After 12 Atmas, then what - 1,500 myth x 9?

27 hours of 6 minute brayflox runs!

What I dislike is the way myth rewards are completely unbalanced at the moment.

Longer df dungeons should be rewarded more.
This grind could be done in multiple dungeons. Right now anything but brayflox is a waste of time.
I'm too tired of it to even get my full noct gear and I haven't even gotten to the book phase yet.

Dungeons like dzemael, haukke and amdapor are under used with the lack of rewards they give but when reaching the book state there should be a df buff added for that player that makes completing even the longer dungeons worth it.

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Originally Posted by Seif

What I dislike is the way myth rewards are completely unbalanced at the moment.

Longer df dungeons should be rewarded more.
This grind could be done in multiple dungeons. Right now anything but brayflox is a waste of time.
I'm too tired of it to even get my full noct gear and I haven't even gotten to the book phase yet.

Dungeons like dzemael, haukke and amdapor are under used with the lack of rewards they give but when reaching the book state there should be a df buff added for that player that makes completing even the longer dungeons worth it.

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There will always be one that everyone considers the best. They will run that one ad naseum. No matter what SE does, people will always choose one mission as THE mission, and it will be what people run until they decide it's SE's fault that they hate the game now.

Does that make balancing any less important though?

Max myth from the shortest dungeon?
It's not even that hard to tweak. You have a point to some extent but what I'm looking for is just options for the grind. Right now the balance is too skewed to only one loop so it doesn't just make the other places less than optimal. It makes them next to useless.

Haven't been doing this questline simply because I feel silly grinding 60+ hours of recycled contents and then the quest gets nerfed to oblivion when patch 2.3 hits.

12 Atma, 13500 myths, competing for 900 open world mob spawns, camping 27 specific FATEs, 27 old dungeons. Yay, shiny new weapon after 3 months of grindfest!

SE: Patch 2.3 is here, guys! And we've nerfed the zodiac questline so everyone gets their lv100 in a week!

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Originally Posted by Seif

Does that make balancing any less important though?

Max myth from the shortest dungeon?
It's not even that hard to tweak. You have a point to some extent but what I'm looking for is just options for the grind. Right now the balance is too skewed to only one loop so it doesn't just make the other places less than optimal. It makes them next to useless.

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It's only the shortest because people overgear and run it in a way to make it so. Halatali really isn't that much longer than Brayflox. The only thing that in fact does make it so is the fact after the first boss you have to stop every so often, but otherwise it's really not much slower.

Lost City is longer than the other two, and I do think it should be tweaked a little for it. But either way, there's not a lot SE can really do. Gamers will always try to find the easiest and quickest route to get from A to B. SE can try to make the dungeons equal each other until they're blue in the face, but there always be one that will be used to cheese it to end.

It would be really nice if everyone ran a variety of content, but that's not SE's fault that people don't, it's the community. Look at leveling up. Any individual has the choice to level up with whatever method they please. They're all pretty consistent. But then people found out how to cheese AV and DD, and then leveling up through those two became the popular ways to do it.

Either way, you have the choice to gather myth how you please. You don't have to run Bray HM, you can run Amdapor City, or Halatali HM, or just do roulettes daily and let it build up over time.

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Originally Posted by aivedoir

SE: Patch 2.3 is here, guys! And we've nerfed the zodiac questline so everyone gets their lv100 in a week!

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Well, this is pretty much FFXIV as a whole...

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Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze

Here is how I do it. I have fun completing the various content the game has to offer and am rewarded in different ways but almost always with Myth. When I see I have enough myth I buy another book. Yeah I'm only on book 6 but I am also not burned out.

I might push myself to run 1 or 2 more things if I feel like it to put me over the cost of a book but I don't stress out about it.

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Good post. There is no reason to rush and SR Brayflox over and over.

What do you need that weapon for, anyway lol.

I'm really enjoying doing the books. I'm on my third book now and I work on each book with a friend. That way clearing monsters is fast and doing dungeons is fun. Leves finish extremely fast so the only painful part is the fates wait.

welcome into (MMO)Role Playing Grind

that is what all RPG were if you wanted to complete more than just the main story

Yep.

I've given up on the books, just passively collecting them when I eventually reach enough soldiery; only gotten 3 so far.

I was really excited and happy initially with the Atmas; I liked the fate farming. I understand people can be frustrated because of the RNG of things, but to me it was refreshing. I was out in the world, I was grouping with people, socializing, it was great; even the randomness of it all made it feel that much more rewarding.

The dungeon grind? Doesn't feel rewarding in the least bit. Instead it becomes a monotonous job that ultimately just made me give up faster than any thing having to do with fates. I could do fates for hours on end; 2 dungeons in and I just want to quit the game.

you forgot waiting hours for specific fates to pop and doing dungeons nobody wants to do ;)

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Originally Posted by mpd49

So after I farm for 12 atmas I will need 13,500 myth tomes to get the benefit? That can't possibly be correct can it? Please tell me it's 1,500 for all 9 not just one. Two places I found each said this but that's insane.

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After finishing the 9 books you will be able to enhance your atma weapon to animus, which turns it into a true i100 weapon. This 2.28 patch coming out will allow you to reach the next tier, Novus, which is i110. Further weapon enhancements will come down the line.

Basically, this is an incredibly time consuming process to build a powerful custom weapon, as you will be able to adjust the weapon later on. The final weapon in the line won't be available for a while.

Grinding for the books itself actually didn't take long at all. It's more frustrating trying to finish them because some of the FATEs in there were like.. 8 hours wait lol.

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Originally Posted by mpd49

....? That can't possibly be correct can it? Please tell me it's 1,500 for all 9 not just one. Two places I found each said this but that's insane.

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Don't worry. ^^ IMO only ATMA grinding is unpredictable.
In my experience, if you can clear a book before you have saved 1500myth, you will just happy for the fast book completion.
I have never worried about one single myth in the progress,
I just have worried I have not comlpeted the book when myth is capped.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Don't worry. ^^ IMO only ATMA grinding is unpredictable.
In my experience, if you can clear a book before you have saved 1500myth, you will just happy for the fast book completion.
I have never worried about one single myth in the progress,
I just have worried I have not comlpeted the book when myth is capped.

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Meh, I got my first book and honestly, have no real drive to bother finishing it, even though I have nothing but the dungeons left.

That said, a head's up for those unawares: Don't die during those boss fights! You get screwed out of the credit if you're dead when the boss dies!

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

you forgot waiting hours for specific fates to pop and doing dungeons nobody wants to do ;)

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My most recent book required cutters cry, pharos sirius, and lost city of amdapor. Ya. Every time I get into one of those somebody immediately leaves. It's a real pain getting some of these dungeons done.

Oh well.
People wanted this stuff because they wanted a long-term goal since Relic's were too easy gg to obtain.
Here you go then.
Uncreative 2005 Korean-esque grind fest. Honestly, I rather do the book grind since it's not a RNG of hope you're holding.
At least you know you're going somewhere with it. Won't be doing that since I must first obtain my Atma which I never will.
I'm off the boat for this sadly. Good thing Wave weps. are an alternative and hopefully Ramuh will equal the next thing.