Final Fantasy XIV running on XBOX One via the PS4...

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

As can I. On my PC. ;)

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Tri-monitors, alt-tab, pfft.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

Man you're not lying about this part. The Xbone controller completely destroys every other controller on the market. Its the best controller since the gamecube, IMO.

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I don't know if you've seen the news, but apparently Nintendo is releasing an adapter to use Gamecube controllers on the Wii U. IMO the only issue I had with the GC controler was the C stick. Anyway, thought that was interesting news so I'm wondering if we will start to see them sell these again...

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Originally Posted by Nanaho

And all credibility goes out the window.

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Haters gon hate. Gamecube controller was dope. Clearly you didn't play enough super smash bros.

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

I don't know if you've seen the news, but apparently Nintendo is releasing an adapter to use Gamecube controllers on the Wii U. IMO the only issue I had with the GC controler was the C stick. Anyway, thought that was interesting news so I'm wondering if we will start to see them sell these again...

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I read this yesterday on Kotaku. Still not enough to get me to go in on a Wii U. If they released a new, nintendo developed metroid, then possibly. New Super Smash Bros. and the ability to use a GC controller is close, but the days of inviting a gang of friends over and having a smash bros tourny are behind me, sadly.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

Man you're not lying about this part. The Xbone controller completely destroys every other controller on the market. Its the best controller since the gamecube, IMO.

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I don't particularly care for the Xbox One controller myself. PS4 and 360 controller are superior to me.

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Originally Posted by Kisshu

First, if I recall correctly, FFXI on XBOX 260 doesn't even use the XBOX servers and such for playing and updates, but is handle outside/around the system. This means MS have no control over updates on FFXI.
Secondly, all free-to-play games like DC online or warframe and FFXIV doesn't require it either on PS4(Think this counts for all MMOs on PS4)
One of the reasons for this is that updates would normally have to be checked by Sony's own team before they are uploaded to the system, for a MMO like FFXIV this would delay the update for some time and also quick fixes would take longer and each update would cost money. By doing this outside the system they can avoid these problems.

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The current gold pay wall for MMO's on Microsoft's platform doesn't make the most sense to me, namely because Playstation doesn't require it.With MS moving Netflix, Hulu, and other apps to not require Live Gold was a good move and I had hoped this would apply to MMOs, but sadly it doesn't appear that it will. While most people (I'd assume) who have an XBOX has live, just knowing that you don't have to pay for both services is comforting. I still plan to keep Live, I enjoy it, but not having to have PSN is a solid argument when looking for an MMO to play on a console. So when it comes to friends who ask, should I play ESO on X1 or PS4, I'd say PS4 since PSN isn't required. That's just my opinion, and I Hope to see Microsoft continue to make changes to their policies.

There is something to be said about getting outsold, and with that we've seen a lot of changes at Microsoft, hopefully we'll see them continue. :)

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Originally Posted by Anorex

I would rather see DX11 w/ high res textures before we see another port to a console.

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I'm super excited for DX11, and could support this idea. I think the X1 can do direct X 11, as they are the same company, but I could be wrong there. After which porting it to the X1 might be a good move.

However, I'd support FFXIV being ported to as many systems as possible. Mac, and Wii U come to mind, even though the chances for the Wii U are so crazy low that it wouldn't make any business sense.

Giving players more options is a good thing in my opinion, as long as the business element can be justified. You don't want to spend thousands of hours to port the game to a system and then only sell 20 copies for example.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

I read this yesterday on Kotaku. Still not enough to get me to go in on a Wii U. If they released a new, nintendo developed metroid, then possibly. New Super Smash Bros. and the ability to use a GC controller is close, but the days of inviting a gang of friends over and having a smash bros tourny are behind me, sadly.

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I wouldn't recommend it, the gamepad is great, and I just played games off the gamepad, but I can't support Wii U right now. I'm hoping that Nintendo gets the message loud and clear that we (fans of Nintendo) want something more then what they are giving us. I've bought a lot of Nintendo products over the years and over the last 10 years been sold off of nostalgia more then what they were doing. They are a great software games company, but haven't impressed me in recent years.
Sony and Microsoft have spoken to me and what I'm looking for in a platform, I really hope Nintendo can get themselves together, but we as consumers vote with our dollars, and so I'd say, until the price drops to a very low level, I'll vote by not sending them any money. (for now)

Just the fact that over the last 3 years Nintendo has lost over 1 billion dollars... I don't care who you are, but that's just mind boggling that their leadership still have jobs after that kind of loss. IMO.

