1.18 Patch Notes

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Originally Posted by Nikita

What I am interested in is


Grand Companies

Lists the Grand Companie[SIZE="5"]s[/SIZE] you have joined, your standing within their ranks, and your company seal totals.

CompanieSSSSS?

So we can join more than one? Is this true or old news or what? >_>

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you can only join one, but you can do all the recruitment Quests to see which one you want to join first

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Originally Posted by Jeronas

Gonna be fun with bot groups perma occupying all the slots. I smell Epic Fail.

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Did that happen in XI?

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Originally Posted by Jeronas

Gonna be fun with bot groups perma occupying all the slots. I smell Epic Fail.

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Yeah, that troubles me as well...Hopefully the limit is high enough.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Not yet. Have patience.

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Wanted to get it started before I headed out to hit the trails.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Well looks like there goes Pug's efficiency as a Tank. Tripling recast timers on taunts, ouch but oh well. At least I have an excuse to not tank now :p

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Hopefully they will remove the evade requirement on Simian Thrash. /sigh

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Kind of concerned about this snippit

[dev1118] The behavior of several enemies has been adjusted.

Some monsters that would sense a nearby adventurer, move to investigate, then attack, will now attack immediately upon sensing.

Does that mean efts are going to auto agro now? Thats ultra lame it was so damn cool that you could avoid them if you were crafty enough.

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Monsters like clippers who put their claws up when they sense danger I suppose. Now they will just beat the *$@#& out of you on sight :(

I like the some of the skill changes. AND I always knew Barrage was specifically a cross class skill. Glad they fixed that :)

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Did that happen in XI?

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XI only real "Capped" raids were BCNM's or Dynamis and both were one group only for a set ammount of time, hell broke loose but eventually the community ended up making giant callendars to organize raids.

I highly doubt XIV will be the same, the limit is currently unknown but I can't imagine it's more than the current servers can handle.

Can OP please put spoiler? is so long

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Well looks like there goes Pug's efficiency as a Tank. Tripling recast timers on taunts, ouch but oh well. At least I have an excuse to not tank now :p

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I think the idea is to not have to depend on Taunt to keep hate. Remember that enmity is calculated different now, so your attacks will be generating hate too.

Did they say they removed the AoE toggle? I read the notes but didn't see any mention of it.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Monsters like clippers who put their claws up when they sense danger I suppose. Now they will just beat the *$@#& out of you on sight :(

I like the some of the skill changes. AND I always knew Barrage was specifically a cross class skill. Glad they fixed that :)

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I kinda like this. Adds an element of danger.

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Originally Posted by Sorel

Did they say they removed the AoE toggle? I read the notes but didn't see any mention of it.

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No, they didn't.

In fact, they added the ability to assign it to a different key in the options.

So it hasn't been removed yet.

well now i seen the combat changes , now i gotta try it for final judgment.

The rest was low priority for myself but even if not new info , now that is confirmed , i think a 30min cooldown on instances would had been better since is running on limited resources.

Downloading patch now!

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

As someone who's played GW... the recasts are too bloody long on some of the skill changes.

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they have ruined all melee battle classes, horribly, the game has gone back to an almost ffxi level of AA being what you do all the time. Now you will wait around for long recast timers to basic moves.

Pugilist can only do flurry once every 60 seconds, thanks for ruining cool mechanics, none of those skills was hax enough to be on that much of a timer, their basic function was altering your basic style of play, now, there is one style of play, and it takes 30 - 60 seconds to happen.

Marauder broad swing 30 seconds? really? what happened to being able to do AoE? I guess the whole multiple monsters thing is getting killed as well.

well people said wait and see, and now i can say, EFF A STAMINALESS SYSTEM you guys wanted not to have to wait? WELL NOW YOU WILL WAIT 3-6 TIMES AS LONG TO DO ANYTHING except AA, which the game does for you, and you have no control of

nice changes to otherthings, but battle has become pure fail, wow.... wow

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Originally Posted by DoubleEcho

Downloading patch now!

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Thanks for the heads up.

how to kill a game in one single patch. LOL

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Known Issues
•An issue wherein the game stops at the Now Loading screen shown when exiting an instanced raid.
* In the case that the Now Loading Message is displayed longer than 5 minutes, it is recommended that players preform a forced close of FINAL FANTASY XIV and reboot the client.

