Place your bets! will it all be done by Sept?

To be honest I don't even think SE knows when it will be completed. It seems as if they are lost at sea. Though I place my bet for no, not by September. More like June - September 2012.

what's your "Done" mean?

LOL

ehh... I bet no.

is there anyone on karnak willing to take the bet? i got 1 mil says it will not be in and ready(with fixes) by then. any takers?

Too bad that once some of the other upcoming MMOs are going to hit the ground running while FFXIV is still struggling with three broken limbs.

lol @ 1.20 by the end of September

people sure like to pray

Oh how quickly we forget. Yoshi himself said when he took on the project that he expected the changes to take from 1 to 2 years. We aren't even at the year mark yet.

sept 2012 maybe,

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Oh how quickly we forget. Yoshi himself said when he took on the project that he expected the changes to take from 1 to 2 years. We aren't even at the year mark yet.

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wow, ill probaly be back in 2013 no point in playing pre-beta anymore. other companys are gonna cock block SE in the mean time since there giving all there info away early.

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Originally Posted by indira

sept 2012 maybe,


wow, ill probaly be back in 2013 no point in playing pre-beta anymore. other companys are gonna cock block SE in the mean time since there giving all there info away early.

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not only that there may not be a xiv to come back to in 2013...With all these new big releases coming i would not be entirely surprised if xiv was pulled i really wouldnt. This game is to big to run f2p and i dont see many willing to pay a subscription any time soon. So unless these patches start rolling out en masse, we may have to start taking bets on when the plug will be pulled unfortunately.

no way will that list be done by the time they said.

26th September 11pm UK time.

But what year?

What did you think thought that when Yoshi-p took over everything going to be better? We all know the reason this game was not due to Tanaka. It was due to someone in the higher ups wanting a release as dumb as 2010

I can care less about the stuff we getting i want to know when the core system going to be fix and when we are getting our new maps.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

What did you think thought that when Yoshi-p took over everything going to be better? We all know the reason this game was not due to Tanaka. It was due to someone in the higher ups wanting a release as dumb as 2010

I can care less about the stuff we getting i want to know when the core system going to be fix and when we are getting our new maps.

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It will get fixed once they've learnt and figured out how to fix it or until they've finished completing their mundane tedious code writing to fit their spaghetti of a programming job. Either one of them.

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at the current pace? We'll be lucky to have all that by Dec.

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2011 or 12?

It would help if people actually knew what they said would be done by September before they made these stupid threads.

Go look at Yoshida's list, he never said the job system and quests would be completed in the summer.

As for the rest of it, sure, I could see it happening. It's pretty much all already been said to be coming in 1.18 and/or 1.19, with additional stuff coming in 1.20 that's likely to be after the summer.

Please at least make sure you establish the facts before trying to get a rise out of the unwashed masses.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

It would help if people actually knew what they said would be done by September before they made these stupid threads.

Go look at Yoshida's list, he never said the job system and quests would be completed in the summer.

As for the rest of it, sure, I could see it happening. It's pretty much all already been said to be coming in 1.18 and/or 1.19, with additional stuff coming in 1.20 that's likely to be after the summer.

Please at least make sure you establish the facts before trying to get a rise out of the unwashed masses.

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direct quote from the letter: "This time around, the list contains additions planned for up until summer 2011. You see what I did there with the bold font for emphasis? But anywho, without further ado, feast your eyes on the list in its entirety! (Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!)"

sounds to me like they want that stuff in by summers end.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/11012

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the answer is in the title : january 10 2012 :p

more seriously :

Lets focus on "current task" and what was currently implemented at that time ( 5 may)

- summer event (medium)
- some UI changes ( small)
- Leves Balancing ( medium)
- repair improvement (small)
- auto attack (big)
- enmity revision ( medium)
- action cost revision ( medium)
- dungeon ( big)

i guess its what was planned for 1.18

we had news for everything big/medium beside action revision and summer event

and maybe action revision got postponed along with job introduction

so i would say 1.18 is very near, next week maybe ? :)

for 1.19 i would say october , 1.20 december/January

My two cents

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

direct quote from the letter: "This time around, the list contains additions planned for up until summer 2011. You see what I did there with the bold font for emphasis? But anywho, without further ado, feast your eyes on the list in its entirety! (Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!)"

sounds to me like they want that stuff in by summers end.

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Le sigh.

NEW-
Job system mechanics -NEW-
Development of core mechanics for the job system -NEW-
Cost assessment for job system implementation
-NEW-
Establishment of job specifics -NEW-
Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills -NEW-
Determine the attributes of each job
-NEW-
Creation of job assets -NEW-
Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment -NEW-
Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor

That would be all the stuff they mentioned concerning jobs. The section concerning the jobs themselves only mentions the cost analysis getting done this summer.

If people actually read the thing we wouldn't have half of the confusion and moaning we do on these forums, and posts such as this certainly don't help.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

Le sigh.