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Originally Posted by Anorex

I don't particularly care for the Xbox One controller myself. PS4 and 360 controller are superior to me.

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The PS4 controller is so much better then the PS3, I've really enjoyed the changes they have made.

I went and played some Halo 4 last month with my brother after having played with the X1 controller and was surprised by how uncomfortable the 360 controller felt in my hands. But that's just my personal opinion. :)

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Originally Posted by Aeora

I meant it as a joke :P hence the "Mwahahahahaha" ^-^

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In my defense Mwahahahaha could mean several things, but in context this makes more since. :)

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Originally Posted by Nalien

If Yoshida wants to put ARR on XBone, it'll have to be on its own server. You also cannot have a XBone without Kinect, Kinect is XBone.

Forecast: M$ backpedaling with a chance of lawls.

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Did you not get the recent memos from Microsoft? As in the ones saying the Kinect will no longer be required, and the Xbone will be sold without the Kinect for $100 cheaper

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

This I don't know, because I heard the same thing and seeing on IGN they did it with the Wii U and Super Mario 3D World. Where they showed off the game on the TV and on the Gamepad. I think that there might be some lag, and I haven't tried it for anything but FFXIV, but I think there might be some trouble with a fighting game for example. If I end up getting another game for the PS4 I'll give that a shot as well.

When I press a button it feels instant on the TV for me with XIV, so it's possible that Microsoft did fix the lag in TV, that or the lag was a bug do to it being a new system, and their other updates have only improved the system performance.

I really wish I would have tested this with my Wii U while I still had it, but I traded that in for the PS4. :S

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I'm sure there is a slight delay, but a lot of it has to do with your television as well. Most of the game sites out there use pretty low end TV's/Monitors with terrible refresh rates.

I personally play on PS4 but for this thread I'm going to go down the PC master race road cause what ever the xbox one can do (play game and skype that whole entertainment system) the PC could do already.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I'm sure there is a slight delay, but a lot of it has to do with your television as well. Most of the game sites out there use pretty low end TV's/Monitors with terrible refresh rates.

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I'll see if I can't find out what mine is and post it as well. I know it's a Phillips 47" 1080P TV but I don't have the model number I'll see what I can dig up, it's been a while. ;)

Microsoft released drivers today that will allow XBone controllers to work on PC. Just FYI.

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

On the PC front, I'm looking forward to when the drivers are released for the PC so I can play XIV with the XB1 controller as it is the best one on the market (IMO). That's the only thing I can't do right now with my current setup. :)

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You can do that as of today I believe.. Don't have a link but I saw the headline on facebook.. Credible, I know xD

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Originally Posted by Sacred-Oblivion

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how a "master" race of hunchbacks with carpal tunnel is something to be glorified...

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I say uncertainly but 100% confidently that the majority of people playing PC games do NOT match that description.

Lol...console gaming is no different than PC gaming. A console now a days is just an un-upgradable pc. That being said I buy most games on the PC, but I have consoles as well. It's about the games for me not the device I play them on. Although I will not buy a XB1 because of the anti-piracy bs. And for those that say, "Oh they turned all that off!" Well, all that can be reactivated with a flip of a switch. That and well the whole cross platform stuff ala the OP petition to get it on the XB. Look at Titan Fall. 3 different platforms, 360, XB1, and PC, but yet no cross play at all. To me there is just no excuse now a days for that. To me MS is blocking the advancement of online gaming with the isolationist ideals. That is just my humble opinion.

A relatively small portion of the FFXIV player base would even be in a position to play this game on the X1, and even the total number of players currently actively playing would be relatively small compared the the number of people using Xbox Live. Microsoft won't take notice of the petition because if they thought FFXIV was going to lose them significant sales, they would already have taken a look at their policies when FFXIV was first announced.

Its simply not going to happen. Argue among yourselves all you want, and perhaps even call me defeatist. Do what you will, but the reality is Microsoft won't do anything more to address this purely on a whim to please FFXIV players.