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That's what bothers me... almost three goddamn months for this patch and they're releasing it with known, possibly character/data-harming bug.

Apart from that, patch looks decent.

As it stands now considering how many melee abilities are available I don't think the recast timers are to troublesome.

Looking at archer update they pretty much gave a spot on detail of how recast on the shots work so one should be able to easily make a macro for archer shots. I know in XI it was tougher since we never really got an exact number on how many seconds it was and then there was the issue that if you try RAing to fast and couldn't you would have to wait even longer but since the abilities have timers on top of them it'll be easy enough to know when you can fire again.

I can also understand why they couldn't make RA an auto-attack, if you consider an archer has to stand still when attacking it would be a lot harder to implement RA since you would most likely have a situation where you "auto-battle" auto-set RA you move, ra is intererupted, wait 2 seconds RA again, and make sure you are standing still lol. So I can see that people may feel an even less hands on experience with archer. If they did setup the recast properly with range attacks though it should be easy enough to setup a macro that "Fires a shot" -waits- "fires a shot" -waits-, etc.

The play test once it goes live will definitely be interesting, I'm curious as to how the playstyle will change now that we are more reliant on recast timers for abilities rather then stamina.

My body is totally ready for beastmen encampments.

Looks like the first thing I'll be doing is explorinating.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Monsters like clippers who put their claws up when they sense danger I suppose. Now they will just beat the *$@#& out of you on sight :(

I like the some of the skill changes. AND I always knew Barrage was specifically a cross class skill. Glad they fixed that :)

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ehhh why? why not just make monsters with different behaviors instead of taking out cool behavior differences?

Patch ready to be updated 570mb it seems

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Originally Posted by Physic

they have ruined all melee battle classes, horribly, the game has gone back to an almost ffxi level of AA being what you do all the time. Now you will wait around for long recast timers to basic moves.

Pugilist can only do flurry once every 60 seconds, thanks for ruining cool mechanics, none of those skills was hax enough to be on that much of a timer, their basic function was altering your basic style of play, now, there is one style of play, and it takes 30 - 60 seconds to happen.

Marauder broad swing 30 seconds? really? what happened to being able to do AoE? I guess the whole multiple monsters thing is getting killed as well.

well people said wait and see, and now i can say, EFF A STAMINALESS SYSTEM you guys wanted not to have to wait? WELL NOW YOU WILL WAIT 3-6 TIMES AS LONG TO DO ANYTHING except AA, which the game does for you, and you have no control of

nice changes to otherthings, but battle has become pure fail, wow.... wow

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Hah. I knew this was going to happen tho. Look at taunts recast. 20-60 seconds. Your stamina bar would be completely refilled in less than 20 seconds.

Combat---Is---Going---To---Become---SLOW!

File size 587MB. Kinda expected it to be bigger. :D

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Originally Posted by Physic

ehhh why? why not just make monsters with different behaviors instead of taking out cool behavior differences?

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Because.... I DONT KNOW!

You doom sayers are slow today, loosing your edge? few more patches and hopefully we won't hear any more of your constant bitching.

"* Players using "Seek Invite" as their purpose when searching for a party will appear in recruit searches only when the recruit purpose is also set to "Seek Invite." "Purpose: none" recruit searches will not turn up players who have set their searching for party purpose as "Seek Invite.""

YAY! Grind parties ftw!!

Known Issues

* An issue wherein battle regimens cannot be performed on certain enemies within instanced raids.
* An issue wherein the game stops at the Now Loading screen shown when exiting an instanced raid.
* In the case that the Now Loading Message is displayed longer than 5 minutes, it is recommended that players preform a forced close of FINAL FANTASY XIV and reboot the client.


^ Worrisome.

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Originally Posted by Tempestmoon

You doom sayers are slow today, loosing your edge? few more patches and hopefully we won't hear any more of your constant bitching.

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They're slow readers.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

File size 587MB. Kinda expected it to be bigger. :D

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I think a lot of stuff was also put into 1.17 just to prepare.

I'm surprised noone said anything about all the new animations for lancer...

