The "Yoshi needs more sleep" petition! Save him before it's too late!

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Originally Posted by Aldora

I personally think that process of creating an entire set would take 6 months, if you would sum up all the hours the team has put into it. Let's say an entire set of equipment consists of a weapon, head, body, hands, legs and feet. That would 6 pieces of equipment that would need to be designed, planned, modelled, textured and eventually implemented. In average that would take 1 month per item. But, in reality it will not be just 1 member of the dev that will be design, plan, model, texture AND implement the item in question. They would probably have 1 person designing the item, 1 person planning the process, 1 person perform the modelling of the item, 1 person responsible for creating the textures and 1 person for the implementation.

Based on that, you could say that 5 people are working on 1 specific piece of equipment. Divide the 1 months worth of man hours between these 5 people and each individual would have work about 5 days on it. That would sound more resonable to me...

Keep in mind that this is pure speculation, based on my experience in development. (^_^ )

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Also consider that by a "set", they are probably including all textures (canvas, cotton, velvet, wool etc.) as well as the various embellishments. For example, Bronze and Iron sollerets use the same model but have slight differences in embellishments. Such small variations can be seen on all the gear in the game. They might use the same base, but different tiers have small additions.

So a "Set" may include the base plus the hundred-or-so variations.

Considering that, six months doesn't seem unrealistic.

We should chip in and buy him a Lalafell body pillow!

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Originally Posted by BloodLotus

We should chip in and buy him a Lalafell body pillow!

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you mean Rougadyn pillow

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Originally Posted by BloodLotus

We should chip in and buy him a Lalafell body pillow!

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That would just be a pillow, right?

Anyways, I'm a little upset at how every thread like this tends to draw out people that say nothing but, what seems to me to be, mean spirited and unhelpful criticism.

Oh like you're so perfect.

No one ever died from massive amount of coffee and chain smoking... oh wait

His lack of sleep is none of your concern, nor will your petition do jack squat.

Good thing you care so much, though. What would Yoshida do without masses of sheep?

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Originally Posted by Fated

His lack of sleep is none of your concern, nor will your petition do jack squat.

Good thing you care so much, though. What would Yoshida do without masses of sheep?

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Yeah it sucks being a human being, eh?

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Originally Posted by giftforce

Oh like you're so perfect.

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Was this directed at me? lol

I have no response for it regardless, just curious.

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Originally Posted by Fated

His lack of sleep is none of your concern, nor will your petition do jack squat.

Good thing you care so much, though. What would Yoshida do without masses of sheep?

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bahh baah baah bahh bahh

(I only speak sheep, you'll have to translate plz. This phrase along with the previous one is all I know in english.)

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Originally Posted by Fated

His lack of sleep is none of your concern, nor will your petition do jack squat.

Good thing you care so much, though. What would Yoshida do without masses of sheep?

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Kind of funny how overused the term sheep, or worse, "sheeple" has become. It's starting to turn around on itself and become a description of the very people that use it.

I actually am a sheep according to the oriental zodiac, so whatevs :D

baahhhh

Probably isn't sleeping for a couple of good reasons. Might be understaffed and deadlines. If you needed all this work done and you had an ultimate deadline on when all of these changes should be implemented (which is probably a set deadline on when they are porting to PS3) you'd stay up til 2-3am working too. Your career depends on it.

He also had golden week last month. Maybe to calm people down he should promise to take at least 1 day off a month? lol

lets get em an expensive massage & smoke one day.

Agreed, Sleep psychosis (dementia-like insanity caused by exreme sleep deprivation) would not be beneficicial to either the devs, or the community as a whole. From what I understand, exaustion seems to be a regular work-related illness in Japan. Wasn't there a Toyota engineer a few years back who DIED from overwork? On that note, I've stayed awake for four days straight before, it's not fun, you're not running on all cylinders, you're basically a zombie, and nobody likes being around zombies.

So yeah, Yoshi, get some Z's dude. We'll forgive you for being human.

What I'd like to know is just how devastating this level of sleep can be on one's mood =/. I mean at a certain point he's gotta get croutchy and start layin the smack down on people when he doesn't mean to =(.

We've all been there, and we all know trolls and haters only intensify this.

Sleep is healthy. If he can do with 2 hours sleep a day, he is a real soldier first class!

He needs a hot spring break. who agree?

I think SE needs to hire more people. Yoshida is no exception here with his 3h of sleep.
Hope SE is willing to spend more money. The game needs it.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

How in the hell do you know that he's less productive? There are people that feel fine after 2 or 3 hours of sleep. Just because a majority of people need more than that doesn't mean that there aren't people that need less than that.

Honestly the way Seif always acts is a bit lame. Every single post he makes has nothing positive or worth reading. I understand criticism, but every post I've read from him just bleeds cynicism. Your last sentence is a joke, they're are acting more responsibly, they're listening to the players and just about implementing everything they want.