Microsoft can suck it anyway

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Originally Posted by Ryuukishi

Yeah, Microsoft's policy is that in a multiplayer Xbox game you only play with/against other people on Xbox. If Square wanted to, they could set up Xbox-only servers for FF14 like Trion does with Defiance or Bethesda with Elder Scrolls Online.

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There's not point to an MMO if you cannot play with everyone else. If you only have an Xbox1 and you want to play with your friends on PS4 then you're screwed unless Microsoft wises up and lets FFXIV play on SE servers instead of Microsoft servers. I prefer the SE way to the Xbox only club.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

There's not point to an MMO if you cannot play with everyone else. If you only have an Xbox1 and you want to play with your friends on PS4 then you're screwed unless Microsoft wises up and lets FFXIV play on SE servers instead of Microsoft servers. I prefer the SE way to the Xbox only club.

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Yep! This.

I created another thread for support to bring XIV to X1 without having to have MS only FFXIV servers, thus allowing us to all continue to play together. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-possible.-%29

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Originally Posted by Sparky

A relatively small portion of the FFXIV player base would even be in a position to play this game on the X1, and even the total number of players currently actively playing would be relatively small compared the the number of people using Xbox Live. Microsoft won't take notice of the petition because if they thought FFXIV was going to lose them significant sales, they would already have taken a look at their policies when FFXIV was first announced.

Its simply not going to happen. Argue among yourselves all you want, and perhaps even call me defeatist. Do what you will, but the reality is Microsoft won't do anything more to address this purely on a whim to please FFXIV players.

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I'm quoting this, so if this changes, I'll refer back. ;)

There is a considerable amount of input lag when doing this.... I dont even know WHY you are doing this if you already have the console to play it on just fine.....

false, new sales dont have an option to not have the Kinect

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Originally Posted by Atrious

false, new sales dont have an option to not have the Kinect

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What are you talking about? It was announced during E3 that they would be selling the console without the Kinect for $100 cheaper. I would give you a source but google has hundreds of them so have at er.

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Originally Posted by Atrious

false, new sales dont have an option to not have the Kinect

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You must have not seen the news in may and as of June 9th, they sell the X1 for $399 without the Kinnect for those who don't want it.

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Originally Posted by Atrious

There is a considerable amount of input lag when doing this.... I dont even know WHY you are doing this if you already have the console to play it on just fine.....

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I can say that this is not true, at least as I have said before, not true for me. I can not tell any input lag, and even if there was a slight about, it doesn't impact game play in the least. This could be based off my setup, but that's why they need to bring the game to the X1 so users who can't do this, could play on the X1 if they wished.

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Originally Posted by Ryuukishi

Oddly one of the only exceptions to this policy is the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XI which shares the same servers as the PC and PS2 players.

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And Microsoft made absolutely no money on it, and that's why they dug their feet in the sand when it came to this game. You know what else? They were mostly right - mostly. At the beginning it would have been a disaster for them since even the playstation version was delayed so many times. Now? It might gain more in popularity but we're still talking about a western console with a still very asian grindy game. It's just not Microsoft's target audience with their console, and what players DO want to use it can easily do so on a Microsoft Windows PC.

So, I don't see this ever happening tbh, not unless Yoshi pulls another miracle out and somehow surpasses WoW subscribers. Then M$ might give it another look.

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Originally Posted by Erudain

Serious question....why Microsoft doesn't want their Xbox 1 players playing alongside with PC/PS3/PS4 users?
They are afraid/bad publicity from players complaining of having to pay for their xbox live account + FF account (while the others only pay one?) or they fear their console could have performance issues going head to head with players using a PC/PS?

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Ish. They did a study once regarding FPS and the disparity between PC players and console players. The PC players slaughtered the console players every single time, and for good reason. KB+Mouse is superior in every way. There is no argument for that. You can PREFER a controller over a keyboard and mouse and that's your PREFERENCE, but you will still always be stomped in FPS or PvP by someone using a KB+Mouse. This is a fact that their study confirmed.

So this is their reasoning behind that little tidbit, anyway. I'm not saying its particularly relevant to 90% of the content in XIV - but there is still a distinct line between the console crowd and the controller crowd and I can pick out a controller user within a few seconds of watching them move around.