NEW-
Job system mechanics -NEW-
Development of core mechanics for the job system -NEW-
Cost assessment for job system implementation
-NEW-
Establishment of job specifics -NEW-
Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills -NEW-
Determine the attributes of each job
-NEW-
Creation of job assets -NEW-
Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment -NEW-
Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor

That would be all the stuff they mentioned concerning jobs. The section concerning the jobs themselves only mentions the cost analysis getting done this summer.

If people actually read the thing we wouldn't have half of the confusion and moaning we do on these forums, and posts such as this certainly don't help.

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Even if its not specifically implimented, its still clear they want to get all of that leg work done by summer....and that does not detur from the REST of the stuff they say they want done by sept.

How about no

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

Even if its not specifically implimented, its still clear they want to get all of that leg work done by summer....and that does not detur from the REST of the stuff they say they want done by sept.

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And considering a lot of the rest of that stuff is coming up in 1.18, I'd say yes, aside from jobs, we'll see that stuff before the end of Summer.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

And considering a lot of the rest of that stuff is coming up in 1.18, I'd say yes, aside from jobs, we'll see that stuff before the end of Summer.

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Like i said in my OP, il be glad if they can prove me wrong, but like most people here, i doubt it, especially at the very slow rate stuffs been coming.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

Like i said in my OP, il be glad if they can prove me wrong, but like most people here, i doubt it, especially at the very slow rate stuffs been coming.

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Judging by the past =/= predicting the future. We already know 1.18 includes a lot more than previous patches, and that the time between patches will improve from 1.18 -> 1.19 (likely due to not including instances etc).

But sure, could go either way, not going to bother getting into a yes/no debate, that's pretty much all people do in these forums.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

Like i said in my OP, il be glad if they can prove me wrong, but like most people here, i doubt it, especially at the very slow rate stuffs been coming.

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From our perspective, it doesn't look like they're really doing much, does it? They're so slow, it seems.

If they're not really doing much, then I guess that makes sense. But if they are actually doing a lot, then perhaps Yoshi needs to invest time into making that clearer for us.

There's a chance, and a small chance at that, that they are working on a lot of those things listed all at the same time. What's taking so long is because of that. So there's still a chance we'll see 90% of the list completed by the end of Sept.

I don't know. It's SE's clever wording again. If you pay attention they barely promise anything substantial but at the same time do so in a way that to some people may seem like a lot of promised content coming so so soon.

Funny enough it's those players that are usually the first in making excuses for SE when only a fraction of that stuff arrives.

Stuff like "Establishment of job specifics -NEW-" might just mean that we get a hypestone post about what to expect in the distant future. So I guess in short yes I think SE will get away with the list but just not in the way many seem to think it's going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Seif

I don't know. It's SE's clever wording again. If you pay attention they barely promise anything substantial but at the same time do so in a way that to some people may seem like a lot of promised content coming so so soon.

Funny enough it's those players that are usually the first in making excuses for SE when only a fraction of that stuff arrives.

Stuff like "Establishment of job specifics -NEW-" might just mean that we get a hypestone post about what to expect in the distant future. So I guess in short yes I think SE will get away with the list but just not in the way many seem to think it's going to happen.

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^^^ this took the words right out of my mouth

XI took 1 year and 6 months from the JP release date to the NA one. thats how much time im going to give 14 b4 i move on.
xiv was released on sept 22 2010. so i guess that gives them 8 months left.

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Originally Posted by slipmac

XI took 1 year and 6 months from the JP release date to the NA one. thats how much time im going to give 14 b4 i move on.
xiv was released on sept 22 2010. so i guess that gives them 8 months left.

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If only we had a stable game and an expansion in that time....but we wont, not even close.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

If only we had a stable game and an expansion in that time....but we wont, not even close.

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i ment playable not expansion..
although they might hold ps3 back untill the 1st expansion

plain and simple NO.
I have pretty much givin up on this game ever measuring up to XI WoW or any of the mmo's that will be coming soon.

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Originally Posted by slipmac

XI took 1 year and 6 months from the JP release date to the NA one. thats how much time im going to give 14 b4 i move on.
xiv was released on sept 22 2010. so i guess that gives them 8 months left.

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in all honesty id give it a year >.< at this rate and the amount of things they need to fix. We're basically playing a F2P FFXIV open beta >.>

not to mention SE charge us for every expansion.

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Originally Posted by slipmac

i ment playable not expansion..
although they might hold ps3 back untill the 1st expansion

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I was just comparing the FFXI after 1.5 years and FFXIV, the fact that they had a very playable game with an expansion by then and 14 not even playable by the first year....that and its incredibly doubtful it will have an expansion anytime soon, next fall/winter at the earliest...if its up that long.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

and 14 not even playable by the first year....

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it's completely playable, I play almost every day. please quit using this 'hair on fire' statement, it's simply not true. XIV may not be up to snuff, but it IS very playable.

with all of the big games this year it will be a miracle if this game is still alive in 2012

November, this game likes to eff me haha. I'm hoping November so I'll be done taking my LSAT but they'll try to make it playable in October and tempt me to fail this semester (being HOPEFUL, haven't had a game tempt me to fail crap since 2005 haha)

At this rate i highly doubt it.