crit and 31 det then in two days I got my high allagan bow. X_X

My crit is 461 without food. T_T

How does it go materia wise? I have like 65 alexandrites stacked up but still gathering the materias. But my question is how many crit I do you need to succeed to go to II and so on? Is it different if the cap is only up till 31 or 44?

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Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail

How does it go materia wise? I have like 65 alexandrites stacked up but still gathering the materias. But my question is how many crit I do you need to succeed to go to II and so on? Is it different if the cap is only up till 31 or 44?

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Copied from another post, (obviously you won't use Piety, but just saying the material infusions in general and what they cap at)

The way the upgrades go is:

Determination: 7 Tier I, 8 Tier II, 8 Tier III, 8 Tier IV -> caps at 31

Piety: 8 Tier I, 8 Tier II, 8 Tier III, 9 Tier IV -> caps at 33

Spell Seed, Skill Speed, Crit, Accuracy, Parry: 11 Tier I, 11 Tier II, 11 Tier III, 11 Tier IV -> caps at 44

Here I was thinking my budget of 2m would be enough...wts my soul for det materia D:

There are a couple options available to get Tier IVs without dropping a huge amount on just one. Transmutation is one, but it is 5 meaningless/cheap Tier IV per random chance. Another option is if you have specific crafting high enough, spirit bonding lvl 70+ gear has a higher chance and more consistent rate of turning into Tier IV, but again this is random on which you will end up with. At least after you get all those bonded Tier IV you can take and try transmuting them too ~shrugs~ Just pointing out other options I've seen people do.

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Originally Posted by Kitkat

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I completely forgot that transmutation exists XD. Crafting is a no go for me...I have like zero patience for it :x I like the transmutation one though! And I'll just have to deal with it and do what I do best which is killing stuff. Thanks! :3

Question is if 11 tier IV, what are the chances of failure?
I still have a ways to go (only 8 Alexandrite atm) but once i have all of them i am trying to figure out what materia i need as i be clueless.
I have various grades already but would hate to loose IV materia because of failure.
I may end up doing something similar to Lunar so 15 acc, 27 det and 33 crit or something,
Just probably a little more crit and less acc

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Originally Posted by Maero

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This is hard to wager as I've talked to a few who had none fail, while I personally lost 3 total. One at 80% chance of success, 1 at 70% and 1 at 60%. I'm sure there are others who have seen more, but I would say between 1-5 is the average of possible breaks unless totally unlucky with RNG.

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Originally Posted by JustaBard

I went 44 crit and 31 det then in two days I got my high allagan bow. X_X

My crit is 461 without food. T_T

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Well, once you get HA legs and choker. You should get 26 more crit.

Alright, which option seems better for the Bow

30Crit/30Det/15 Acc
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30Crit/25Det/20Acc

Obviously the second option is cheaper in terms of not having to buy more Tier 4's for Det. I have Det up to 25 right now so it's a matter of deciding if it would be better to spend the gil on getting the last 5 tier 4 for DET or if adding +5 points in Acc would be better instead.

I'm happy i won't need any 4's for crit at least...

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Originally Posted by Mergadeth

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I was gonna go down the 15/30/30 route (acc/crit/det) but I found out how expensive that was and I went with 16/33/26. Because if my budget (2mil)

Budget wise, I think you're second option second option might be better you might wanna pump up your crit 3 more times because crit IV starts at 34 and lower down the accuracy a bit.

All in all I think those extra points 5 points in determination/crit won't make or break a dps they are definitely not worth the extra 4 mil just to max it. Det IV materia costs like 450k in my server x.x

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Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail

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Yeah i don't have enough Gil to buy Tier 4's. 1mil is all i got and it's going towards the tier2 and 3 crit because those are expensive enough and all i seem to get from SB is ice and quickarm materia :\

So i'm going with 17Acc/33Crit/25Det which is balanced and i think can still maintain a competitive edge with the other i110 weapons out there. Plus if i go with that it means i don't have to buy any tier 4's!

Hi All, questions for those who cleared T9, do you need 515 Acc in order to not miss a thing during last phase of Nael?
I'm aiming for 6 Acc/44 Crit/25 Det for my Novus, which makes my Acc goes up at 515 with wheathered Choker and deviled Eggs as the food...
Wondering if anyone can suggest otherwise?
Thanks in advance

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Originally Posted by Kilio

Hi All, questions for those who cleared T9, do you need 515 Acc in order to not miss a thing during last phase of Nael?
I'm aiming for 6 Acc/44 Crit/25 Det for my Novus, which makes my Acc goes up at 515 with wheathered Choker and deviled Eggs as the food...
Wondering if anyone can suggest otherwise?
Thanks in advance

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I believe you want 510-515 as a bard, yes. 515 iirc is just slightly over the cap.

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Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant

I believe you want 510-515 as a bard, yes. 515 iirc is just slightly over the cap.