For me, I'd *like* to see it come to xbox, but I'm not going to hold my breath. It's on *a* console and that's probably good enough for the JP playerbase and the percentage of NA playerbase that actually wants to play on a console. The rest can get the same experience from a PC and an xbox 360 controller for Windows. That's what I do when I feel like lying on the couch.

So the options are:

Play the game on PC
Play the game on PS4
Play the game on Xbox One with your PS4 running through it

I don't see the point :/

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

As can I. On my PC. ;)

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I use apps when playing on my ps4 as well :P smart phone :P

As much as I'd love for more people to be brought into the game's community, I think it would be best to not support the Xbone. The Xbone really has nothing going for it. I honestly can't see anything good coming from partnering with Microsoft either.

Still would be nice to play across all 3 platforms and have Skype as well on Xbone with DX12 on the way it could interest me to link my account across all 3 just because I can. M$ would have to change a few policies to allow this to happen and lets face it they've already 180 everything else just to keep in the console wars so why not here as well.

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Originally Posted by Elven

Still would be nice to play across all 3 platforms and have Skype as well on Xbone with DX12 on the way it could interest me to link my account across all 3 just because I can. M$ would have to change a few policies to allow this to happen and lets face it they've already 180 everything else just to keep in the console wars so why not here as well.

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Why support a company that was so willing to betray their customers/fans in the first place? I can't wrap my mind around how people are crawling back to Microsoft right after they were so willing to go as far as to spy on you, not to mention taking away your rights to the games and other content that you purchased. Why? Why would you support Microsoft after this? Why would you support the Xbone?

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Originally Posted by Amused

Why support a company that was so willing to betray their customers/fans in the first place? I can't wrap my mind around how people are crawling back to Microsoft right after they were so willing to go as far as to spy on you, not to mention taking away your rights to the games and other content that you purchased. Why? Why would you support Microsoft after this? Why would you support the Xbone?

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Because, at the end of the day, it does not matter. People will play the consoles they play, and theres nothing you can do about it. I own a PC PS4 and an XBox One, and i have no issues with any of them. They each do things better ine one way or another from the others, and im cool with that. I'm not gonna denounce a product just because of some hiccups, every system has had hiccups and flaws and Shady dealings.

But everyone is spying on you now hell Facebook Google NSA Windows platforms and the list goes on and as for digital rights sadly that is still coming there is no stopping it. It's most unfortunate that M$ jumped the fence too early and now look at the state of gaming. Most people are happy to part with their money to buy digital content. So while PS4 and Xbox sneak Steam like services right under your nose to get you to open your wallet your left wondering who is the good guy. Nobody is the good guy they're just after your money.

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Originally Posted by Amused

As much as I'd love for more people to be brought into the game's community, I think it would be best to not support the Xbone. The Xbone really has nothing going for it. I honestly can't see anything good coming from partnering with Microsoft either.

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I understand your point, but what I really wanted to share here is that, you can run the ps4 to the x1 with XIV and it works. :)

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Originally Posted by Amused

Why support a company that was so willing to betray their customers/fans in the first place?

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The main issue with the X1 was the marketing, they didn't have their message together and show what users would get with their vision. I personally loved the original idea behind the X1, but many others didn't, so Microsoft changed the system approach. While you are entitled to your opinion about how you think they operate, at the end of the day all companies are in business to make money, and that's good thing. That's why they exist in the first place.

I remember people telling me about GPS and cameras in cell phones as it was the end of the world, and that we would get speeding tickets because they could track our speed of the cell phones. As with most people, they don't like change, unless they know there is something great at the end of the road, and that's where Microsoft made their mistake.

The idea of using a pass threw as running on my Xbox. Get your head out of your butt and using another input on your TV. Then it isn't effected at all.

I don't have a current gen Console, but for games out there and up and coming it's a toss up for WiiU and PS4. The only reason I would think about the xone is ... oo wait there isn't paying 499 now 399 for 1 game doesn't cut it.

oo WiiU fun family play with friend at a party games is what I'm looking for here.
PS4, better built system out of the box with games coming out in next few months that I'm looking at getting.