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That's pretty ignorant... it's not about feeling fine... the human body is optimal with a set number of hours of sleep(Roughly 7-9 hours)... that hard to understand? Yoshi isn't getting his full potential... You may be "Fine" with that low amount of sleep but you'll be nowhere near the top of your game(no pun intended) by getting the amount of sleep he does... Some peoples lack of knowledge of the human body is astounding!!! This is the information age yet there's so many ignorant people, it's sad. He's not unique or super human, he's just human like the rest of us >.<

(Not to mention he's pumped full of nicotine and caffeine, those have their own effects!) Defend his actions all you want people, just makes you look like more of a hick haha.

Oh and Just wanted to finish by saying have nothing against Yoshi, just laying down facts to these people who assume everything rather than being knowledgeable and having factual information!!!

This is a nice sentiment, but Yoshi is a grown man, can we not just trust him to take care of himself? I've never gotten the slightest impression from him that he is fishing for pity or sympathy. I realize you have good intentions, and I like and care about Yoshi's well being as much as the next guy, but if I were him I would almost consider this insulting and patronizing in a way.

If he is being locked in-doors everyday and forced to answer each email and spend all night perusing and posting in the forums before he allowed a lick of sleep, then yes we do need to petition his upper management lol. But I feel he is just doing it out of his gamer spirit and overall dedication to XIV. He knew well what he was signing up for and has put every caffeinated ounce of himself into staying true to this great undertaking and commitment, and for this I only respect him!

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Originally Posted by Misha

That's pretty ignorant... it's not about feeling fine... the human body is optimal with a set number of hours of sleep(Roughly 7-9 hours)... that hard to understand? Yoshi isn't getting his full potential... You may be "Fine" with that low amount of sleep but you'll be nowhere near the top of your game(no pun intended) by getting the amount of sleep he does... Some peoples lack of knowledge of the human body is astounding!!! This is the information age yet there's so many ignorant people, it's sad. He's not unique or super human, he's just human like the rest of us >.<

(Not to mention he's pumped full of nicotine and caffeine, those have their own effects!) Defend his actions all you want people, just makes you look like more of a hick haha.

Oh and Just wanted to finish by saying have nothing against Yoshi, just laying down facts to these people who assume everything rather than being knowledgeable and having factual information!!!

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While I don't disagree with you, the findings of studies are hardly factual. Scientists and doctors understand this, but the media that presents the findings to the public (via newscasts, etc.) over-exaggerates the validity of the conclusions. Not to mention most of our modern medical knowledge was only discovered in the past century.

In other words, just because 7-8 hours is suggested does not mean it is necessary.

If we were to put this in terms of formal logic. Let's assume the following: if you get at least 7 hours sleep, you will feel well-rested. If we negate the first part (i.e. if you get less than 7 hours sleep), that does not imply you will not feel well-rested.

I honestly think that Yoshida is trying his best to get everything done as soon as he can, and that a bunch of people forget that its just a game. Yoshida's health is definitely more important, same for everyone else on the team working on FFXIV.

Having had less than 3 and half hours sleep last night , im suprisingly awake atm and it 35-6 hours in total awake less than 3half hours sleep.
But normal i get better sleep just had bad time atm should get normal sleep tonight : )

But anyway back on topic, yeah get some sleep.
Maybe it culture thing anyway i know here people can work crazy hours but maybe it more so there i not really sure , think all are hardwork people all over world just approach thing differently.

I worry people go to far , but it what people are willing to do and if they decide that and like that then i not agaisnt it but needs be a choice.

On another note reguardless, thanks for your dedication to try improve things, that is what come across and we appreaciate it.

2 -3 hours on any kind of regular basis is so insanely bad for you. Yoshi-P, you need more sleep!!

He's a PR guy doing his job. His statements are always transparent attempts to ingratiate himself to disgruntled fans.

Not saying he's a bad guy or anything (I like him, too). But this thread is just embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Cidolphus

He's a PR guy doing his job. His statements are always transparent attempts to ingratiate himself to disgruntled fans.

Not saying he's a bad guy or anything (I like him, too). But this thread is just embarrassing.

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And yet, here you find yourself saying you also like him. :rolleyes:

I do like him :)

But I'm not going to chain myself to a tree until he gets his beauty sleep.

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Originally Posted by Cidolphus

I do like him :)

But I'm not going to chain myself to a tree until he gets his beauty sleep.

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He doesnt go to sleep just because we tell him to, for sure.
I think most only want to show him, that there are still ppl out there who still care more about their rest than a patch, who comes a few days sooner.
Even if they dont get more sleep, it may makes them a bit happy.

There are a lot of ungrateful ppl playing this game. >.> Give a man some respect! Yoshi is doing his best and it's no small undertaking!
Props to you Yoshi!!! :D

(and apologies to those of you who ARE grateful! :))