Atma farming theory

Maybe it's just placebo but I've gotten 4 atmas from following this so far. Using local time. But hey doesn't hurt to try.

This reminds me when we first started discovering moon phases and such in FFXI

I followed the server time theory, and either I've got the worst luck in the history of the world, or this is complete and utter bollocks. An entire hour of grinding in East Shroud from 4 AM to 5 AM server time, and not a single Atma to show for it. I'll switch to grinding North Shroud in an hour for 10 PM local time to see if the local time theory has any merit to it.

max 4 atma in 12 hours?

i got 6 within 12 hours

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Roris

Clearly you don't understand RNG has to be coded in the first place

---

LMAO stop trying to act like you wrote the code for this game because you did not. What you described is NOT RNG at all, it is KILL AT THIS TIME AN GET THIS DROP. And that is not how this game works, idc how many times your coil groups suppossedly predicted the drops, i still dont believe you lol.

And i can tell you what the seed is for the rng, its the pre-made drop list and percentages for each specific drop on the list, that SE put in for the RNG bot to choose from upon each victory. its not rocket science. it doesnt even have anything to do with party composition either, hence the reason people see all the time, stuff drop for jobs that arent even in the pt. This isnt xi where game time & weather made a huge difference. Why you ask? because this is hello kitty island errr ffxiv i mean an everyone cant be asked to think too hard bout stuff.

This reminds me of when we used to buy the hourglass for Dynamis from the ~goblin in the zone matching the zone we were doing that night~ and ~entering on the full moon at midnight~

Might as well strip naked and do the Manderville in your living room to bless your drop rate, it would be equally as effective.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DoubleT

LMAO stop trying to act like you wrote the code for this game because you did not. What you described is NOT RNG at all, it is KILL AT THIS TIME AN GET THIS DROP. And that is not how this game works, idc how many times your coil groups suppossedly predicted the drops, i still dont believe you lol.

And i can tell you what the seed is for the rng, its the pre-made drop list and percentages for each specific drop on the list, that SE put in for the RNG bot to choose from upon each victory. its not rocket science. it doesnt even have anything to do with party composition either, hence the reason people see all the time, stuff drop for jobs that arent even in the pt. This isnt xi where game time & weather made a huge difference. Why you ask? because this is hello kitty island errr ffxiv i mean an everyone cant be asked to think too hard bout stuff.

---

LMAO stop trying to act like RNG coding is that hard to predict. What you described is exactly what happens, you kill stuff at the right hours and the chances are higher because that's how the RNG code works in the game works, I don't care how many times you try to disprove it I still don't believe that you don't believe that I believe.

But seriously more people are using the guide and getting their Atmas with it so that's all that matters in the end, whatever helps everyone bypass this horribly designed quest gate faster.

I followed the JST Theory for 2 atmas and here is the results

As of posting it is 5:48 in JST

Got atma of Goat ( 4-5 ) in 4:31 pm JST in the first fate
Got atma of Bull ( 5-6 ) in 5:42 pm JST ( lost count of fate but started farming since 5:10 pm JST )

So it is either pure luck coincidence or the theory is true in a sense that at least it did increase your bloody chance by a bit since i farmed in other zone before knowing about the atma theory for 2, 3 hours + and don't get one.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Steffie

I followed the JST Theory for 2 atmas and here is the results

As of posting it is 5:48 in JST

Got atma of Goat ( 4-5 ) in 4:31 pm JST in the first fate
Got atma of Bull ( 5-6 ) in 5:42 pm JST ( lost count of fate but started farming since 5:10 pm JST )

So it is either pure luck coincidence or the theory is true in a sense that at least it did increase your bloody chance by a bit since i farmed in other zone before knowing about the atma theory for 2, 3 hours + and don't get one.

---

Just curious... is your local time actually JST or were you converting to JST when you were farming?

can confirm this, got 5 atmas in less than a day

if you sacrifie a lalafell at exactly 3AM oclock you get all 12 atmas.

I'm not sure how well this theory holds up. From my experience, I was just randomly selecting ATMA from the list. The first 6 I got within ~4 hours. The 7th, atma of the damn water bearer, took me over 8 hours over the course of 4 days and 250+ fates. The last 5 I got within about 2-3 hours, with the first 3 of those dropping within 10 minutes of each other, the 4th 20 minutes after the last, and the final one about an hour after the last.

My opinion, is that you may have increased chances for X amount (3-4) per day, then it starts dropping off significantly. That's just the curve that I experienced however so your results may vary; although, it does make some sense.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Syrehn

Just curious... is your local time actually JST or were you converting to JST when you were farming?

---

My local time is PST and i tried farming it according to the local time and it didn't dropped for 45 minute so decided to try farming according to JST and i got my atma on the first time.
Right now not farming since i am studying for a test

Scorpion last night in 2 fates

Fish on the 1st fate, archer didn't drop after 8 fates, will try more again later

This doesnt work. Its just pure RNG. I had been like 8+ hrs each on East, North and Central Shroud and done over 40 FATE's and then I got Atmas.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Razzle

if you sacrifie a lalafell at exactly 3AM oclock you get all 12 atmas.

---

It won't work. The method you said is nothing more then a over simplified, luck dice god summoning.

The correct way is need 9 lalafell. The first 8 need to be a laid feet pointing at the 8 directions ( N, NE, E.......SW, W , NW). The 9th Lalafell is to be place head standing. It has to be done on any 9th Umbral day begining of each month. The problem is you need between 1am to 4am and it need lightingday.... there are other stuff needed like Miqo'te pelts and Elezen organs, etc. Hardest reagent will be heart of a selfless lalafell. I used to sell all, but forced to close shop.