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Originally Posted by Reika

• Players who participate in behests will now have to wait a set amount of time before participating again.
  A behest timer can be viewed on the Timers tab located under Attributes in the main menu.
• The number of enemies that appear during operations has been adjusted.
• Enemy rank will now fluctuate based on the strength of operation participants.

Ｔｈｅｙ　ｕｓｅｄ　ｍｙ　ｓｕｇｇｅｓｔｉｏｎｓ！ＹＥＳＳ！！！

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Only to half - rain on your parade, but they've done this in XI for quite a few things, most notably the Assault system if you apply a level cap everything scales according to level. :P

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Originally Posted by Dubont

"* Players using "Seek Invite" as their purpose when searching for a party will appear in recruit searches only when the recruit purpose is also set to "Seek Invite." "Purpose: none" recruit searches will not turn up players who have set their searching for party purpose as "Seek Invite.""

YAY! Grind parties ftw!!

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pure win, almost there, now with ls commands.

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

Known Issues

* An issue wherein battle regimens cannot be performed on certain enemies within instanced raids.
* An issue wherein the game stops at the Now Loading screen shown when exiting an instanced raid.
* In the case that the Now Loading Message is displayed longer than 5 minutes, it is recommended that players preform a forced close of FINAL FANTASY XIV and reboot the client.


^ Worrisome.

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I posted that a page back, people ignored. Good looking patch, but they're releasing instances with a known bug that could potentially harm player data. After three months to work on it. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.]

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Originally Posted by Firon

I'm surprised noone said anything about all the new animations for lancer...

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Wait until we see them , gladi got a 5 fold atack now .<allright>

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

Known Issues

* An issue wherein battle regimens cannot be performed on certain enemies within instanced raids.
* An issue wherein the game stops at the Now Loading screen shown when exiting an instanced raid.
* In the case that the Now Loading Message is displayed longer than 5 minutes, it is recommended that players preform a forced close of FINAL FANTASY XIV and reboot the client.


^ Worrisome.

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I wouldn't worry about these too much, If they were major issues they would not have released them. It's like taking perscription drugs, they help everyone, but that 1 person in 1 million might get a headache from it.

started the DL not bad from the official patcher (not fast but now super slow). It could be better but I'm heading out so I don't really care.

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Originally Posted by Sorel

Did they say they removed the AoE toggle? I read the notes but didn't see any mention of it.

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Not yet, just for cure and sac spells, further adjustments should remove the toggle and will introduce aoe version of the spells.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Only to half - rain on your parade, but they've done this in XI for quite a few things, most notably the Assault system if you apply a level cap everything scales according to level. :P

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Meh to what XI did, I suggested those 2 long ago and they're getting used. YAY ME!

I quit XI when it sucked, so I dont know all the cool things they had anyways :P

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Originally Posted by Airget

As it stands now considering how many melee abilities are available I don't think the recast timers are to troublesome.

Looking at archer update they pretty much gave a spot on detail of how recast on the shots work so one should be able to easily make a macro for archer shots. I know in XI it was tougher since we never really got an exact number on how many seconds it was and then there was the issue that if you try RAing to fast and couldn't you would have to wait even longer but since the abilities have timers on top of them it'll be easy enough to know when you can fire again.

I can also understand why they couldn't make RA an auto-attack, if you consider an archer has to stand still when attacking it would be a lot harder to implement RA since you would most likely have a situation where you "auto-battle" auto-set RA you move, ra is intererupted, wait 2 seconds RA again, and make sure you are standing still lol. So I can see that people may feel an even less hands on experience with archer. If they did setup the recast properly with range attacks though it should be easy enough to setup a macro that "Fires a shot" -waits- "fires a shot" -waits-, etc.

The play test once it goes live will definitely be interesting, I'm curious as to how the playstyle will change now that we are more reliant on recast timers for abilities rather then stamina.

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Slow combat is going to be a real problem, but if you still get TP in 2-3 hits, and delay on auto attack isn't too atrocious, it should hopefully become a game of frequent and varied WS use, which wouldn't be so bad.

That said, it's all predicated on attack speed being fast enough that you get TP faster than your best WSs cool down. Otherwise it'll be low-level FFXI but more boring.

We'll just have to wait and see.

I do think the recasts on the non-basic attacks should be shorter, regardless.