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Yeah it's just left my Novus with a funny numbers lol

Actually i do have a chart and 491 is good for T9
I am only at like 29 Alexandrite atm (only been getting them via the daily Quest) but lots of great info you have all posted so that i may think about

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Originally Posted by Maero

Actually i do have a chart and 491 is good for T9
I am only at like 29 Alexandrite atm (only been getting them via the daily Quest) but lots of great info you have all posted so that i may think about

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One of my static friend actually mentioned that he have missed 1-2 shots on T9 ( most probably during Golem pull ) with 503 Acc, and on final phase our strategy involves in stacking in front of Nael, which makes me wonder what is the safe Acc for this phase. If i skipped Acc on my Novus i will be left with 509 Acc with food lol not sure whether it will be enough

For T9 it's 491acc to not miss from flank and 515 to not miss from front.

As for me, I'm still gathering alexandrite.

I just fail the 10th time in a roll for infusion............only have 2.7k gils under my name now.........

I just finished my Novus. Went 35/20/20 Crit/Det/Acc. So glad it's over!

I am very late to upgrading my Novus, and hope this gets a reply as I am a bit nervous. I am coming up to acquiring 75 Alexandrite and have stocked piled materia. By reading this forum, it seems to me that there are strats used in T9 where you will need the 515 front acc cap, and others were you just need the 491(495?) flank acc cap. I have yet to reach T8, but I currently have 522 acc with my ilvl 98 gear. In my final gear set with Crit/Det novus, it will drop to 486 without food (495 with decent food to reach that flank acc cap, not bis food though) as I plan on ditching skill speed as much as possible.

Here's my quandary: Crit/Det/Acc (44/22/9) novus would get me the base flank acc cap for T9. Is it worth to have that small amount of acc on my novus and just have food prepared for adaptability for different strats? Or am I over thinking this and should just go all out Crit/Det and depend on food for T8-9 to reach/over cap acc?

Thanks for your consideration.

Your only consideration is money.

If Gil is not a concern, having 9 accuracy is pretty damn wasted IMO.

Accuracy should not be an issue right now since ST pieces are pretty much accuracy based, except for Amon's hat.

Personally I will always use food to reach acc cap.

Ok some of you have posted up stats, what about materia used?
That would be of great help for planning ahead
And many thanks in advance if you do post :)

Materia used always goes in order. For example, 44 crit is 11 Crit I materia, then 11 Crit II materia, then 11 Crit III, then 11 Crit IV. That's the bare minimum you will need to get 44 Crit, but the chances of success start to go down, so unless you're extremely lucky, you will need more than that. By the 11th Crit I, you'll have a 60% chance of success. But after that, it's back to 100% for the first Crit II (12th overall). Same when you get to Crit III and IV.

For Determination which can only go up to 31, it's broken down like this: 7 Det I, 8 Det II, 8 Det III, 8 Det IV. The success rate drops more for Det, though, and the last one in each set will have 50% chance of success.

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Originally Posted by Elurra

Materia used always goes in order. For example, 44 crit is 11 Crit I materia, then 11 Crit II materia, then 11 Crit III, then 11 Crit IV. That's the bare minimum you will need to get 44 Crit, but the chances of success start to go down, so unless you're extremely lucky, you will need more than that. By the 11th Crit I, you'll have a 60% chance of success. But after that, it's back to 100% for the first Crit II (12th overall). Same when you get to Crit III and IV.

For Determination which can only go up to 31, it's broken down like this: 7 Det I, 8 Det II, 8 Det III, 8 Det IV. The success rate drops more for Det, though, and the last one in each set will have 50% chance of success.

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Thank you so very much for this info, much appreciated :)

I'm reposting this helpful reply from another thread. I can confirm it is 100% accurate:

"For a 44 max stat (e.g. Spell speed), 6/11 infusions will be 100%.
It's only the last few materia of a tier that have a chance to fail. And it's not even a large chance to fail for the majority of the ones that can fail.
96%, 90%, 82%, 72%, 60% chance of success respectively.

For a 31 max stat, the odds are worse, but still not that bad for the majority of infusions. 100%, 100%, 94% ,88%, 80%, 70%, 60%,50%.

If you don't want to "risk" the last few stat points, again, look to alternative infusions or suck it up and use your wallet."

I'm ideally going 44 Crit and then splitting the remaining infusions between Determination and Accuracy. I'm just about 20ish-22 infusions of Crit in to my novus, and my only real problem is going to be the gil I need for some of my grade 3 and all of my grade 4 Crit materia. I may just start on Det/Acc and leave the remaining crit for last. I may be finished my Novus in November lol.

I really should start my Bard Novus infusion but alas i do not have all Alexandrite yet but now i can focus more on it now that i have my drg Animus.
This thread has been very helpful indeed :)