Future of the Scholar (Helios)

If they were to add another fairy I'd say the most appropriate would be a fairy that lowers enemy resistances, perhaps a spell that resets resistance to disease and removes immunity to virus. A spell that lowers elemental resistances. A spell that reduces resistances to other jobs debuffs. Maybe a high end move that removes an enemies immunity (but keeps it highly resistant still), it may not be a stun but it could allow for a stun on stun immune mobs, even if only for a second. And a spell that raises party members resistances to certain effects. Although that might be better on Selene.

Though I highly doubt there'll be a new Scholar pet, I'd like to see one with the ability to increase critical hitrate, maybe doubling it. And MP restoration or TP? A third spell could be some sort of debuff, lowering resistances, like mentioned in the post above, would be quite useful I think.

Helios

Embrace
Single target blaze spikes
AoE enfire
AoE resistance debuff

Numbers subject to change

A 3rd Fey should not be able to do direct DPS, nor should it put Bards out of business.

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

A 3rd Fey should not be able to do direct DPS, nor should it put Bards out of business.

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Hey it wont hurt if a 3rd fey has a direct dps. Honestly tell us why its a bad idea. As for the TP/MP restore. While I don't personally agree with the next fairy having such abilities. I doubt SE would make it non stack-able with bard. (Or even more potent)

1. healing pet
2. support pet
3. debuff pet

makes more sense.
since we already have blind/slow/silence, we could add paralyze and possibly dispel.

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

A 3rd Fey should not be able to do direct DPS, nor should it put Bards out of business.

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I don't think I ever said it should put bards out of business. It should be lower potency, have short durations of 30 sec and a cool down and should not be able to stack with bards abilities. This way when caught in a group w/o a bard you can still gain these effects in some way. But I still believe they should add these skills to another class since it makes bards very highly sought after and no class should have a monopoly on anything that unique and powerful. Adding them to a fairy is a good place since if a bard is present we have selene and eos, no bard we can provide the option of using it.

I love when players delve into mythology. Helios would be a nice addition and a male fairy would be great! As others have said, I think he should focus on debuffs. Eos is already for healing and Selene for support. We have to remember that when the level cap increases, those two fairies will likely receive new abilities as well. The third fairy should fill an entirely different role.

As for the debuffs, I think a determination down ability would be great. We are all about mitigating damage and we could use such an ability to great effect. It would need to be on a fairly long CD considering that they already nerfed Virus to keep that debuff from being cycled constantly. The second ability could provide increased resistance to all party members against status ailments. And the last ability could enhance the potency of a debuff applied to the boss. I'm drawing a blank for the last one. I was going to say an AOE leeches but I have a feeling WHM will get that.

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Originally Posted by Cleftobismal

Hey it wont hurt if a 3rd fey has a direct dps. Honestly tell us why its a bad idea. As for the TP/MP restore. While I don't personally agree with the next fairy having such abilities. I doubt SE would make it non stack-able with bard. (Or even more potent)

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It wont hurt, but seriously what would be the point, if it is strong enough to make any difference, you might as well just go SCH as oppose to SMN as you will have far more utility.
TP/MP restore imo is a no no, bard are already a bit meh to have in a team compared to other ranged dps, this is just taking a string from their bow, especially when you have better support options from a fey.

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Originally Posted by Alu79

I don't think I ever said it should put bards out of business. It should be lower potency, have short durations of 30 sec and a cool down and should not be able to stack with bards abilities. This way when caught in a group w/o a bard you can still gain these effects in some way. But I still believe they should add these skills to another class since it makes bards very highly sought after and no class should have a monopoly on anything that unique and powerful. Adding them to a fairy is a good place since if a bard is present we have selene and eos, no bard we can provide the option of using it.

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I dont think I ever said you either. TP/MP restore should not be given to SCHs, 1st just makes us more OP and more of a monopoly class, other classes need to manage their own resources, and if this is for the benefit of WHMs that pretty ridiculous

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

I dont think I ever said you either. TP/MP restore should not be given to SCHs, 1st just makes us more OP and more of a monopoly class, other classes need to manage their own resources, and if this is for the benefit of WHMs that pretty ridiculous

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I disagree that it would make us "more" op. I don't feel we are OP for one thing and secondly I stand by my opinion on no class having unique abilities. Abilities like the bard songs really should be found on at least one other class and while I don't think we will get new summons (for sch or smn) *if* we do I think a fairy would be a good place to stick them. If you want to bring up other classes managing their resources then SE already disagrees with you since they have added skills to assist in resource management and it has made them a staple of any raid or group. All I am saying is they need to spread them to another class and where better than a class (SCH) that already plays a support role (Eos magic res.+mini group wide divine seal and Selene spell/skill speed+silence) while fulfilling their main role (healing)? Seems like a no brainer to me.

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

It wont hurt, but seriously what would be the point, if it is strong enough to make any difference, you might as well just go SCH as oppose to SMN as you will have far more utility.
TP/MP restore imo is a no no, bard are already a bit meh to have in a team compared to other ranged dps, this is just taking a string from their bow, especially when you have better support options from a fey.

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Okay, you make a great point. I wont help dps and let you guys deal with the extra 5 minutes since we SCH (Or even healers after all) don't make a difference in damage. Because lets face it, all I need to do in runs is just sit there still like my mana bar since intensive healing is not required by us yet. Hey lets remove Cleric Stance, since it wont make a difference and have SE give us a more potent support skill that doesn't invovle TP/MP/DMG!~ :< After all, adding one (And the Only) dmg skill of any kind to the fairy somehow puts us on the same Level Of Summoners (Fester/Enkindle - Earthen Fury - Inferno/Tri-Disaster/Spur/Raging Strike/Quelling Strike/Crimson Cyclone/Land Slide/Contagion/Shock wave/Earthen Ward/Radiant Shield) of "utility". My god your a genius Sanguisio, we almost destroyed the whole system of being a SCH AND a SMN.

lol Sarcasm is the lowest form wit you know.

Healers have cleric stance to allow them to level, that being said why would a healing class have an extra faucet for dps it just doesnt make sense.
Any who, I would have a better chance getting blood from a stone as oppose to getting you to see any sense.
Have fun spreading nonsense :)