Drop rate is higher if you farm with no pants on.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DarkStar

I've got the worst luck in the history of the world

---

>.> I think I hold that title at this lol I've been grinding the majority of the day, each day, since 2.2. Only 3/12 -.- While a FC member went from 0/12 to all 12 within like 2-3 days.

In my opinion, I still think it works like this:

You have a roll of the 1-100 RNG against a 10% chance of Atma dropping on every FATE you're registered as participating in. (Maybe less if it's not a Gold/Success.)

That is both high enough for people to get all 12 quickly, and low enough for people to have rotten luck and not be done after upwards of 60 hours of it. It's also high enough for people to mistakenly see patterns where there are none.

i dunno about this theory but i strongly suspect that server time or eorzea time do play a roll in slight increases in drop rates for particular zones.

My experience...I got my last 3 atmas last night within an hour. i think i only had trouble with 2 atmas out of the 12 (maiden and lion), which i didn't bother spending time farming i just went to a new zone every 25-35 min till i had those two left. I think i spent a total of 8 hours getting all 12 atmas in a course of 3 days.

3 of the atmas were single fate drops ( teleport in, go nearest fate, get drop)

Can confirm it doesn't work. Don't have a single drop and have done over 250 fates, and I have tried this method.

This theory so far has been working rather spot-on for me with the exception of Central Thanalan (Scales). Anyone else have trouble with it?

Didn't work for me over the past few days. Got some ATMA but all outside the windows and none during.

RNG is RNG

I have to wonder how much SE devs are laughing at people coming up with these ideas.

I also have to wonder how many devs are looking at these and thinking "I'll have to remember that, that just might work on some future project" ...

I call shenanigans on this theory. I spent 7 hours of fate grinding today, following this theory. I've not gotten a single Atma while doing so.

It's not like it's a guaranteed drop chance within the hour long window; RNG still plays a factor but there could be an increased chance during specific time frames (local time). I've had more than a bit of success with this method (also some fails).

I'm more likely to believe that this theory holds some merit based on the fact that FFXIV is interacting with our PC's time settings. If you change your time setting on your machine manually while in the game you will get 90k'd from the server.

I'm a little bit slow with all those timeframe things.
So the server time is GMT+1 yes? And since I'm GMT+2 I'll go check the places 1 hour later compared to server time is that so?

Thanks in advance for the reply.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SirSaber

I'm a little bit slow with all those timeframe things.
So the server time is GMT+1 yes? And since I'm GMT+2 I'll go check the places 1 hour later compared to server time is that so?

Thanks in advance for the reply.

---

The theory is based on using your local time. So for example if you're in PST check during PST (i.e 2 am/pm PST).

I said it worked .... BUT ONLY if you time it with JST. Since it is the jap people who found this theory, so it is their local time ie "JST" instead our our local time, whatever that might be. So for those who called BS on this theory, you could be using your own local time. I tried farming mine for 2 hours using my own local time which is PST and 0 drop and as soon as i did some math and tried it with JST. Two atma within 30 minute at their respective hour.

That or the theory is total BS and i am just having lucky streak. Still could be RNG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Steffie

I said it worked .... BUT ONLY if you time it with JST. Since it is the jap people who found this theory, so it is their local time ie "JST" instead our our local time, whatever that might be. So for those who called BS on this theory, you could be using your own local time. I tried farming mine for 2 hours using my own local time which is PST and 0 drop and as soon as i did some math and tried it with JST. Two atma within 30 minute at their respective hour.

That or the theory is total BS and i am just having lucky streak. Still could be RNG

---

I had more luck using MST (my local time) than trying with JST or server time (5 Atmas almost in a row); this ties in with the speculation that FFXIV monitors your local PC time as mentioned before. The original thread regarding this states to use your local time; conveniently the Japanese servers and their local time are the same.

RNG is still most definitely involved.

I've had a go with it and got nothing during the listed times, if there is a drop rate boost I can't confirm it. I won't say it's debunked or confirmed to not work however. We'd need a lot more data and for people to actually record their results and control testing etc to really see the pattern. (If there is one) I don't think people care enough to do that.

I've gotten most of my Atma first try off of a Taisai.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Syrehn

I had more luck using MST (my local time) than trying with JST or server time (5 Atmas almost in a row); this ties in with the speculation that FFXIV monitors your local PC time as mentioned before. The original thread regarding this states to use your local time; conveniently the Japanese servers and their local time are the same.

RNG is still most definitely involved.

---

Interesting, i will guess i need more do a bit more farming to test it out.

I just got on at 1am drunk and farmed till I was done, not much theory with that.

When I read this I only had 2 Atma to go. Was going to go by server time, but when I checked it was the same as my local time lol.

Anyway, got them both within 15~ minutes of their 'specified' times. Probably pure luck but after mindlessly fating for hours just for 1... I am hopeful that this boost is somewhat true.

It's just an hypothesis, not a theory.

Can SE please look into my character and find out why I've gotten no atmas in 70 hours?

I can confirm that this is atleast not printed into stone. I have gotten 3 ATMAs within 1h which would mean this system is not be all end all. I can also say I have gotten far more than 4 ATMAs in 12h. I think I got 9 of mine within 12h?

I do however think this is alittle too good to be a coincidence. I think there might be something in it!

Well I dunno what's going on with me, I've tried local time and JST time and no luck at all. It's not fair that everyone else is getting atmas whilst I'm farming day after day after day and getting nothing.

I tried this theory out thought it worked and then noticed it doesn't when i got my next atma out side the time slot it was so supposed to be available.